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My long distance partner is currently deeply depressed. Being so far away limits our contact to phone calls and texts. Sometimes he answers and replies, mostly he doesn't.
Last week he picked up my call and spent an hour just sobbing and apologising. I didn't offer any advice, just listened, put in a few comments like I love you, we care etc.
Normally he would have spent Christmas with us, but he said he can't be around anybody. After the call he sent me a long text explaining how depression feels to him, and that care and concern from others just pushes him further down. He said he was going to take his dog and head out bush to try and get a himself under control without feeling imprisoned in his house. Back to nature and solitude. He said it was best for everyone including himself, not to have contact, otherwise it would consume him and it would be too late. I replied saying I trusted he knew how best to manage himself and would be here when he got back.
Now all the hours of reading I've done is that isolation and pushing people away (and he acknowledged he was doing that) is part of the illness, but they don't really want that. I texted him last night with just an update on stuff, didn't ask questions, didn't say anything emotional or Christmassy, just stuff like I was planning a road/camping trip with my daughter. No reply. He may very well be in the middle of knowhere with no phone signal. He may be hiding out at home.
I've always loved this man from the moment we met, he is such a beautiful soul. We've drifted in and out of each other's lives for years, and then he'd bail. He only recently told me that this pattern of his only happens with me. We get close and then he freezes and backpedals, terrified. He has had trauma throughout his life.
Do I just reach out every few days or once a week, nothing heavy? Or do I honour his request for no contact? It's so hard to figure out the best thing to do.
He won't take meds, he says they make him feel like a zombie. He was seeing a psych and told me a little about that, but she's now on holidays and not back until January. His GP insists on him going in to see her, and she sends somebody out to the house if he doesn't, or calls him.
Thanks for reading.
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Hi CheeryRed,
It is difficult to love and care for someone and help them from a distance. It is wonderful that you care so much for this person and have their best interests at heart.
As a person with depression, I know what it is like when your mind confuses you so much. Part of you wants to be alone while another part of you wants someone to be there.
You know how this person usually reacts and behaves, so maybe just follow their lead. Sending text messages of care will probably be greatly appreciated.
Maybe some time out bush with his dog will be very beneficial for him. Hopefully he will keep in touch with you when he can.
Take care of yourself in all of this.
Cheers for now from Dools
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Thanks, Dools. I know I'm asking a question that is impossible to answer. If I don't know the answer when I know him better than anybody, how can anyone else possibly know.
I think if he wanted me to go away, like permanently, he'd have said so.
For now, my gut feeling is to just leave him be. I don't want to be another person who 'doesnt listen' when he's said it's better to have no contact.
I miss my best friend on this Christmas Eve, so much it hurts. Last year we were sitting on the floor together wrapping presents.
I guess he didn't have to answer the phone last week, or explain to me how he felt. But he did, so that's good right?
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Cherry Red, welcome to the forums. AS you can see it is full of kind people like Mrs Dools who understand and offer helpful suggestions.
In his mind he feels he is doing you a favour by pushing you away.
When I was very depressed I did not want anyone around because I felt I would upset them. When depressed you feel so worthless that you think you may affect those around you.
It is because you really care for someone you think they should not be around you. I know that sounds weird but it makes sense when depressed.
I agree with Mrs Dools that a short supportive text just telling him you are thinking of him may help but as you know him the best you will know if that is appropriate.
I agree that answering the phone and explaining how e he felt is a big deal and he obviously care a lot for you to take the effort to do that.
Look after yourself.
Quirky
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Thanks, Quirky.
Did you eventually reach out to your loved ones?
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Hi Again CheeryRed,
I've been trying to reach out to a friend of mine this Christmas whom I have known for decades and just don't seem to be getting a response. I don't know why, so in a simple way I have an idea of how you are feeling.
My depression has been shocking this year. I have been pushing some people away.
I decided to make a huge effort this Christmas and spent Saturday with my family. I had a couple of panic attacks but it was worth it. My family all said it was great that I had been able to spend the time with them.
I guess when we are so depressed we have no idea just how much people really do care for us and love us.
Sorry to know you are missing your friend. Hey, reach out, let him know you are thinking of him and mention you would love to hear from him when he is ready to do so.
Quirky has shared a little of her experiences and thoughts with you as well I see.
No matter what you choose to do with contacting your friend, I hope uyou are comfortable with your decision.
Hope you have other people to share Christmas with!
Cheers from Dools
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Hi Dools, your family would have been so happy that you joined them. Go you!
Because I sent him a message last night, I don't feel good sending another so soon. Even though I want to reach out so badly. It may be too much. If things were ok, I'd have no hesitation sending 5 and calling him as well. Actually if things were ok, he'd be here.
What I want, and what he needs right now seem at opposite ends of the universe. That's how it feels to me. I don't want to push him further away.
Who knows, he may contact me today or tomorrow. He's very caring like that and I do know that if he has an ounce of strength to spare, he'll summon that. For me. Saying that made me cry.
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Hi CheeryRed,
I'm wondering if it may help you in some way to write your friend a letter expressing everything you are feeling. This may well be a letter you never send!
It is a suggestion a psychologist made to me years ago. It helps you to get all your thoughts, feelings, hopes, fears, doubts perhaps and everything else that is going on in your mind onto paper.
I also hope you have somewhere to be today. I am about to head off to Church then we are spending the day with my husband's family. I am designated driver.
My Mum sent an email thanking me for visiting them so that was very lovely of her.
Hope you have an okay kind of a day and you are able to find some sense of peace regarding your friend.
Cheers again from Dools
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Hi Dools - I've personally said everything I wish to say to him. Right now I feel that I should just get on with my life, he'll contact me if he wants to. I am not prepared to wallow in grief wondering what is going on. I hope that doesn't seem harsh. I've waited and had patience over about 12 years, and cried and given. And waited. Wondered. Hoped.
I had a lovely day with my family, thank you. My children are adults. We spent the morning at my house and then went to my ex-husband's house (we divorced more than 20 years ago) and long ago both remarried and divorced etc. We have maintained a reasonable relationship over the years for our daughters. So this isn't an unusual thing for us to do. Might sound weird to people, but it works for us lol.
I might feel differently tomorrow about my lovely man, for now I've reached a limit that I think is best for my life and emotional wellbeing. Crying in the shower, or when I go to bed, or writing replies here is a warning to me to not get sucked down with his depression.
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Hi CherryRed,
We have just had a lovely day with my husband's family. It is wonderful you have had time with family also. I think it is wonderful you are able to spend time with your ex-husband, for some people that works for others it does not.
Yes, I agree that you may need to move on with your thoughts regarding your friend.
I know in the past my expectations regarding other people has increased my feelings of depression, thoughts that I don't matter and so many other negative combinations a distressed and upset mind can come up with.
Hopefully you will find ways to make the coming days ones where you find things to be thankful for.
Dwelling on issues can drag us down, finding gratitude each day can be uplifting!
All the best to you, cheers from Dools
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