Life Is Random & Pointless

[Realist_Sapien]

Welcome to my first post, just to disclaim this has nothing to do about me being depressed or suicidal.

I just cant get over how unbelievably pointless & painful this life factly is, now when i say this i don't mean that we should all just stop what we're doing & start staring at a wall, but its really important to not be naive about this, which is kinda what society is, a whole cesspool of contradictions & distractions, most of the things that we do nowadays are to just feed the mind & keeping the body satitsfied from breaking down too suddenly by stimulation such as releasing chemical rewards, all these can be achieved but cant always guaranteed happiness, which is another thing i cant stand about this civilisation or should i say work in progress, its almost like if you cant be happy to a certain extend or people please to fulfill theyre jester full desires, theyre gonna be contempt of you no matter what, all becuase you cant live up to absurd expectations, nobody's gonna be problem free in this world, which is why most of the things we do are just to kill time, which is why i can understand why people get addicted to things, because we live in a reality thats pretty disappointing, even those things have a limit, it may be giving you relief, but realise it never lasts long, only because we're not so used to looking into healthier outlets, to be honest i dont think we live in a healthy world, most things are instant gratification, chasing pleasure, looks maxing, because sooner or later you have to ask yourself why do we need all these things just to get by in life that never lasts forever, its only awkward at first when youre not so used to asking such things, like being conditioned since the start of birth, by people who arent even aware themmelves of whats going on around them, but expect you to know what you wanna do when really its not as straight forward as anyone thought is was gonna be, for pete sake, people cant even figure out what theyre gonna do next weekend, yet they expect you to have your future figured out, we live in a double standard judgemental condescending populous, which is why its very important to see behind the scenes in everything, its dangerous to be gullible by believing everything you see or hear, It is quite certain that society doesnt really do a good job teaching these sort of attributes.

Stupid how they only give you 2500 characters, its like theyre allergic to hear what people really have to say, anyway thank's for reading.

[Croix]

Dear Realist_Sapien~

I can't argue wiht all the shortcomings of the human race that you have listed in detail. It's quite true life can be repetitive, htat people can ignore what they don't like and many are destructive.

You have standards that allow you to see these things and realize what they are, and if htat's all htere was it would be very depressing, however those standards should also allow you to see the praiseworthy and sensible side of things too.  It can have a cheering effect.

You started down that road talking about fulfilling obligations, if you have a child it is a lifelong commitment. There are so many other examples if you look. Firefighters can be one, people treating infectious diseases can another. The list goes on. These people do have a realistic idea of the world and its risks as they act.

There is no reason why you should not list everything bad, as you have found here many people agree. However I would have though you might feel a balance is in order, equalizing the scales with the hopeful and inspiring in humanity. Seeing just the bad has to have an effect on you, it would for me. I hope you can gain equanimity with that balance

Croix

[melodica]

Hello Realist_Sapien,

There’s a lot in what you’ve written across this thread, and I hear the frustration that’s been building for a long time. You’ve asked some hard questions: why we keep participating in systems we didn’t choose, why suffering seems built into the deal.

I'm curious what a good day looks like for you, even a small one. What  was different about it?

You also mention feeling like your soul left before you realised it. When did you first notice that shift, and what was happening in your life around that time?

I live with disability myself, and I’ve had long stretches of asking why bother continuing with any of it. What shifted things was  finding one or two things that felt like mine, not performed for anyone else. I’m not saying that fixes what you’re describing. I’m asking because you clearly think deeply, and I’d rather hear more of your thinking than tell you what to do with it.

If things ever tip from exhausting to unbearable, Beyond Blue’s line is there 24/7 on 1300 224 636.

[Realist_Sapien]

This is gonna be a controversial topic so if this offends anyone dont say i didnt warn you, but hey what can I say, i just don't like people "like at all" & I'm gonna explain why.

Firstly do I really have to come out & say it, i mean just look at us, we're really are joke of a species when you look at it dead straight in the eye, I mean whats so great about us anyway, what because we have technology where everything's at our finger tips, I mean we get way too ahead of ourselves don't we & not only that people have grown more crude overtime, nobody know's how to talk to each other anymore, people only talk to you when they want something from you, people like to cause drama for no reason because their primal instincts get the best of them while claiming we're a quote on quote advanced species or whatever you know, then you gotta take sh*t from others all the time like parents, peers, friends, wannbe experts, i mean everybody's a wannbe right with name tags, but man when it all comes down to it, all we ever do is cause nothing but unessesary problems, its like a cancer that never stops spreading, like can you imagine taking this to other planets, this is why alien's dont want nothing to do with us because we're just too far ridiculous you know (laughs).

People wonder to themselves oh why is the gaba gaba world the way it is you know, I mean isn't it obvious that none of us really have a clue on what we're actually doing here, because if we did then you'd think things would've been better by now wouldn't they, the part that no one wants to admit though is life is nothing more but a competition.

We got high cost of living, got high cost of housing, too many people being born for no good reason just to end up in the same position that we are in, like oh my wouldn't miss it for the world, our leaders dont know what theyre doing, then you get ones saying oh how can they not care about us, & i witnessed people say this alot, to think that these guys really give a toss about anyone of us just shows gullible we are.

Do we really think these guys care about us in the same way as we picture it, like cmon now cmon you know, which is also why I dont vote, because why am I gonna vote for someone whos just gonna make my life 10x more harder than it already is now huh, like how's it noble to do that, its sucks enough how they make it compulsory, however i choose not to despite being fined, why... because i dont believe in it, oh man just honestly what a joke you know.

[randomxx]

Thk the Gods though, not every one is like that, although we have become on average a very shallow and materialistic people sadly. There's no depth to us and too often no good will either.

Your right about our pollies, what this latest mobs been turning our country in =to last 4-5yrs , is a disgusting disgrace and l think l'm even more ashamed of our people for just putting up with it , half of us don't even see what they're doing to the place and to us.

Sadly , we're just not that into giving a damn or saying /doing much about it here, we're v puppy doggish and allow them to do with us all and out country, what they want, while they line their own pockets you can bet on that.

And when someone with some actual vision does come along, they don't get in , they either have other issues or the people are just too damn concentrative to vote them. What's left and that do get in are just selling their very souls , their country and our peoples too, off down the river.

Sadly l gave up voting and managed to get myself out of it yrs ago bc there's just no one worth voting for that's come along or if there has been l know they won't get in anyway so why bother.

Butttt, good news is, not all of us are like that, there are good people around, even just look at BB right here but not only, out in our world and all around us as well in our everyday lives too.

l put my foot down a long time ago , on myself , kinda when l started realizing that most people l'd been around, weren't very nice people, not people l believed the way we should be. When l finally excepted that l'd been wasting my time and energy on people l know for a fact and don't even believe in , l put my foot down. l want good people in my life, people that do care and that will be there, people with depth even if they're appear just happy go lucky or whatever type personality, inside they're good people , my people. Quality beats quantity every time hands down.

Soooo, there aren't many people in my life , buttt, those that are are genuinely good souls that also care about those close to them  and will do for me what l would for them. Ofc there's much more to it than just that sort of thing, but it's made a huge difference to my small world, being a bit more choosy about who l'm around or let in or call special to me.

You can't control the world or change a society - not unless you wanna drive yourself mad and get out there demonstrating for decades , but you can try to make your own little world about what you believe in and of what matters to you.

rx

[Realist_Sapien]

Hello... here's to another post as usual, before I start off i just need to clarify that I don't just come here to rain the parade on everyone, that's not what i like to do, i only come here to vent my thought's that I have stated way before on another post, "which does help" to me at least especially when the truth hurts because let's face it, its never easy telling stuff like this which is why its easier to retreat, me i can't do that, sooner or later we're all gonna have to find out some time.

Anyway's today I needed to spill how im just done feeding to consumerism,you know I dont see the need to go buying things I dont really need where they never last long, the need to go showing off materialist possession's, i mean people may pay attention for a 1minute or 2 then back to focusing on themselves, the point where you buy things that you have no full control over, like owner management right's, the owner you buy goods from still has control over that gear you use, like a digital service or appliance, like why buy things where they'll make you pay a peripheral within the product just to use it everytime you know, I mean we already use phones that we rely on so thats not going anytime soon.

With all kidding aside, you'd be suprised on how little we really need to get by, like me personally I dont need much, whenever its time for me to vacate or a contastophie were to happen im ready, thats the beauty of having less, you know not like those putrid tv commercials, if theres anything more annoying in this world today it has to be that, i mean what on freakin earth am I gonna learn by seeing someone shoving a big mac into their mouth muching away smiling so smuggly like im supposed to find it amsuing, like noo man noo, I dont care like what am I gonna gain out of this, im just waiting for the program to get lost because i can only barely handle being shown too much rubbish, like not just tv, its everywhere, they sure tell you how to drain your wallet, but not tell you "only what you need" now ok yea they gotta make money, but man cut the stupid annoying ad's already, its gonna make me charge into the screen like a raging bull you know, not that i would do something like that, but just an expression of how much I cant stand seeing ad's.

But yea im just done with it all you know, making these guys richer & richer funding their aspirations, at the end of the day stuff is just stuff, the ones that do last are the ones that'll serve you in the long run.

[Realist_Sapien]

We are so compelled to believe the cycle has to keep on going, why do we gotta prove ourselves to other's we don't even know who, why do we have the tendency to give temporary life just like our predecessors did with us, yet we hardly remember who they were or what their names are.

Everything we gain as well is only temporarily, nothing that we studied hard for or spent time with just end's up becoming the past, for instance i want others to experience what i experienced in life, now i guess i can understand if only it was what people actually meant it would be, because if it were then we would have that world now wouldn't we, however we are not immortal, we cant really tell whats gonna happen when its our time, so why pass that burden onto someone else, afterall we are taking a risk & imposing that onto somebody else just for the chance of a little thrill that hardly ever lasts long of course.

So what we could be asking oursleves is why would I want somebody to experience a life where theres no guarantee of what might happen to them, they could be happy probably, they could be sad probably, or they could end up in prison one day, or they could end up at a dead end job, without the distractions attached with just pure reflection.

The only hurdle is its not that easy for everyone to do since we got errands to run, we gotta go to work, we gotta take our kids to school, we gotta do grocery shopping then we gotta pick up our kids from school then do it all over again the next day, we are so used to & caught up by the automations of racing the clock where we barley have any time to ask what type of investment am i gonna get & was it worth going through all that struggle just to reutrn to the same state & forget it all once more.

You see a few things to know of me is, I dont believe in legacies because at the end of the day, nothing you ever do nor accomplish comes with you, secondly I dont favour condemning other innocent lives into a world that never stops perpetuating just for the sake of evolution, i think we have reached a mark in this day n age where we now know we dont have to keep adding fuel into the fire, thirdly I cant say if there is or isn't a higher being, because if there were any such thing, there would be proof, now I asked multiple times by other folks & it just shown me how theyre just as unsure as I am.

When given the opportunity to ignite a new chapter, knowing how it'll end anyway why risk it, a very solid good reason with no desires attached.

[Realist_Sapien]

This is probably gonna be another dramatic post so I'll try to keep it canned as possible.

But yeah I just can't comprehend on what we're supposed to be doing here anymore, like everyone seems to be so absorbed into their own generalisation's & opinion's about why we're here & what our purpose of existence is, however in a grand of it, i just dont really see any reason to being here at all, i think its completely arbitrary.

Are we really just meant to go to work make money, pay bills, get trapped in debt & do it all over again, is that really what this is all about, because thats what it seems to be, & whats even more bizarre is how alot of people are cool with it, you know we go throught all this struggle, all this heartache, all this sacrifice just to lose it in the end, like how on earth does that make any sense, its like a herd mentality that just goes & does whatever everybody else's is doing without question & i really have a hard time living abide that.

How does anybody go on being told what to do their entire lives & act like nothing's up, i really dont get people like that i absolutely dont, its like everybody's living in their own inner world's, fooling themselves as much as they can to avoid confrontations which i can understand, but i just dont relate to many, like those who wanna get married, those who "want" kids, those who wanna build a career or job is there really a difference, retiring to preservation age, i just dont see the point in any of these tradition's, at the end of the day they all made up mentally & imposed by others.

We trade so much time chasing finite things rather than focusing on what aligns us, im not saying dont try & make connections, but we only live long right which is taken up more by survival mode, if you think things couldn't be more dystopian enough just wait, everyone like's to be grandiose about the future acting all confident about it, but looking at things now just doesnt seem so promising & I wouldn't count on hope for that.

Nothing feels the same anymore, everythings feels so individualised where social media has disconnected us more than connected, we were fine without it after all these years, now all of the sudden we gotten so used to believing that we need it now, its like we digging our own trench & all we seem to do is say, oh well we cant control it, well alright then.

Just so sick of coping, distracting, hoping, slaving, how does anybody not get tired of this, for real you know, anyway thats all for today.

[mmMekitty]

Hello Realist_Sapien,

I've seen another thread you started. I wasn't sure what to say. Indeed, I'm still not sure.

I wanted to welcome you to the forum, because we haven't met before.

I have a few thoughts brewing in my mind about things you are talking about.

For myself, once upon a time, I was very apathetic, not caring about anything, just going along with whatever was going on around me, to me too. I didn't care about myself either, had no idea about what my life could be, if I should be here at all - nothing.

My attitude got me into dangerous situations. & I think I didn't grow up much until well into my 30's. At 15 I couldn't imagine my 30's. Had no plans, no goals, no practical dreams. & no motivation to get up & do anything about them if I had.

Now I'm very nearly an official 'senior' citizen. I've done a few things I've thought were worthwhile, helping people in some way or other. I like to think I can help a little here on BB, too - though not as much as I had hoped. Still, is it worth my effort to try, even if i fail?

I think so.

I have thought of a book I had read, by a man who survived the Holocaust. The book is "Man's Search for Meaning", by Victor Frankl. His main message seems to me to be that any meaning there is to life is up to us to define for ourselves. 

Another idea some people have is to leave the world a little better than when they entered it.

Both these ideas take some thought & a great deal of effort.

I can't tell you how to live in this world, only you can. & only you can change things which you control. You cannot control others & force everyone else to hold the same values, beliefs to have the same goals, to want all the same things you think are only sensible. It's a big enough job to care for yourself, to eat well, exercise, find something meaningful, (however you define that meaning), to do with your time. For you, I'm guessing, that won't involve people. Maybe animals or plants?

Just something to think about.

Hugzies,

mmMekitty