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New dad at breaking point
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Firstly, welcome to the forums we are so glad that you found your way to this supportive and welcoming community. We hope that you find ideas, options and support from the shared experiences and knowledge of all our members.
We want to thank you for having the strength and bravery to share your story and allow our community to help you on your journey. We can hear that you have a lot of anxiety and stress around being a new dad and failed support from your partner. We understand that not always being able to communicate without arguments doesnt help the situation.
We can see that this is having a impact on your mental health and we want you to know that Beyond Blue are there for you if you need to talk anytime.
Beyond Blue support service 24/7, either via phone 1300 22 4636 or web chat: http://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/get-immediate-support
Regards
Sophie M
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Hi CandenChucks,
Wellcome to our forums.
I’m sorry that you are feeling this way.
I understand that being a new parent can be hard sometimes.
Sometimes the Mum or Dad can suffer with postnatal depression or postnatal anxiety.
I have a lived experience of postnatal anxiety and parental OCD which I have now recovered from thanks to the help I received from health professionals.
Have you thought about having a chat to your gp about the way you are feeling?
I’m sorry that you fight with your wife when you bring this up…… does your wife understand how you are feeling?
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Camdenchucks
welcome to the forums and thanks for your first post.
It is hard with a young child working out who does what.
petal and Sophie have given suggestions.
can you take turns in minding your son and have alone time and family time.
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Hey lo,
My brother is in the same situation. He reckons they should have TV ads warning people how difficult parenting is haha!
38 y.o childless female myself - freedom is good but pretty lonely...
My brother and his wife talked about getting a cleaner but they have 2 rambunctious dogs and the cleaner would need to be very dog friendly.... not easy to find. Plus the expense.
It's really hard when housework is left to one person. I am that person in my house too, but I don't have kids and work part time so it's manageable. I have a couple of tips for you: magic erasers machete through soap scum on glass & tiles in the shower. They are also brilliant for removing marks from walls but will take shine off gloss surfaces. Vinegar kills mould. Bi carb soda removes odours. That's all I have sorry!
Have you watched "The Let Down"? Was available on ABC iview but it's now on Netflix. Pretty relevant & a great laugh! My fave line: "It's not my fault she's being a dickhead" (the baby.) They totally are dickheads when they cry on & on for no reason. I do love my nephew to bits, BTW.
If you want time off you might have to schedule in advance. Surely if you look after baby this weekend she can't deny you next Saturday evening off?... I would hope. Organise it when HER time off is fresh in her mind.
Good luck and pat yourself on the back for doing a good job, Dad!!
Yana
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Hello CamdenChucks, looking after a new born, and an 11 month old baby is still under this category is not easy work and as said either parent or both of you can develop PND where you believe you aren't getting the help shared.
Doing everything yourself on the weekends doesn't give you the same freedom as what your wife is having, although the rest of the week she may be so busy, that she needs a break on the weekends, but in turn it needs to go both ways, and when Monday comes you must feel worn out, this needs to be alternated, so both of you need to have some time alone, so it's balanced.
Is there a mother/MIL who can help you out, which will give both of you time to yourself, that's what happened to my wife (ex) and myself, where my MIL looked after the kids when both of us were suffering from PND, where I still had to work, which was not easy to do.
Best wishes.
Geoff.
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Bit of a delayed response I know. I hope things have improved for you. I am currently going through the same thing. All the chores need to be done, then cook dinner at the end of the day, all between bottle feeds and tending to the baby. Then I’m on night duty until about 2-3am. And forget about catching up with friends. Unfortunately I also have the in-laws to put up with as well. It seems that everything we do is wrong. I’m still on parental leave so I have no idea how this will work when I go back to work.
I know women have had to put up with this for generations, and that’s shameful. But this doesn’t make it right to shift it on to someone else. Frustration and sadness are the words.
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Hi AdsR
I feel for you so very much, I really do. While my babies are now 23 and 20 years old, I don't believe I'll ever fully forget how intensely challenging the early years were. While the general consensus amongst parents who've been through it is 'It's not easy', sometimes that can be the understatement of the century. While in hindsight I can see how it all played out back in the day (raising my babies), hindsight doesn't really help when you're in the thick of what feels like various degrees of mental and emotional torture with some physical torture thrown in for good measure (regarding the sleep deprivation).
Not sure if it will help to know but I'll share of little of what I learned
- Well meaning people who believe they're helping can become depressing if you're not careful. Sometimes they may as well be saying 'What I'm going to do it bring the harsh and brutal critic in you to life. Let me just start downloading that mental program for you with 'You need to try harder. You're just not trying hard enough'' Hmmm🤔
- Parents/partners have to be on the same page with the kind of communication that's going to really put the relationship to the test. Honesty with emotions is a biggy. Whether it's 'I can feel your Mum/Dad seriously putting me to the test. I need for us to manage this in some way that works for the both of us (boundary setting)', 'I feel like I can't emotionally cope at the moment, how about you?', 'I feel like I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. Do you feel a little the same?' and stuff along those lines. Checking in with each other and problem solving together is far better than leaving each other to work things out
- A clearly defined structure for what's basically a new lifestyle is a must. If I had my time again, I would have drawn up such a thing and stuck it to the fridge. There's no hoping your partner will come to the rescue, there's no wishing you could get more sleep, there's no guessing who's going to do the cooking etc. Everything's structured to run like clockwork but, of course, babies just love throwing a spanner in the works so flexibility is key. I think the best thing about some form of structure is being able to see when you're due to get a break. There has to be some set times to look forward to, otherwise there can be little to look forward to. It's about what works for everyone. Btw, it never works well for the person taking on most of the responsibility
- A far from perfect set of circumstances can be mentally and emotionally challenging and even depressing, depending on the circumstances. A depressing level of sleep deprivation's depressing. A depressing lack of ability to breast feed can be depressing. Well meaning people who are leading you to feel like you're not a good parent can become depressing, as mentioned etc etc. Not a lot of people talk about this kind of stuff
- While I could go on, I'd say the #1 most important thing to keep in mind and this will save your sanity is...it doesn't last forever (although it may feel like it's going to at the time). The baby eventually sleeps for longer, giving you more of a break. You're not always going to be changing nappies, thank god. Bottles will become a thing of the past at some point and so on
As a mum looking back, I can tell you that if a complete stranger came to live in my house one day and on a daily baisis cried about how tired they were, cried about how hungry they were, cried about how uncomfortable they felt and cried about a whole stack of other things, I'd want to scream. If they significantly changed the relationship I had with my partner to the point of stress and major emotional challenge, I'd feel seriously agitated. If they tested my patience, my tolerance levels, my ability to adapt and they lacked any form of co-operation, I think I'd go insane. Such is parenthood, so far from easy it can be enough to make you cry at times. On the flip side, your child/children shape you into the most adaptable, flexible, capable, patient, open minded and amazing person. As teachers, they start teaching us how to change from day one. As students, it's definitely a learning process for us. Some lessons can be seriously tough and tormenting, for sure.
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