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Anyone also triggered watching Lindsey Clancy trial?
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As both a young MH practitioner and patient myself it sucks being dismissed as a female. It sucks being seen as ‘emotional’ or ‘attention seeking’. It sucks having my concerns taken lightly till they escalate to the point of no return. And then when I end up in a bad state, having done harm to myself, they always blame me “why didn’t you tell us earlier?”
I saw how Lindsey was struggling and kept trying to reach out to her practitioners through multiple texts, calls and emails. Some time in my life, I’d been that desperate because it felt as if I was at the top of a rollercoaster, knowing I’ll plunge into the depths soon, but not knowing exactly when.
I was crying while watching the doctors smirking on the stand. They see us for less than an hour and we’re “just another patient”. Just another case file. Just another medical record. I wish the system could be better but I’m just a small fry. It is outside of my control. All I can do is feedback or complain about it.
just wanted a space to rant. Feel free to add on.
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Dear Venlavoices~
Welcome here to the Forum. The trial you spoke of is a tragedy, irrespective of any legal proceedings and ultimate findings.
I'm not going to discuss the ins and outs of legal practice but would agree with you that sadly many females are taken less seriously than males. True it is changing but not there yet, with some industries and workplaces simply having a totally inappropriate culture.
One thing that came out of that trial was the issue of Perinatal depression, which may include pregnancy and may last 12 months or longer after the birth, and can apply to males as well as females. It can be a very serious condition, fortunately PANDA (Perinatal Anxiety and Depression Australia) is a service devoted to these conditions in both women and men. If you, or a person you care about is in distress please contact them.
In addition Beyond Blue has easily understood information on these conditions.
Croix
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Hi venlavoices
My heart goes out to you so much as you become more and more conscious of the faults in certain systems and some of the faults in people's way of thinking. While becoming more and more conscious over time can be a wish of ours at some point in life, not a lot of folk talk about the challenges that come with such personal progress.
I've found one of the biggest questions when waking up to certain things can be 'How do I manage what I'm gradually waking up to/becoming more conscious of?'. As a 56yo gal, it's taken me decades to work this out and it's still definitely a work in progress. I'm far from being an expert at it. A few things that come to mind that I've found over time involve
- Understanding that I'm only part of the way there when it comes to waking up to something. What I mean is if I start to wake up to how depressing certain systems are, I can either remain at that level of consciousness or go 'next level' in better understanding those systems, how they came to be, why they exist, who may be working hard to better those systems, how they've made progress etc etc. What alternatives (to those systems) exist? Do I have access to some of the alternatives?
- Changing the way I see myself. A change in perception, when it comes to who we are and how we work, can make a massive difference at times. While having a history of facing periods in a depression, including one long term period of 15 years or so when I was much younger, I used to wonder 'What's wrong with me?'. It wasn't until my late 40s that I was led to consider 'How can there be anything 'wrong' with you if you have the ability to feel something depressing going on?'. The whole script was flipped at that point. Whether it involves mental factors such as depressing beliefs, inner dialogue etc, physical factors such a depressing vitamin or mineral deficiency or some other chemical deficiency or it involves what's basically soul destroying...if we're a natural born 'feeler' or 'sensitive', we're going to feel/sense something depressing going on. It's in our nature. The question becomes 'What exactly is it that I'm feeling/sensing?'.
- Finding the right people to raise me out of where I am is a must. I won't go to a GP if I'm facing what feels soul destroying. I won't go to a psychologist if what I'm facing feels like a depressing vitamin or mineral deficiency or physical issue. I won't go to someone who has a tendency to say 'You'll be right. You just need to get on with life' because those kinds of people never have a plan when it comes to how it's going to be right and you can feel that. Getting a feel for who our 'go to' people need to be is a must, otherwise we're left alone to work it out
Venlavoices, when I consider the extremes (regarding the following) it leaves me scratching my head at times. From one extreme there is a history of women being treated horrendously in regard to natural abilities. Whether that involves the ability to intensely feel some of the soul destroying elements of post natal depression in the lead up to being institutionalised and lobotomised or being set alight while being tied to a stake just for being able to sense intuitively, while being accused of 'reading people's minds', there have been plenty of insane practices in the past. To the other extreme, there have been generations of men who began as highly sensitive boys with the ability to sense so much, until they were conditioned out of that. A young boy cries with deep sadness to be met with 'Real men don't cry' or he expresses what can feel heartbreaking and told to stop being such a 'girl'. With the potential to become highly intuitive, there's sadly a super long history of boys being led to stop feeling or sensing so much. As men, they can be labelled as 'unfeeling' or 'insensitive'.
I've found that with becoming more conscious, there can initially be a major downshift before rising to next level. As we continue going next level in life, over and over again, life definitely has a roller coaster vibe to it.❤️
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