is anger depression

boondy · ‎25-05-2015

Hey all.im new here so dont really know wat to say or how. im 39-Ive suffered depression anxiety anger issues for so long only clinically diagnosed 5 years ago.have a few family members with depression lost my uncle n a close mate to suicide.been on dif meds over time 4 dif psyches 3 dif gps.at moment i dont take meds not for last year or so.i dont feel as if meds work. I dont get'depressed''or suicidal thoughts like I have in the past but the anxiety n getting angry at the smallest things n I guess just negative towards so much Is a daily struggle.my girlfriend/daughters mum wants me to get help if not for me for my daughter.but I dont think I need meds N just about given up on shrinks.is there hope?

Jacko777 · ‎25-05-2015

Hello boondy, welcome to the Beyond Blue forums, I am glad you have posted. To answer your question, YES!! I think there is always hope. It sounds like you have been working to fix this and I hope you keep trying, eventually you will come to find a way to work on this successfully.

I went on the meds for a while and got off as quick as I could. I worked with many psychs and counselors before I really started to improve but it was a journey that I had to take. Something that has helped me tremendously with anxiety and anger is meditation. Have you tried? It is worth a go, it helps me to train my brain to focus, to focus on the positive and bring me calmness to override the anger. I found that my anger was an old thought pattern that I allowed to occur subconsciously, reacting with anger to situations did not reflect who I really was so I practiced changing it, gave myself a little thought loop, a moment in time to respond from my heart rather than react from my conditioned mind.

Never give up mate, you sound like a lovely fella who is surrounded by lovely caring folks, make steps each day and you will come closer to a solution that works for you. Feel free to chat anytime, I could talk for hours about meditation!

Jack

geoff · ‎25-05-2015

dear Boondy, welcome to the BB forum, and thanks for posting this question, which is indeed a very involved question, or maybe it's not.

When someone becomes depressed their whole life has had a sudden change, it goes into turmoil, for certain reasons, like their business has had to close or gone bankrupt, family has broken up, just as a relationship can also do, we are dragged off to hospital after we try and end our own life, and boy, I could go on but I won't because the point has been made.

When any or perhaps all of the above happen there has to be anger, annoyance and frustration, because so much has been lost.

The suicide of your uncle and mate must have brought on anger, wondering why the hell they did it, and why didn't they come to you to talk about their problems, so can I ask you, 'is this anger brought on by disappointment or was it physical', because both to me are different. Geoff.

boondy · ‎23-06-2015

Hello.you weretalking about meditation helping you.where and how did u go about learning some methods.thanks

boondy · ‎23-06-2015

Hello geoff.these suicides did leave me angry sad lots mixed feelings.i can sort of understand why they did it because I have been close myself and spent a lot of years not caring about myself and not believing i was worthy of anything .made worse by some addictions along the way to stop-hide these feelings.my anger-anxiety is something ive dealt with since early teens, i saw a psyche when i was in myearly teens and all they could say was i had a lot of built up anger.the smallest things can trigger my angerand I just go off and stay angry for hrs even over silly things, its not just disappointment which I think most people probaly feel.

Boondy

Jacko777 · ‎23-06-2015

Hi Boondy, nice to hear from you, I hope you are going okay.

I really like smilingmind.com.au, a great starting point. There is stacks of info about meditation on the internet and lots of books if you prefer to visit your local library. There are groups and retreats possibly near where you live.

I have tried different meditations over the years and these days I do a simple sitting meditation where I start with some relaxation and then focus on my breathing, often starting with counting in my mind, 4 seconds in (breath) 4 seconds out, letting muscles relax on the out breath. When I have thoughts come to mind I try to put them in a pigeon hole for later, recognize that you have many thoughts and that you will give them time later, not now, or you can watch them float off on a balloon or such, the aim is to stayed focus on counting and then just watching the breath. It may feel tedious or frustrating but remember, it is this practice not the perfection of meditation that brings more ability to focus on thoughts as we desire, to stop them from controlling us, to be the boss of our own mind.

All the best, let us know how you go if you feel like it.

Jack

h_bomb · ‎23-06-2015

Hey mate, I used to get pretty bad anger problems with depression, incredibly bad and I think I have every right to be as well with the way I've been treated etc. But one thing I can offer you is, that no one in the history of man kind has ever gotten in trouble for feeling angry, no one! So if you are angry, please make sure you don't lash out on loved ones. I've lost plenty of mates due to anger problems etc, however I am telling you that there can and there is always going to be hope, trust me I've been there.

Make sure you find the right people in your life, whether that be joining new clubs, doing voluntary work or getting apart of a community. If a change needs to happen make the change. Surround yourself with positive people and the people that bring the best in you and you will experience feelings of happiness, I promise. Trust me bro I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I lost nearly all my best mates from high school that hate me these days, but make sure you find the right people in your life that bring the positive side to you.