Feeling helpless

imdone
Community Member

I am a 52 year old women,  married for 25 years. I'm going through peri menopause and it's really messing with me. Besides that, my husband,  who I love very much, has just retired and thinks that gives him the green light to drink everyday, gamble and now has taken to also smoking pot every night. It's medical pot, but whatever.  I've tried to tell him how I feel about his drinking etc.. but he claims that he's doing nothing wrong.  For context we have had major struggles our whole marriage with his drinking and gambling.  I'm at a loss, I'm so unhappy at the moment,  I feel deflated,  everytime I mention anything it's a huge fight. I really don't know what to do, I feel so depressed. 

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therising
Valued Contributor

Hi imdone

 

My heart goes out to you as you face so many challenges in your life right now. To have a partner who you can't share your feelings with, while being really heard at the same time, definitely doesn't make things any easy. 

 

With drinking and smoking pot, it can definitely be challenging to live with someone whose nature can change so dramatically while under the influence. The person you love is no longer that same person. They become someone who can't see reason or refuses to listen to reason. They can also become someone who'll fight for the right to not have to give reasons. In other words, they become largely unreasonable. I learned a long time ago not to expect a reasonable conversation with my husband when he's been drinking to the point of being different levels of drunk. I actually tend to manage his nature as though he's a different person. I'd say the thing that saved my sanity involved becoming more self focused. When the following types of questions come to mind, it's time to really consider them with great thought

  • 'Would I rather spend time arguing with an unreasonable person or spend that time researching ways in which I can develop myself?'
  • 'Would I rather spend time with someone who can't manage a stimulating conversation or would that time be better spent with folk who I can share mental development with?'
  • 'Would I rather spend time wishing my partner was different or would it be more constructive for me to find new differences for myself, perhaps developing a sense of adventure?'

and the list goes on.

 

I suppose the ultimate question comes down to 'How much time do I want to spend with a retired pot smoking drinker and how would that time serve me?'. It's not necessarily about splitting up, more so about how you want to constructively live your life while you live together.

 

When it comes to the gambling side of things, it would be more than fair to say to your husband 'We need to sit down and have a conversation about how much you can afford to spend on gambling, now that we've no longer got that income we had before retirement'. 

 

It sounds like your and your husband's visions are very different, for sure. While his is perhaps one of liberation or a sense of freedom and excitement, yours is one that obviously feels fearful to you and depressing. That's not good and it's not fair on you. When it comes to visions, I had a revelation a few months back that really surprised me. While I may only drink a couple of times a year, I noticed that last time I drank that I couldn't imagine/visualise no matter how hard I tried and I couldn't hear my usual sage-like guiding inner dialogue. I thought 'My god, I've gone 'blind' and 'deaf' (in a way). And then I realised 'This is what my husband experiences. No wonder he can't see what I'm talking about and he can't hear the part of him that would be encouraging him to make the wisest decisions'. I hope that last bit helps shed some light.

Thanks for the reply,  it just pisses me off to the point where I feel like giving up. He doesn't listen to a word I say about any of it..he almost has a sense of entitlement because he just retired. I feel so defeated. I love him so much, but can't see a good future if it stays like this.

So true, insightful. 

I went along to Al anon meeting & found very helpful. They are just groups of people effected by someone who has alcohol use disorder - (they call it now) it's not therapy but... You are around others who are experiencing similar things you are. Have a look at Al anon website there are meetings all over Australia. I do feel for you. I often phone life line or a womens line for support. Also your able to get a mental health plan from your GP & see a psychologist 10x a yr. I've found speaking to a supportive person helps enormously. Your husband is not being that person & you need support. Big hug for you. 

Hi imdone

 

I think we all have a sense of self entitlement to some degree but with boundaries. The 'boundaries' part is really important. Whether it's an emotional boundary, a time based boundary, a financial boundary or some other boundary, there are lines that are important to not cross because then we're impacting our relationship with another person (overstepping their boundaries). I imagine if your husband was to celebrate his liberation from working by announcing 'I'm going to drink 'til my heart's content for an entire month and then that's it', maybe you could live with that in a variety of ways because there's an obvious line in the sand, time wise. You could look forward to reconnecting in a month. At the moment he's given you nothing. There's no cut off point to look forward to, perhaps leading you to imagine his plan as never ending. 

 

Instead of focusing on the drinking, I'm wondering if you've asked him 'So, what are we looking forward to doing in retirement at this point? What can you see us doing in a month's time?'. Maybe he's got zero plans, other than drinking, gambling and smoking pot. If he was single, fair enough. Whatever floats his boat. He could do it for the rest of his life if he wanted to. But he's not single and has a responsibility to maintain the relationship and keep it fueled or interesting to some degree. Btw, we don't lost interest for no good reason. 

 

I can recall a few years back sitting alone in one of my meditations. In desperation, I asked 'the powers that be' (whatever they are) 'What do I do to manage my relationship with my husband?'. What suddenly came to mind was not what I expected, 'Leave him alone'. I was expecting something sage-like or some amazing 'fix all'. Nup, it was 'Leave him alone', so I did. After some days of being left alone (to enjoy drinking and watching tv outside of work), he came looking for me. Whether it was out of boredom or something else, who knows. After a few times of this happening, the revelation hit me like a ton of bricks, 'He only comes looking for me when it serves him'. What the hell?! I pointed this out to him while informing him 'I refuse to be in a relationship that is largely self serving, it's just not healthy and I feel it as being enraging and depressing'. A rage filled depressing relationship's definitely not a good one, that's for sure. If I hadn't left him alone, I would never have woken up to the nature of the relationship. I think it's perfectly fair to say to your husband 'If you have no plans in retirement to keep this relationship interesting, I'm just going to lose interest. I can love you and still lose interest at the same time, while you continue to do whatever serves you. I warn you, if I start losing interest while telling you I'm bored with this relationship, don't be surprised'. 

 

It's tough being married to an addict who you love, especially when you're constantly shifting your boundaries for them, enabling them to live the life they want. At some point it becomes a matter of 'What the heck am I doing to myself?'. You can start to lose yourself in the process.❤️

Very true. Thank U for sharing. 

Hi imdone, I’m saddened to hear what you’re experiencing right now. Sadly, speaking from experience I know that the more free time your husband has the worse things will become. I put my wife through hell and I was still working. Idle hands are the devil’s workshop. You’re not defeated, but your husband’s behaviour isn’t sustainable for your future happiness either. I apologise if this is too direct, and I hope things get better for you.