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Anxiety, panic, and just coping.
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Hi,
I know I'm not alone by any means (Thank you Beyond Blue) but somehow that knowledge does not help.
Trust me I've read a lot, been to a lot of therapy, made a lot of progress. But.
That awful feeling of panic, then stupidity sets in, irrational behaviour kicks into high gear, breath gets difficult, speech becomes impossible, and then the chest pain and headaches set in. In spite of wishing for the ground to open up and swallow me, it does not. I have to deal with my issues.
In spite of a desperate need to connect with people I drive them away, and run away myself. I am so tired of being an anxiety riddled social lepper. And I have so tried. Now out of visits on my mental health plan, and can't afford the therapy I need, what do people do?
Thank you all.
PS. to White Rose you lovely contributor, it is so nice to see your avatar but so sad to hear your news. I am thinking of you and so hope you recover and feel better very soon.
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HI Marty89,
For me, I sometimes have to ride the feeling out, then tell myself it is just a reaction, it is normal for me to happen and find a way to move forward.
It helps sometimes to distract my mind, to try and concentrate on what is happening around me, to tell myself it is okay and maybe try some deep breathing or counting backwards from 100 by 3s. My mind gets distracted and the force of the attack is not so strong.
Hope you find some strategies to help yourself.
Cheers from Dools
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Hello Mouse
How are you going? The weather is warmer here than down south so we have something to be pleased about. Are you going to the EKKA? I think I have been there twice. Not a fan of lots of walking though I do like looking at the stuff in the various pavilions.
Dools has it right in saying, 'we need to ride the feeling out, then tell myself it is just a reaction, it is normal for me to happen and find a way to move forward'. It is helpful to know these horrible thoughts and feelings will go and to find a distraction. Once we have found something that works it feels so good.
I started what I thought was a one year course a couple of months ago. Discovered after two weeks it's four years. Oh well, it will keep me out of mischief. I have to drive into the city to attend and every time I find a new part of the roadworks. Going in is OK as it is daylight but once it gets dark I do need the security of knowing exactly where I am and where to go next. Not a very adventurous driver.
How did the walking go this weekend? If I walked as often as I thought about it I would be super fit. Sigh. Did you meet up with the group? How nice to have company on the way and perhaps forget your problems for a short time.
May I ask, is there a reason why you have not mentioned your wife? I just wondered if you were still together. How is your daughter going? I think she was a great support to you in the past.
Mary
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Hello Mouse
Sorry for not posting lately. I saw my GP this morning on another matter but he also checked me out for the 'flu. Said this is what I had even though there was no temperature which apparently happens as we age. Our response system goes down a bit and as I understand it, a high temperature kills off the virus. So I had the 'flu and still feel quite unwell. Now got to the tired but better stage where I start to do something and then leave it as the energy has gone.
Hopefully I will feel much better in the next few days.
Hope you are feeling well.
Mary
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Hi Marty89,
I wish I had, I've tried so much and then something sets me off and I can not handle it. I can't believe my stupidity and how pathetic I feel, all this panic and no breath. I'm so tired of it. I'm sorry I can't help.
White Rose, Doolhof, Ladies, I'm sorry. Its been a very rough couple of weeks. No I don't do crowds so Ekka is just the worst, I did go for a walk instead.
But my fitness is not so good, and then when I struggle I start to panic, then I can't breathe, which does not help walking up hills etc. I'm walking with a lovely, supportive group that try to help. I know they are trying to help, but that just kills me and the attention makes me freak out into a severe panic attack. How stupid eh? I just can't handle the attention I want to crawl under a rock and hide. All this therapy and nothing solves or even helps.
I'm so frustrated.
I hope you are both doing better, I hope you get over the flu soon White Rose.
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Hi QldMouse,
Sorry to hear that you are having a rough time. I hope you feel some ease soon. There are support services out there at minimal cost. Counselling Helpline Melbourne are a phone counselling service who are 100% Medicare bulk billed and all counsellors are registered with Medicare, so it will not set you back all too much financially. They operate between 12pm-10pm, 7 days per week.
There is also a free phone counselling service called GriefLine (1300 845 745) who operate between midday - 3am, 7 days per week including public holidays. They also provide free online counselling too.
Hope this has helped even slightly.
Sending you well wishes.
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Dear Bethy94
Welcome to the forum. It's great to see BV members posting here. Thank you for your information. I have not come across either of these services before. I will add them to my list of resources. No cost or low cost services are so necessary these days. The provisions of a mental health plan, especially where the psychologist bulk bills, are great but only having ten appointments a year leaves the person needing help in no man's land. Even having just one appointment per month stills falls short of an adequate service where someone has a long term problem.
Mary
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Hello Mouse
So sorry you have been going through a rough time. I wondered why we had not heard from you for a while, but then I have not been posting for a while because I was unwell. Thanks for your good wishes.
We are told that exercise is good for physical fitness and that it also helps in managing our various mental health problems. Which makes it sad when we have difficulty getting regular exercise. Hopefully, as you continue walking with the group, both of these aspects of your life will start to improve. It is disconcerting to run out of breath by walking.
I have battled through that horrible feeling when there seems no way I can stop. It does take time to get away from that awful feeling of panic and distress. I see it like learning to drive. It's hard the first few lessons and we make mistakes not to mention feeling extremely nervous. Practising makes us comfortable until we realise we do not need to concentrate on the individual actions but have put it all together.
Learning ways to move from panic and fear is the same. We need a plan, a coping mechanism to get through these times. This is why I ask if you had learned some coping strategies from the psych. They work when you are talking to the psych but out in the world it's not so easy. We need the ability to automatically switch to our coping processes. This is the hard part.
If you practice remembering a process, going through it in your mind to get the steps right, it does help. Again like learning to drive, the more often we rehearse what to do the better our reaction time becomes. Remembering to stop and take a deep breath before the panic completely sets in is essential and of course is the hardest bit. It seems we get swept away on the full tide of emotion and like a swimmer caught in a rip we find ourselves going under.
Can you practice what to do in these situations? Going through the steps helps you to retain the knowledge which leads to your automatic coping reaction. It does work in the same way as learning to drive. One day you suddenly find you are not overwhelmed by the deluge of emotion and can manage the situation. It does take practice.
Can you stop calling yourself names. It's false to say you are stupid and need to run away from others. This is your fear controlling you. I know you believe nothing helps but you can manage. It takes time to settle a new mechanism inside and constant practice. It does work but you must do the work to get there.
Mary
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Hi Mary
Thanks for your message. Definitely add each number to your list of resources, low cost and free services are imperative for those who can't afford private practice clinics or have run out of mental health plan visits. The government should consider boosting the mental health plan number even slightly, as it could make a world of difference to someone struggling - hopefully one day. It's a great service as is, but has the potential to go much further.
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Thank you Bethy94,
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll see if there is anything similar in Brisbane. That sounds very useful and I'll bet its busy.
Thank you for the well wishes, that is very kind of you.
Hi White Rose,
That is a lot of good information I think. A lot of deep and difficult thinking and reflection. I have been down the path of learning breathing, and so many other techniques. They all blend after a while,its so hard to keep it straight and when the stress smacks you down. Not easy.
You are so right, working through things in a safe comfy therapy session is not like dealing with real life.
Thank you again, I'll keep trying.
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Sorry, its a pretty weak reply, I'm so tired and just numb from exhaustion. Its taking everything I have to keep working and put on a brave face. I need to sleep and hope tomorrow will be better.
Sad to hear you are unwell White Rose, I hope you get well soon.
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