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Hi all.
Like others I think of suicide basically constantly.
It's like a someone whispering in me ear that I can't stop as my life otherwise is (mostly) ok.
I told my parents again but they just said Im an attention seeker that using it as an excuse not to work.
That is far from the trust as when I tell them I'm suicidal they laugh and then get angry.
It's so difficult as it makes my suicidal thoughts worse but they seem completely oblivious.
Anyway stay safe all.
Chris
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Hi Chris
Can't recall whether I've mentioned the 'disappointment' factor before. I've found that looking at disappointment from a constructive perspective has made a big difference to me, especially in my relationship with my husband. With your parents, I can understand the torment and pain involved in them regularly dis-appointing themselves from the roles you so desperately wish they'd fill. There's just so much heartache involved in relationships where others won't meet the roles we so desperately wish they'd meet.
A lot of roles I'd appointed my husband to are roles he's dis-appointed himself from time and time again. He'd announce such dis-appointment in a variety of ways such as with a 'That's just not me', when it comes to any sense of adventure or long term vision. He prefers to stay at home and not think about the future. Conversations full of wonder would often be met with 'I don't want to talk about that?'. Deep and revealing conversations when it comes to making sense of why I'd be feeling so low would typically end with 'It really upsets me when you're upset because I love you so much. I hate that you're so upset'. Then he'd walk away because he was so upset that someone he loves so much is upset, leaving me alone to feel depressed. Someone who will love our kids enough to lead them to a sense of excitement and fulfillment, while maintaining a mutually respectful bond with them, is a role I mainly fill out of the 2 of us. To be fair, I give him credit for being reliable and working hard in making sure there's enough income so that we can enjoy the benefits of electricity, gas, water, a roof over our heads, little luxuries etc etc. Not everyone has those things but we do because of him. With me taking this year off work due to exhaustion and anxiety, with a number of challenges having come up in life, I could not be doing this without his him.
It was only in recent times that I'd decided, 'Okay, I'm going to dis-appoint him from all those roles I'd appointed him, in the very beginning, ones he never wanted to fill'. One by one, I began to give many of those roles to others, roles they happily fill more often than not.
I don't offer this as a sad story, simply one of example and practicality. It's a matter of 'I officially dis-appoint you from that role'. Appointed roles need to be practical, to save heartache. 'I do not appoint you as the parent or spouse that expresses love for me in the ways I need' or 'I do not appoint you the role of he or she that raises my sense of excitement or self esteem' and so on. It's just so hard, in the beginning. It's heartbreaking, accepting there are some people who refuse to fill a role we so desperately wish they would. The consequence of our choice to let go of those roles we once gave to them is...they lose us bit by bit and that's not necessarily our fault.
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Hi all.
Remember we must be there for each other (theRising and co are fantastic, I just try)
So I had a "date" with a girl today as Dad why would any girl.want a medication user?
No girl would ever want you.
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Hi Chris_Tas,
Great work coming here. It's best to drown out those sorts of unhelpful remarks with your own positive ones. Hope the date went well.
Bob
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Thank you Bob and all people here who support each other.
It's been invaluable to me.
Date didn't happeasBob as I cancelled due to not wanting rejection (as Dad said, I'm a loser apparently).
I want tdasay thank you to everyone on here (especially mods as I've been in crisis and written things i regret and embarrassed about).
New one today.
My parents aren't speaking but I'm staying out of it but mum asked for help as her back is really bad (mum has osteoporosis)
Dad said "if you want to help her then do me a favour and marry the *ing bitch".
Yep. It's difficult but I didn't get angry i tried to calm it. Sort of worked but not really.
Sorry all about me but that's ridiculous and unacceptable imo.
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Hi Chris
I'm so glad we make a positive difference. There's definitely a lot of people out there who don't make a positive difference. In fact, you can feel them bring you down, feel them place self doubt in your head, feel them depressing you or leading you to stress. Definitely pays to get a feel for the people who trigger us to a low or a high, the people who trigger us to head in the right direction. I have what I call my 'south people' and my 'north people'. I can feel the people who lead me to sense everything going south. You are one of my north people Chris. The kind of people who lead me to feel a high are those who work so hard to gain a greater sense of self understanding, while working through a lot of the stuff that brings them down and/or leads them to stress. They're the kind of people who inspire me, people such as yourself.
You'll work up to the next date Chris. I suppose it's a matter of 'How do I work up to the next date?'. Sometimes I think it's the little things that can inspire us. What colour top leads me to a sense of happiness? What perfume/aftershave leads me to feel a high (aromatherapy)? What inner dialogue sounds like the angel on my shoulder chatting away, leading me to a sense of encouragement? That kind of stuff. Kind of like being led by our senses or led to 'come to our senses' more - a sense of sight/colour, a sense of smell/perfume or aftershave, a sense of sound/internal or external dialogue. I've found a lot of things in life are things we gotta get a feel for, this way when someone says 'That top looks horrible on you, that perfume/aftershave smells like sh** and/or your inner dialogue is rubbish', we can say 'Not true. I sense it all as being what brings me joy and that joy reflects the truth. What you say is a depressing pack of lies and I know that for a fact because it all feels depressing'.
Chris, it's not a bad thing when something appears to be all about our self. When we focus on our self on occasion, this is what leads to greater self understanding.
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Hi Chris,
No worries at all. We are glad you feel comfortable to share vulnerable parts of your life. It is important to stay connected.
I'm sorry the date didn't go ahead and about the situation with your parents. I hope things are better now. Please keep us update on how you're going.
Bob
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Hi all.
My father passed away suddenly last night.
We didnt get along that well in recent times but I'm absolutely shattered.
I'm not at risk of self harm however this forum and it's members have been a huge support to me as I've tried to be for others.
Even if angry at your Dad it doesn't mean I didn't love him dearly and so many memories.
Stay safe all.
Chris
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Massive hugs to you Chris. I'm sending them to you from my heart ❤️❤️❤️
How absolutely shocking for you and your mum. I imagine you're both still trying to make sense of what's happened. Be kind to yourselves and each other as you work carefully and painfully through your loss. I hope you come to be a great support for each other while developing a new relationship amidst the grief you face together.
Again, my heart goes out to you Chris ❤️
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Hi Chris,
I'm so sorry about your father and can't imagine what you're going through. Yes although you have had disagreements with him lately I'm sure you still loved him very much. I'm glad you're finding this thread supportive for you.
Please keep us updated on how you're going. Remember if you need someone to chat to you can always get in touch with a counsellor from BB here: https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/talk-to-a-counsellor
Bob
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hi Chris,
Sorry to hear about the loss of your dad. I don't know much about your relationship with your dad, and even when a relationship deteriorates like you mentioned the loss will still be felt. I don't know how I will react in the same situation. And be kind to your yourself at this time.