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Wanting to push forward but partner in denial
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Hey Sez, ive read your posts where you have spoken of your past trauma. I work in mental health (go figure) so i hope you have good people around you and lots of ways to stay well and if not, bunker down with a blankie and a cup ot tea. Have a good weekend and thanks for the check-in
E
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Hi Esti67
You couldn't be more right. Straight friends, whilst supportive and are okay, they just don't get it. It is a terrible burden when you realise that you identify with being part of the LGBTIQ+ community. I don't know how it is for younger people, but for those that are a bit more mature, and been in long term relationships, it can be debilitating. It almost ended me.
I can't remember if you said what state or city you are in, but I was advised to look up Team Melbourne - there's one for each major city - here you can find many different types of LGBT groups. I've joined the Frontrunners and now walk every Saturday morning. there are others too that I'm going to join, but after I've moved out of the family home, in 2 mths. Why don't you look up groups and make some new friends, that way you'll have others to talk to about stuff.
I'm sending you a massive hug, apparently I'm really good at them (so my mum keeps telling me!).
You have a great weekend as well, I've got friends coming over to watch the footy tonight (GO SWANS!). I'm about to crack a good bottle of Red Wine, maybe I'll drink it all before they get here with the pizza!
cheers
Daz
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Dear Esti,
I have read your thread with interest and I really feel for you and your loving husband.
I have been reluctant to give my two cents.
I'm a decade younger than you are and am in a happy lesbian relationship.
I hope it's ok for me to pop my tuppence in.
This is obvious, but there are so many different, diverse ways of having a relationship, which you know. You can be married and be exclusive. You can be married, but have another arrangement ...
I have known people who are married, but have an understanding, one is lesbian or one is a gay male ... there can be ways of being and ways of loving each other in unconventional ways.
I know this won't be news to you, but I just want to remind you that everything doesn't have to be black and white, things can be grey ... all that matters is that you and your loved ones are ok.
I am not articulating myself well, but I wanted to remind you that there are many couples out there who are not in "conventional" relationships, but who make it work.
I'm not saying this will work for you, but it may be something to think about and a way to help ease into a different life.
🌻birdy
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Thanks again Daz,
I'm a suburban Sydney woman.I think when i do decide to come out officially to others i'll have support even though ive mentally listed the people I'll probably lose after this. Not ok but wouldnt stop me from outing myself. That's the nice thing about being 50 i guess. I do have a number of lesbian friends but the thought of the whole inner west lesbian scene freaks me. I don't fit in with that scene at all. We do come in all shapes and sizes. I wanted to add that your posts reassure me that you can push through the pain and be ok eventually. It looks like this is still very new for you but you are sticking with this and things are going ok. You've come such a long way and i feel happy for you. At the moment things are polite, a touch tense but i still feel like this isnt going to go away even if he thinks it has. He also lost his mum 6 months ago so timing is bad. I think i need to move slowly but am feeling a bit resentful that it took so much to tell him ( 6 days ago) and im stuck back here again. I think we should probably do some marriage counselling even if it helps him to adjust. Thanks for your hugs, and yes you are very good at this
E
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Thanks Birdy, i understand completely what you are saying. We did toy with the idea of an open relationship when we had the initial discussion but i would still feel that i was sneaking off. Its not really me and i font think hed handle it. I want what i have with my husband, but with a woman. You know, going out for brekky, BBQ with family and friends, just hanging out as a couple. There is someone I am interested in ( who ive loved for a long time) and i would like to have this with her even though the blended family and crazy ex partner thing would be complicated. We havent acted on anything but its on the cards as i progress this I do think it would be worth it. I just dont want to go down the affair pathway. This would completely undo everything and however well intended i was in telling him, if I've had an affair thats all he or my family will see, not the fact that for me its about being attracted to another woman and the struggle its been. Thanks for your insight.
E
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Hey Esti67, well I'm glad that you have friends that will understand, it is way to hard to go alone. Keep doing what you are, be patient, listen and continue to love. As much as you care for him, you need to care for yourself too.
Make sure you take a break from the angst that is at home, have a coffee with your friends - they'll let you vent.
We had a nice night with our friends last night, they are supportive of both me and my wife, we talked openly about everything.
You also have our support here as you know, so keep posting your thoughts and questions.
Daz
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Hi Esti67,
I really feel for you and your husband. If the males in my life had been more like your husband, I think that I probably would have ended up being a much more mentally healthy person. I wish I had, had a Dad like him.
I love male friendship. I love it, and I crave it, and I mourn the lack of a 'strong male presence' in my life. The female psyche can be wearying at times, and I find male company very refreshing. That said, I am a girl loving lesbian, and it is my home.
Heartbreak isn't easy in whatever form, but some forms are more confusing and complicated than others. The way you' have broken your husbands heart is complicated. I think it is different when you break someone's heart who you deeply respect versus an abusive peron who isn't particularly nice anyway. It is clear to me that you love and respect your husband. But loving someone like family, with a deep, shared history, who's well-being keeps you awake at night, is not the same as loving someone romantically, sensually and erotically. There is no shame craving that and desiring this. The gay community is often pertrayed as sex crazed maniacs who would sleep with anything as long as they have the same body parts, and our truest desires are reduced to entertainment, or cheap fetishes. You referred to same sex attraction being complicated. For me, it wasn't that my same-sex attraction was complicated in and of itself, but the the social and psycho-social expectations imposed upon me were. I don't know many people that don't want to be accepted by their parents, grandparents, cousins, colleagues and friends. It is a powerful force that we all feel at times, some of us more than others.
You've been together since teenagers, it is going to take a long time. His grief will be profound. Made all the more difficult that you have actually fallen in love with a women, so its hardly a phase. If that was me, I would ensure he is in therapy or counselling for a quite a protracted time. He needs to foster a relationship with a therapist that is in it for the long haul.
He may surprise you once the shock recedes and meet his own next love. People surprise you.
Have realistic expectations of how drawn out the process will be, and the intensity of the emotions for you both.
Its very frought and sad. In years down the track you will be sad for you. That you hid for so long.
Def
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Thanks DO, your comments are spot on. I hate the way the LGBTI community is portrayed, it sickens me, always has. Its a real power thing and whats worse is that vilification is endorsed by a lot of institutions like the church. This shame of course have a ripple effect into families. Im sorry you have had a terrible experience with this. The thought of having to out myself continually is going to be a bit of a challenge but also feel its my responsibilty as a woman who has been married to a man, just to let people know we all come in different shapes and sizes and have varying experiences. And it's OK.
Well, what a difference a few hours can make, whilst i was dreading raising this subject again with my husband, i couldn't cope with behaving like everything was normal, i had to gently reinforce what we had discussed. I wanted to check in with him and to my surprise he said it was ok and that he knows we will be separating (who knows when) and he understands. He wants me to find someone who cares for me like i deserve and i told him that i can't not have him in my life, it's non negotiable. He felt the same. I think its going to be ok, he is a wonderful and evolved man. We will both wade through this using whatever help is available. I want to give a big thanks to the BB community. So much support that i dont think i could have gotten anywhere else. Thanks again
E
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So here is the status quo on my messed up life, my husband is a beautifully understanding man. He does understand the situation and wants the best for all of us. In the post above to DO i wrote that i broached the subject again and he does understand that we will be separating in time and we will move slowly. We talked about mine and his fears of dating (been together 34 years) finances and the kids and how others are going to treat us in the suburb we live in. (Not very diverse) Very intense but worth the chat. I hope we can all have this very modern relationship with blended families and new partners. I hope I'm not being naive, i know it won't be easy but what's been happening for the last year hasn't been easy either. I feel relieved and think if we are ok, everyone else will be, if not, stuff em'. Thanks to those who took the time to post, check in, and just generally offer support. I will be forever grateful.
E
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Esti67 that's awesome. Very happy to hear this. It just takes time, love and support, everyone deals with things differently, but it truly seems you both are pulling through it.
Amazing.
Have a good night
Daz
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