Older step children issues

Feelinglost3
Community Member

Hi everyone,

I have been a step mother to my husband's two daughters for nearly ten years and things still aren't great between myself and them.  They are aged 21 and 18.  When I first started a relationship with their Dad, they were aged 8 and 11 and we got along pretty well for about the first two years.  They clung to me quite quickly, as their Mum had mental health issues, so we had the girls full-time for the first four years.  Things started to go downhill when the eldest girl turned about 14 and then also started to have more contact again with her Mum.  The eldest girl went back to live with her Mum at this time, as she didn't like Dad's rules and then we continued to have the younger daughter until about two years ago.  Their Mum remarried a man that is wealthier than us, so both girls went back there so they could get on the money train of overseas holidays and having anything they want.

We don't have a lot of money, so we can't give them these things, but I have always showed them love and support, but I can see they really don't care about me.

At times they can be nice to me, but it is short lived and I am mostly still met with one word answers to any questions I ask them (e.g. how is Uni going? how is your boyfriend going? etc) and they leave me out of conversations and only include their Dad.  I just still feel that they don't respect me and it is getting to the point of them showing their rudeness to me that my parents and other people are noticing their behaviour.  I bring it up with my husband, but he just says that I take their behaviour towards me as being too personal and to just ignore it.

It really upsets me, to the point that, I think it will come between me and my husband.

I don't know what to do.  Is it bad of me to ask my husband that I don't want them to come over to our house very often?

Thank you for any advice 🙂

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melodica
Community Champion

Hello,

This sounds like a very upsetting issue for you. While I do not have advice, it sounds like a conversation with your husband could be needed, or perhaps some sessions with a professional to help. It is not good to tackle these issues alone, and I hope you can get some support.

Thanks so much Melodica for your reply 🙂

Pete66
Community Member

Frustrating for you.
But they are now young adults, many people their age will put a distance between themselves and their family as they go about learning about themselves. Trying to force the issue will not work. IMO you should still talk to them, but they are going to go their own way

Thanks so much Pete66 for your reply, I really appreciate it.

Yes, I agree that forcing the issue won't work and to hope that they will start finding their own lives.

Many thanks 🙂

RisingPhoenix84
Community Member

Hello there,

 

This is a tricky situation to be in. I hear your need for basic respect. I think it is great that you still show up with kindness and support to the girls. That is a reflection of your character, and I am sure your husband does see that. This situation is complicated as there are many people involved. The girls are also in their teenage years which also presents with other challenges such as pushing the boundaries and working out their own independence and identity, plus all the hormones that go with it!! I remember those days and at times I don't think I was easy to deal with and definitely pushed boundaries. 

Sometimes it is important to remind ourselves what we have control over, our own thoughts, feelings, behaviour how we choose to respond. We cannot change how others perceive us or their behaviour towards us. We can choose to be civil, kind and respectful however we have no control if the other person chooses that response towards us. I know it is awkward and feels uneasy at times, but we also do not know what is going on in their own inner world.

 

I will reveal something about myself that may give you some perspective. I too came from a separated family. No matter what partner was involved in my father or mother's life, I never allowed myself to get close to them, there was always a wall, simply because they were not my mother or father, not because I did not like them personally, they were always kind, respectful and considerate. I just couldn't allow them in emotionally like that because I felt in some ways maybe I was being disloyal to my parent. This is my personal experience and may not necessarily apply to your situation, however, may provide some perspective so you do not take their behaviour or lack of warmth personally. If it was you or another person, I imagine the response would be the same from them.

All you can do is continue to be you and treat them like you would any guest that comes into your home. 

 

You can choose how much you engage with them and when to take some time out for yourself. 

 

Focus on your relationship with your husband. All you can do is open up to him and it is up to him to address if there is any disrespect and to instill some gentle boundaries.  I also encourage you to maybe get some support eg counselling and some social support outside of this family (friends, work colleagues, relatives). I wish you all the best. 

Thank you so much RisingPhoenix84 for your reply 🙂

Your words are very wise and they are things I need to remember when dealing with the girls.

I really appreciate your personal perspective and it is something I hadn't considered before.

Many thanks for your help with my issue! 🙂

Most welcome, I am glad the perspective is helpful. Have a lovely day 🌻

therising
Valued Contributor

Hi Feelinglost3

 

The girls sound blessed to have you as their step mum, someone who is supportive, thoughtful, caring and more and most importantly someone who is willing to open their mind. While you wonder how the relationships changed, how they can be improved, how you can manage setting boundaries regarding respect etc etc, your mind is not fixed around any 'THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE' mentality. You are wonderful, full of wonder. They're lucky girls, to have someone so wonderful in their life.

 

Labels and age aside (so no status of 'Step mum' or age), sometimes a lot can come down to the nature of people and how they tick. When money can buy a certain type of excitement and people (whether they be fifteen or fifty) want to feel excitement, it can be hard to compete with the kind of excitement that only money can buy. Whether people grow out of that and begin to look for excitement in other ways can depend on the nature of the person and the various influences in their life. 

 

Again, whether 15 or 50, it's fair to question whether a person is reasonable or not. Leading them to become more reason able can depend on a lot of things, including how we approach each person. This is what I've found for myself. Btw, I will never seek reasons from an unreasonable person. I figure I may as well go and bang my head against a wall, as it would be more productive 😅. Asking the girls to be more reason able, able to give you reasons for the lack of connection is fair. Given the way they treat you, it's also fair to expect a valid answer, as opposed to 'I don't know'. Whether they behave this way 1)on purpose, 2)they do it without being fully conscious or 3)they just don't care one way or the other, the reason will depend of the kind of boundaries set. 1)'If you come in here to purposely treat me like I don't exist, don't come or come and expect that I'll show discontent with you being here'. 2)Pull them up if they overstep a boundary into a less conscious state, regarding the way they treat you. 3)Their father needs to take responsibility in leading them to show more care, if they won't listen to you. He's one of their primary guides in life and needs to guide them thoughtfully and constructively while teaching them different ways to care (aka 'life skills').

 

I think if someone's behaviour impacts us personally, it's hard not to take it personally. I've found the remark 'Don't take it personally' to be a way of someone letting themself or others off the hook. 'I don't have to take responsibility for that person's behaviour' and/or 'That person doesn't have to take responsibility for their behaviour', instead 'You, don't take it so personally. You take responsibility for their behaviour, by managing the emotions that result from their behaviour'. It kind of reminds me of the remark 'Stop being so sensitive'. While such a remark used to bring me down, these days I tend to think 'No, you got it all wrong. If you were less insensitive, we wouldn't have a problem. Why do I need to be the person working on dulling my senses while you could be doing the kind of work that leads to being able to sense in greater ways?'. 

 

I'm wondering whether you could use one of your super powers to somewhat change the nature of the relationship you share with the girls. What if you led them to a greater sense of wonder, instead of you being the only one to wonder about so much. What are some of the things they like to wonder about? For example, if one of them likes wondering about 'woo woo' stuff, for example (which is personally my cup of tea), leading them to take you on a bit of a guided tour of that rabbit hole can be a real conversation starter, instead of starting with 'How's work going?'. 'I wonder how quantum physics relates to woo woo stuff' could be a lead in. Or maybe 'Do you ever wonder where in the world you'd love to live if you had the chance and what you'd do if you lived there?'. If they enjoy imagining, lead them to imagine.