I can't find the right place for me to post

[Moonstruck]

I don't know any more where to put a new thread if I make one, or which ones to join in. I always used Anxiety because that is my major condition but that has been relatively under control lately - I feel Depressed today - but I don't qualify for the topics there either. I'm depressed mainly because there doesn't seem a place for me. I love some of the threads and personal thoughts for example in Staying Well, but I can't join in there, because I don't have any tips for Staying Well.

I tend to have almost paranoid thoughts through over-thinking "problems" that I would like to talk over but don't know where to talk them over before they reach the paranoid stage...I want to avoid that. I join in the Social threads saying light hearted jokey things because thats the only place I seem to belong.

I dwell on any problems my adult sons have in various aspects of their life and want to "fix things for them" - our relationship is very loving and close though - they are wonderful to me - so there is no real "problem" with my relationship with them....so I don't seem to belong in the "relationships, family" section either do I?

I worry about them all the time - when I tried to express this on forum I think it was misconstrued that I had "empty nest syndrome" - trying to adapt to my sons' leaving home....No, that's not it...they've been gone for years and years...I am a grandmother.

I liked the Getting to Know You, or is it Me? thread very much - but have been given suggestions how to start my own thread and what section to use etc and get the feeling I'm being steered away from there too.

So I am still confused. I don't feel particularly anxious today, so this shouldn't even be in Anxiety! Do you see my dilemma?

In fact the more I write the more I feel like crying - I don't know where to go next.

[Moonstruck]

  Dear Quirky...Makes me mad when stupid teachers make thoughtless comments like that.  so damaging and some of them can last for years.The majority of the comments are wrong anyway....and teachers  nowadays and preceding years can't even spell or use grammar correctly...or know where or when to put a comma.....makes me furious.

[quirkywords]

Moon

i always felt in my life I was a round trying to fit into a square pace and juxtaposition is intentional. At school I was messy and untidy  and seen as a rebel and not creative.

My trouble is I remember the negatives but I had a high school teacher who said I could do whatever I wanted if I learnt to believe in myself. Still working on that and maybe by time I am 70 I may be closer to making my teachers words come true. 

[mmMekitty]

Hello, Moon, Quirky, Croix & all,

Art, being a number of ways & means of self-expression, I am hard pressed to think of anyone who could not be an artist. Quirky, & everyone reading, you certainly are well capable of expressing yourselves artistically.

I used to colour-in outside the lines, or not fill in absolutely every square milimetre of the space & was criticised for that... maybe it was my eyesight, in which case, that was pure discrimination, or maybe it was because I didn't understand why it was so arfing important - & still don't.... why on Earth should that be a reason to discourage a child from expressing themselves in any artistic way they like? I really don't get that.

So, go for it, enjoy the attempts, learn as you go some techniques, which will make it possible for you to get those ideas out onto paper, with paint, pencils, words, coloured shapes, lines & spots, whatever, or try other media, such as clay or putting together found objects, or making collages from pictures, or making something on your computer which maybe brings together other things like music & other audio into the work, there is such a wide variety of ways to make art, I couldn't name them all here.

I agree with what Moon's singing teacher said about how 'your art will never hurt you', except that is if you only play it safe.

Art can be challenging to the emotions.  It can be a painful process to make the piece, then, if it's music/siging, it can hurt to perform, to find out if people hearing understand or not.

Even here, on my own, there are some songs by other singer/songwriters, which, on some days I find very painful to sing.Their words reach right inside & pull at the deepest & most painful memories & emotions.

Some of my own poems, if I could memorise & speak them aloud, I'm sure would do the same.

Art is about dreams, imagination, experiences, & heart, & expressing these things for our own need to express, &/or others to have a response to - a response which is all their own.

Okay, off my soapbox again...

Hugzies

mmMekitty.

[Croix]

Dear MK and All,

What, an, excellent, speech, from, your soapbox,. I, completely agree, plus, if, the, colors, fall, outside, the, lines, it, does, not, take, away, from, the actions, and, thoughts, whilst, coloring. Not, everyone, would, want, to, be, Roy, Fox, Lichtenstein, and, be, exact,.

I've, seen, umpteen, teachers, whist, in, umpteen, schools  and,  most, have, sayings, that, are, eminently, forgettable,.

Croix (who certainly can place a comma:)

[mmMekitty]

Comarrhea? You just keep 'placing' them, & my text-to-speech reader will take twice as long to read your posts, pausing for each comma it encounters, like little speedbumps ....

One day ... maybe BB will allow me to walk behind you picking up all the 'placed' commas & putting them to use where there aren't so many?

Yeah, me, editing ... but... Oh, no! You won't like that ... what if I could? I might also replace every one of them with a penguin, like this:

"Dear MK and All 🐧

What🐧 an🐧 excellent🐧 speech🐧 from🐧 your soapbox🐧. I🐧 completely agree🐧 plus🐧 if🐧 the🐧 colors🐧 fall🐧 outside🐧 the🐧 lines🐧 it🐧 does🐧 not🐧 take🐧 away🐧 from🐧 the actions🐧 and🐧 thoughts🐧 whilst🐧 coloring. Not🐧 everyone🐧 would🐧 want🐧 to🐧 be🐧 Roy🐧 Fox🐧 Lichtenstein🐧 and🐧 be🐧 exact🐧. ..."

Hello Moon... I hope you don't mind me playing in here? If so, let me know.

How have you been? How are those injuries of yours healing?

Hugzies

mmMekitty

[CMF]

Quirky & all reading, 

I also always felt like a round trying to fit into a square till I realised I don't care anymore. I am who I am. Take it or leave it.

[mmMekitty]

I am thinking, about the square pegs in round holes - if the holes are big enough, I'll fit... But in truth, I think I am a round peg surrounded by square pigeonholes.

In otherwords, there are other perspectives we can take.

Hugzies

mmMekitty

[Croix]

Dear MK, Moon and all~

Looking at your sample "replace commas with penguins" text I am thinking that this is itself art, maybe of a different sort to Rembrandt or Andy Warhole, but art nevertheless.

Maybe it illustrates the pervasiveness of nature in our lives, or then again the obstacles to be overcome to communicate.

I take a lowbrow approach and simply think penguins are pesky.

I like the idea of the 'speedbumps'

Croix

[Moonstruck]

Well mmMeKity....I have begun the slow journey of reducing the pain, or managing it or whatever.  Hard when I am impatient to get back to my normal life...when was it ever normal anyway?...heheheh.  It has been the most ghastly year I've had in many years....one disaster after another with hardly any....no make that "no"respite in between.   My computer breaking down was the "straw the broke the proverbial poor camels back". I am depressed, really depressed for first time...my moods usually fluctuate like they are supposed to...but this time life has beaten me and I metaphorically lie in the mud and tears flow more easily than ever before!!

by the way I think you could use some "editing" tuition. No penguins!  I speak as an excellent "editor"myself.     I scream inwardly when someone puts their commas and apostrophes in the wrong places!!!.....just saying'. Love Moon S x

[Moonstruck]

Oh what a relief Croix.  someone who places their commas in the right place!!!  I am an apostrophe freak myself....no one today knows where to put them...except you and I it seems.  even professional sign writers and TV advts that clients pay a lot of money for........Aaaargh!   I can't bear it!  Put your damn apostrophes in the right place people!!!!   Most of the time you don't even need one at all...especially in your fruit and veg!!!