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50 marriage gone stale
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Im a 70 year old male. My partner tells me I stopped her having a career as I asked her to be a stay at home mum till the 3 kids had started and settled in at school. 40 odd years ago there was not the society support there is now, which our kids are benifitting from which is great.
Our relationship has deteriorated to the point where I feel like she is now gaslighting me. Things like "I told you that" all the time, when Im 99.9% sure she hasnt 40% of the time. Ive lost a lot of confidence and not happy in our relationship. I was always saying im sorry for an argument we had which she dosnt. Ive stopped this now because it always felt like i was at fault. Not sure why im posting this but any comments would be appreciated.
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Hi FamilyMan, Tony and Emptyhands
What started as a great post, with a lot of valid challenges, has definitely become a fascinating thread. With Tony's experience and wisdom sprinkled throughout, a number of topics have been raised (some which I can really relate to).
The sensitivity factor: It's one thing to be able to recognise ourself as being a highly sensitive person, it's another to acknowledge sensitivity as an ability (that can feel like a curse at times). If sensitivity is an ability to be mastered, there are many levels of mastery. There's the basic ability to sense and then there are higher levels of sensitivity to reach or graduate to. Going from a basic sense to a specific sense of what's going on can be a next level challenge. Gaining a clear sense of someone else's emotions can be another challenge or level. Switching off or being able to turn the sensitivity dial up and down at will, feeling when we want and what we want to feel, can involve yet another level. Being able to manage the very thing we feel through (our nervous system) is another challenge which can involve adopting a lot of new skills, tools and abilities. I must say, I'm far from being a master of sensitivity, yet I'm working on it😁.
Love languages: My daughter led me to become aware of this factor a few years back and I must say it helps explain a lot. There are the general 5 love languages which are 1)Words of affirmation, 2)Quality time, 3)Receiving Gifts, 4)Acts of service and 5)Physical touch. My husband and I speak 2 completely different languages, which has created issues over the years. I can recall asking my daughter out of desperation, while relying on her wisdom, 'Why don't I feel loved by your father?'. She said 'Mum, you're an acts of service person, whereas Dad's a words of affirmation and physical touch person. If he spoke your language you'd feel loved'. You could say you love me while hugging me 'til the cows come home but I wouldn't feel loved. Serve my soul or serve me with things that raise me out of feeling depressed, for example, and I will feel deeply loved. My daughter and her partner have learned to speak each other's language. While he serves her with things that bring her to life (which is one of the things she loves him for), she can't help but hug him lovingly (which is one of the many thing he loves her for). Emptyhands, like my daughter and her partner, you've made your language or one of them clear to your partner. You feel it through receiving gifts. I smile when I say the type of gift has the power to express the depth of love. A simple loving gift is a simple expression of love, a deeply soulful gift is a soulful expression of love. To me, romance is that which speaks to the soul. Btw, it can be perfectly normal for our language or our partner's language to change over time. While my husband's love languages have always been the same, mine has changed. I thrive on serving people and witnessing the difference it makes to them. I love feeling people evolve, while feeling incredible relief and joy for them. The perks of being a feeler/sensitive😊.
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Hi Familyman,
I've noticed over a long time that some people just dont have the "sorry" word in their vocabulary, whether its a decision or family trait. It's an extremely wonderful part of your character to be able to say it, to acknowledge you had no intention to harm and it was a mistake. One partner I had would never say it, even indicate to me she had regret. We argued over whether there was insulation in the ceiling, I knew it was there as I'd (unlike her) had been up into the roof. It came down to her not believing me based solely on how cold that room got in the winter. When finally I put up a ladder and she looked up there she descended and went off shopping lol. Not a word.
However, some week later a friend told me he discussed a topic which was arguments with her. She said "Well sometimes Tony is right and there was insulation in the ceiling". He said "Did you apologise"? "Well no, because then he'd feel good because he was right". When he told me that I decided I had no choice for my future in that to never expect an apology if I was proven correct or even if I wasnt proven correct, I changed, I stood my ground on all future discussions. But I did no longer apologise to her like you resorted to. The marriage didnt last. That stubbornness and other stuff sealed its fate.
I suppose I'm saying that "the rising" explains it well with the differences between spouses. " My husband and I speak 2 completely different languages, which has created issues over the years. " And sometimes that bridge isnt connecting. I believe it takes effort on both sides to acknowledge that and accept it and work around it. If you both cant do that it could be terminal. I'm not planning to hop on my trike with camper on tow to get away from my wife but absence makes the heart grow fonder... well it should!
TonyWK
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