Tired Of Life

[Karioshi]

Hello, my name is Steven im 24 & on the cusp about seeing life for what it is or just the old aww your just depressed so & so as most individuals would probably go along with just to put a label on you.

Everyday when i wake up, the first thought's that come to mind are "oh great another pointless day again🙄" gotta get ready, gotta hygienise myself, gotta eat/drink, gotta play dress up, gotta drive all the way to work & when I get to work, i gotta pretend that im a yes man to work in order to keep it, & make constant small talk all the time to avoid being excluded & risk of job loss.

Seriously why are we forced to jump thru so many hoops just to have a decent simple life, life just is but not to sound biased tho it seems humans just make it more harder.

i always hear people constantly boasting on radio, on billboards, on television, in groups, sign's of saying "look up & live" look up to the future.

I just get so sick & fed up of acting like all of this is normal & aww thats just life so quit complaing & deal with it, like what so wrong with saying life today is not okay when it isnt.

Yes we might have the sky, the clouds, the oceans, nature, wildlife, food & water, make life for what you make of it as ive been told thru out my life, but are we really living?

Is going to a job you hate everyday just to make ends meet living or just surviving as usual, as thats what kind of seems to be with the majority & if you dont want to participate you get threatened of not having income & a way of means of not providing for yourself.

All im saying is life could be better for all, instead alot of folks just wanna extract & reap resources for themselves while the others live with scraps & get paid penny's on the dollar, worrying all the time how am I gonna pay for my mortgage or rent, or utilities, provide for my offspring.

As negative as this sounds which probably does depending on the person, how else am I supposed to explain without hurting anybody's feelings, i can't just keep on tiptoeing for the rest of my life pretending everything's okay all the time because its not.

If everybody was so content & thankful for their roles, then why are they still unhappy, then they want to bring somebody here & have them go thru the same thing just to keep them company & not have a care in the world what he or she would experience in this life because as long as they're getting what they want, to hell with them.

For instance i hear parents saying i want to give my young ones a brighter future, I dont them to suffer like I did.

Please make it make sense, because not of this really does.

[white knight]

Hi welcome

Im 70yo and when 25 yo i felt the same. Fortunately a few things happened thereafter that changed my views and turned it all around so I hope it helps.

1. Change of environment.  I grew up in the city. For me it made sense to move to a regional town a little beyond commuter range say 2 hours from a city. Much more relaxed.

2. Hobby or passion. People that grow up with a passion continually yearn to do it, it makes working at a job easier.

3. More enjoyable employment.  In the regional town here jobs advertised recently include- farm hand, courier driver, 24 hour service station cook and counter attendant. Most dont require experience.  

4. We live in a complex world but we are limited to how we can alter that

 Better to try to accept this world for how it operates. Fighting it doesnt produce any result except mental health deterioration,  anxiety, ulcers and sadness for other family members. 

5. New short medium and long term plans are a start. Motivation youtube videos do help. Google - youtube Prem Rawat Maharaji. He has many amazing videos.

Meditation - words of wisdom - it helped me for 25... - Beyond Blue Forums - 89818 https://share.google/y1JnGjwgskwVcWWab

When all is lost....what can you do? Be radical? - Beyond Blue Forums - 47450 https://share.google/kKuxyscP4OiOtCbkB

Those two posts might help you. I dont mind at all chatting here further, just reply. Im here daily. 

TonyWK 

[Karioshi]

Hello & thanks for getting back to my post, I did made a previous one before about a similar topic, however the responses weren't as constructive nor helpful, I take they were overlooked like it was more of a TLDR & was hoping to get some insight from that as well if you please.

First off i like to disclaim that no im not suicidal altho i cant blame for the people who do as alot of our problems can be externally & out of our control especially from the people we hang around with, i also accepted the fact that we cannot always agree & thats okay, im here to claim like i know everything because i dont or condescend anybody, i just need to get my thoughts out as i find alot of social media platforms full of toxic positivity & mediocrity.

So my main question is to figure out what exactly is going on here, by that i mean in a broader sense, why do I have to be here, why do I have to endure all this daily nonsense, why did our parents have us & was it for the good intentions, was it for some fancy fairytale legacy, to continue our blood line whatever that even means, to supersede the need who are already suffering created by man from past to present or is there even a need to be here at all just to end up in the same place anyways & by that its not to sound dark but the truth, i mean we can't possibly believe that we're gonna live forever now do we.

Even if i can't make any sense of it would still be appreciative for some inspiration as these days its extraordinarily hard & not just here in australia but globally, theres so much to worry about especially when youre young & have to worry about your place being taken to artificial intelligence this goes to elders as well, they tell us to go to school, get good grades, go to uni & get a good job, hey for some it may be possible unless you know somebody like a friend or spouse so called nepotism or else you end up being in a position outisde your main speciality, maybe some wouldnt mind but what would be the point of going thru all that in the first place.

I hate to say but alot of that advice seems outdated, corporation's do not care as a matter of fact, in other words I am expendable as a tool just like a light bulb, Im always at the mercy of my paycheck, getting scolded & exploited or even worse being made redundant then what, i get evicted, gotta live back with family which im not judging or else im forced to live in my car.

Alot of companies rather candidates who have 3+ or 5 years of experience & bachelors degree, especially in roles that are entry level & expect you to be a magician of all things, truth is it doesnt have to be, its only to tick the bureaucracy boxes, its hard to find a good company that pays & means well as everything's just getting to impulsively expensive. Which is why AI is having the front row seat now, to cut costs to cut the need of benefits, to fill quota's, to be more efficient than a human just to be made obsolete, you know just because man finds something to be a good idea doesnt mean it should always be implemented into reality, as a matter of fact people only tend to think about the positives only leaving out the consequences then all of a sudden they regret their decision & the tables turn.

Its harder to get a home now which leaves more people stuck in the rental market, you end up taking out a mortgage that ends up owning you, you probably won't even be around by the time you pay it off, its like having a ball chain strapped to your ankle, yes you got more security, but just remember its not entirely yours until you pay your end of the agreement & as far as im concerned with what companies are paying nowadays its a joke, you got people leaving & reconsidering geographically because of the mismanagement & poor leadership, too much red tape, too much violence, what is there really to be positive about anymore, i mean you can try unless your very well privileged & lucky & already made it to mount everst, even if i did manage to still hold thru & live the so called dream, what would be next?

I mean when you think about it do the masses really live & thrive like they use to back then, has there really been that much progression than claimed, because it seemed to have gotten alot more worse now. when you look at it alot of folks have became more hateful, alot more hesitant, more distant, less trusting, individualism increasing, too much vandalism, too much of our taxes being spent on military weaponry, too many wars being started by greedy & self centred leaders, alot more depression is rising, its just too much.

[Summer Rose]

Hi Karioshi

I can appreciate all that you have said and don’t disagree. 
I have lived most of the life you’ve described—university, climbing the corporate ladder, saving for a house, working only to pay the mortgage, and despair about the state of current affairs. 

Yet, at the same time, I have found magic in our world. 

For me, it’s in the laughter around the family dinner table. In a gentle touch between a grandfather and his grandchild. In a toddler running to greet you at the front door. In the feeling you get when someone you love hugs you.

In my experience, life is not about how much money you have or what you do for a living or how big your house is. In my view, if you can help someone to love, heal or shine that is magic. For others it might be caring for animals, writing prose, creating a sculpture or doing what they can to protect our planet.

Purpose provides meaning in our mad mad world.

Kind thoughts to you

[Karioshi]

• Hello Summer, thanks for getting back to my post, when you say "protect the planet", what exactly do you mean by that as i dont quite understand?

Is love even a thing or is that a social mental construct, now im not trying to attack you in any way im just trying to connect the dot's because if there was any such thing, take for unconditional love for say, you would love them for who they are, despite what they believed in, even if its against your construe's as long as theyre not harming anybody in any way, on the other hand when it comes to conditional love, which is the kind of world we live in today, theres alot of strings attached, you have to watch what you say to other people or it can cost you your job or status, you have to perform & act all the time to avoid judgement, you have to take on constant negative reinforcement in order to not fall bankrupt & be drafted out on the streets, youre pressured into doing favours for people who only to think highly of you if you do X Y Z.

Which leaves the question if we are such caring & loving individuals as we presume ourselves to be then why is it in our social whereabouts everything is going down a constant sprial, why does the atmosphere feel really bleak, you know there this japanese term where in order to know whats going on, its by reading the room, the air, the complextion on others faces, you can just tell if you're aware enough to pick up the pieces that people aren't okay as they make out to be, so if this world is full of love then why is the majority still miserable despite their accomplishments & fullfillments, you know i always hear the saying theres love in the air, when really all i see is fecade, you got homeless more & more homeless racking up with no where to go especially when they gave it their all, I mean who would of thought what was gonna happen next, of course nobody would wanna expect that, as it mirrors the constant failures that humanity refuses to solve till this day.

[Summer Rose]

Hi Karioshi

Yes, in my view and in my world, unconditional love exists. It exists, for example, right here.

Who could imagine a place full of thousands of diverse strangers from across the nation providing non judgmental unconditional support to each other? A place where everyone is welcome just the way they are? A place where ideas can be debated with care and concern for others?

Having said that, if you’re looking for humanity in the corporate world, stop. You will never find it there.

I spent years working at the executive level and made one true friend. I cannot say that I ever felt cared for or truly valued as a human being. My regret is that it took me so long to make a change.

But when I changed jobs, I found a new world. People who shared my values, outcomes that benefit the community and genuine collaboration.

If you’re not happy at work, I encourage you to look for a new environment to nurture your soul. Or you could take your skills and volunteer abroad—it’s a cliche but you can be the change you seek. Or start a small business and create the environment you seek. 

I agree that people are increasingly experiencing poor mental health and not everyone has love in their world. While acknowledging that I can’t change the world (and neither can you), I have found purpose in doing what I can within my means to help make a difference—volunteering with mental health organisations (including bb) and working with a foster child on a weekly basis to help keep him engaged with education. 
It is enormously fulfilling to extend unconditional love to a child who has never known it. This gives me a reason to want to “be here”, despite the world’s problems.

Perhaps you would like to consider joining bb’s volunteer arm or community advocacy group, Blue Voices? You have the ability to help others and from my experience it feels good.

Kind thoughts to you

P.S. When I mentioned people finding purpose in protecting the planet, I was referring to people who participate in activities—clean up Australia Day, recycling, animal rescue, advocacy—to help protect our environment.

[therising]

Hi Steven

It is said that part of our quest in life is to question, not just settle but question. If there is a need to question pretty much everything, then do that. You know you're on a significant quest when the questions come in thick and fast

• Why am I here? What's the point?
• Why do I suffer?
• What is wrong with people? What's the issue with society in general?
• Why does the world appear to be getting worse?

and the list goes on and on. 

While I don't have all the answers, I've found some. As a 55yo gal, I've only discovered the most significant revelations or answers for myself over the last handful of years, as a result of going deeper down the rabbit hole of greater self understanding. Gaining a greater understanding of how I work physically/biologically/chemically is one offshoot down that rabbit hole. To understand how I work mentally, in relation to inner dialogue, all the belief systems put into my head and so on is another offshoot. For me, the 3rd offshoot down that rabbit hole of greater self understanding would have to be the natural one, the one that helps explain the nature of things, including the nature of life. There are definitely intersecting points to be found down there that can offer 3 different takes or perspectives on one issue.

In an ideal world, the next generation enters and is taught to develop all the natural abilities they enter in with. You can observe these abilities in the majority of little kids, abilities you came into this world with. They involve a sense of wonder, a sense of the need to question and challenge, a sense of imagination/vision, a sense of knowing, a sense of injustice and so much more. Perhaps most important of all is a sense of feeling. Kids can try leading adults to 'come to their senses' (return to them) but more often than not that new generation is conditioned out of wondering about so much, questioning so much, challenging so much, imagining so many incredible things etc. They are taught to stop feeling so much (aka 'You're too sensitive. You need to toughen up'). Imagine being taught to feel in truly strategic ways, to feel the nature of a person, the nature of a situation, the nature of the job you're in, the nature of the path you're on and more. Then imagine being taught how to switch off from feeling a degrading person, to offer just one example. You can speak to them without feeling a damn thing. No need for 'toughening up', just a need to learn how to work the switch or how to work the volume dial (turning it down) like an absolute master.

I believe the ultimate challenge in life is to settle up, as opposed to settling or 'settling down'. The challenge is to constantly raise our self, raise our level of awareness/consciousness, raise the bar when it comes to certain goals, raise the kids we have and let them raise us, raise our ability to sense to new heights and so much more. If it is basically natural to sense so much, like we once did at such a young age, why not aim for and graduate to super natural. Why settle for basic?