Do you think it completely goes away?

Scotty2013
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Hi been a while since i been here, Hi Neil and others, Life has been so so for me, normal roller coaster. Do you think it ever goes away Anxiety/Dep or just goes into remission?.  I get so tired of having to feel it daily, push through it year after year, it would be nice to be normal, what is normal?. 
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Dwwmills
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Hi Scotty2013.

That’s a good question. My vote is it goes into remission in the short term but could possibly go away altogether in the long term. I suffered with GAD for nearly 40 years and felt it daily as you say. It finally took my psychologist and my family to convince me that this was not normal and I needed to do something about it. It took me about two years using medication and CBT to get on top of it. I was doing very well after about six months and it took the rest of the time to consolidate it and finally get off medication. I still practice CBT nearly every day but I don’t have that anxious feeling that I need to push through any more.

 

I recently had a major health problem, which I’m still dealing with at the moment, but my anxiety has been under control. I put this down to all the training in CBT which has allowed me to deal with the uncertainty of the outcome.

 

If you’re still having this anxious feeling on a daily basis it may be worth going to see someone to get some help as you don’t need to experience this.

 

Good luck

Dean

Dwwmills said:

Hi Scotty2013.

That’s a good question. My vote is it goes into remission in the short term but could possibly go away altogether in the long term. I suffered with GAD for nearly 40 years and felt it daily as you say. It finally took my psychologist and my family to convince me that this was not normal and I needed to do something about it. It took me about two years using medication and CBT to get on top of it. I was doing very well after about six months and it took the rest of the time to consolidate it and finally get off medication. I still practice CBT nearly every day but I don’t have that anxious feeling that I need to push through any more.

 

I recently had a major health problem, which I’m still dealing with at the moment, but my anxiety has been under control. I put this down to all the training in CBT which has allowed me to deal with the uncertainty of the outcome.

 

If you’re still having this anxious feeling on a daily basis it may be worth going to see someone to get some help as you don’t need to experience this.

 

Good luck

Dean

Afternoon Dean,

That's great your's is under control, after such a long time 40yrs, I did try CBT a few times, mindfulness helped more so than CBT. I guess I've had windows of ok periods where it's been manageable, but i find if something big happens, then i am right back where i left of again paralysed. But i also feel it's like it's plateau, I've not managed to get to the next step yet, i know there is better, but that better's never came. A lot of the days i feel I exist, but am not living as such, not that i expect to be joyous 24/7 but would be nice to wake up without dread.  Sorry to hear about your health hiccup, I hope it sorts itself out, but it's good your tools are working to cope with this setback.  You have a point,  maybe it maybe worthwhile seeing someone again, for a while...it does help even venting..cheers Scott. 

Hi Scotty2013.

 

CBT only works through repetition. It’s like trying to learn to play tennis. You can take a couple lessons and get an idea on how to do things but if you want to get really good at it you have to practice practice practice. Just like tennis you don’t do the same exercise each time forever but you do it long enough to gain some skill in a particular area. Then you go on and learn a new part of the skill needed to play tennis. To find your serving goes off after a while you go back and practice at skill again.

 

I found a good phone app at a site called “Excel at Life”. There are several apps and is several tests to help you choose the apps. There is also a load of articles and audios that you can listen to that teach you CBT. The bit I liked about the phone apps is that they are very easy to use because you have your phone on you all the time and it keeps a record of how your thinking is been going. The whole service is free and it has been put together by a psychologist.

 

Good luck

Dean

geoff
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dear Scotty, if you think that your depression of any type has left you, then it has gone and left you, but if you doubt that you still have it then it hasn't gone away.
Simple analogy this may seem to be, but if you think that way then that's good, however in comparsion to playing tennis as Dean has mentioned, let's substitute with playing golf, then why does someone have 5 rounds of perfect golf, so you would expect that you will play perfect rounds each and every time, but unfortuntely if you do play golf this never happens.
For me I don't believe that 'it doesn't completely go away', simply because I do have relapses, but let's assume (?) I don't have a relapse, I still don't believe that it goes away, even though I have overcome depression for quite awhile now.
When someone has suffered from depression, then are we able to recognise and accept all our demons that we have been struggling with, well that depends on how each person is able to realise that some problems can be pushed into the back-ground, but then something may happen which could ignite a problem which we have tried to forget about.
If someone is asked about their depression and whether they are feeling much better, and they reply by saying yes, then is this putting on a brave face once again.
So do we have to be 100% free of our depression to then classify us as 'it has been completely gone, but no one is perfect and no one can be 100% sure, but life can go on even if you feel 90% and then feel you are getting on with life. Geoff.

JessF
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Dwwmills said:

CBT only works through repetition. It’s like trying to learn to play tennis. You can take a couple lessons and get an idea on how to do things but if you want to get really good at it you have to practice practice practice.

This is a really key point. And like learning a new skill, it's always tempting to give up in the early stages because that's when it's the hardest.

I have found ACT (acceptance commitment therapy) skills to be useful for me too, Scotty, particularly around youroriginal question, does it ever go away?  Struggling with the idea that we want to be cured of anxiety and depression (aka: uncomfortable feelings) is fruitless because they are part of the spectrum of human emotion. It's a bit like wanting to never feel physical pain again - we may wish to avoid it, or minimise it, but as soon as you trip over or stub your toe it is going to hurt.  I have found that peace comes with accepting that these feelings will be there in some form throughout life, just as happiness and joy are. It's all about how we cope along the way.

submeg
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I agree, ACT is quite useful.

blondguy
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Hi Scotty and Angela Lansbury (JessF)

Scotty, Paul here...I just wish to say that JessF is spot on here with her comments regarding 'Acceptance' of the 'feelings' The best 'advice' I was told by a Doc was "you will have it for a very long time'. Sure that was awful to hear, but my female doctor was right. I resigned myself from 'fighting' and 'controlling' or pushing through the anxiety/depression. I just had to accept it...And after a while the symptoms (feelings) decreased and are a memory now....actually they are nearly boring....

The ACT skills are based on the writings of Dr Claire Weeks (RIP) who wrote a very simple but excellent paperback called "Self Help for Your Nerves". Even with the dated title Dr Weeks does explain in plain English how 'Calm and True Acceptance' works....In a nutshell with practise over and over this brilliant coping mechanism extinguishes the fires of anxiety...(most of them) to enable you to build a foundation on which you can heal to even a greater extent.

Reference: 'Self Help for your Nerves' by Claire Weeks. 

What a great topic Scotty! I hope your weekend is good to you

Kind Thoughts

Paul

CMF
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Hi,

it don't believe it goes away permanently. Once you've even through it you're always a little more sensitive to things, there are always triggers.  Diet and exercise are important and how you deal with things makes a difference.  I agree with accepting your thoughts and feelings so they don't control you, you take over the control.

look up inositol, it's natural and it works.  Worth a try.

cmf