Icicle

[wantalife]

3 to 4 days without sleep is a good basis for pyschosis............... just a thought

[Cornstarch]

Hey Icicle,

Only just seen this thread. I hope you are OK.

I have lots of experience with the psychotic class of illnesses, you can talk to me if you like, but no pressure whatsoever. My Mum has schizophrenia, but in the family is Bipolar, Anxiety, Depression, PTSD/Chronic Dissociation.

I too had a shocking time with lack of sleep recently. I felt like I was down the rabbit hole with Lewis Carol. Didn't see any pink elephants but thought I might be a few hours away from meeting Alice if I didn't get to the hospital. It's terrifying and not to mention exhausting on the body and mind.

You have to get sleep. I don't take any benzos or sleeping tablets but sometimes in an emergency they are appropriate. Could you call the 24/7 Mental Health Access Team on 1800-011-511 and ask them to come to you?

Your safety is the most important thing. You've mentioned that you posted on behalf of mates that are using. Maybe it is best that you assure your own mental health is seen to first, or you could voice your concerns to the mental health team when you call them. I'm not sure about the red tape around that, and the legality side of things, maybe they have to reach out themselves. Don't shame yourself with the drinking, you're doing amazing under the circumstances. It's must be hell on earth,

Take care mate,

Corned Brain Fritters

[Doolhof]

Two decades enduring the ups and downs of mental health is enough to drive anyone to drink.

For me the fluctuation of feelings and emotions relating to mental health illnesses can be so darn debilitating, frustrating and surprising at the same time.

One moment I can be enjoying a beautiful sunrise, then the very next moment I feel like I am in a very dark place.

Depression can be like the wind, it may blow on us gently or be still, other days it can rage like a hurricane.

Thank goodness we have this forum where we can share our thoughts and feelings.

Cheers from Mrs. Dools

[geoff]

hello Nick, it's not far that you should be judged by needing to drink alcohol, it's a choice that have needed to do, just as I did when in depression, although there will be other people who make a judgment condemning your actions but they don't understand how deeply you are suffering, why you are suffering and probably don't want to know, but criticise you as being an alcoholic.
That maybe so but you aren't drinking because you enjoy it, you are drinking to try and numb these terrible thoughts that keep reoccurring everyday, and it maybe not the right choice, but boy when depression keeps pounding down on you day in and day out, it's a decision you have choosen.
I was no different and in hindsight now I know that I shouldn't have, but I'm saying that now because I believe I have overcome my depression, so the thought pattern is completely different.
I did reply to your other post asking whether you were going into hospital or rehab so now I know, but one thing that I want you to ask those incharge is 'how to cope once I am let out', because you will be put back into the same situation as what you are now in. Geoff.

[Starwolf]

You are right, free will is not easy to access because we are conditioned beings. The fact that you are here around the forums means that the will allowing you to make positive choices is still there. Something well worth nurturing...

Sleep deprivation is a form of torture. Sometimes, taking the occasional sleeping tablet can avoid aggravation of stressful symptoms. Like other decisions, a matter of weighing personal pros and cons.

Thank you for your kind appreciation (I can't think of a better way to spend some of whatever time I have). Your own willingness and inclination to help shows your big heart. In spite of personal difficulties, you are still thinking up ways to support others in need. Please remember to extend that kindness to yourself too. You deserve it.

[wantalife]

Thanks guys

What started as a specific topic has brought some core issues together and close knit comportment among metal health and most probably will become more intertwined as generations progress, be AOD, Narcissism, Gambling, fixated to video games or any internet to avoid the outside world, (Outside of the Norm) and if if I expand on what Geoff mentioned in which I may be wrong but hit a nerve...."it blocks out the pain" it does...it seems to make life easier at lowest or highest points.

Make your high's higher as you know a low is soon to follow or for some just give the will power to leave your bed in the morning.

I walked 4km from hospital after a 3 days stay for non related alcohol problems due to a very unrelated substance use nature however when a staff member found out I had psychiatric background. I was treated like garbage.

I left of my own accord and walked home, collapsed 3 times on my way.

I was however admitted elsewhere a few days later, and admitted to the surgical ward immediately.

A Nurse noticed cuts and scars, notified the Doctor, I explained my life story and believe he almost had tears in his eyes as I could see he understood.

There is a new generation of understanding with mental illness it just needs time to filter through.

I had Psych Triage came and visited me in the surgical ward daily and wanted to admit me post my surgical stay in the general ward that was for 7 days.

I've accepted help in which I'm comfortable with but times are definitely changing and those that used to look down on mental illness be it the mildest to extreme.

will soon be seen as the same as those who would look down on a human being with any other illness such as Arthritis, or a Diabetic etc.

It's left me feeling very humbled that evolution is not standing still.

[Just Sara]

Hi WAL; (Nick)

Just found your post and am very pleased you feel humbled and in good company.

I do worry about you, but that's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. I'm sort of like a proud parent watching you evolve. You're a beautiful tortured soul who takes in the words of those who care about you here on BB.

I don't know what else to say, except I believe in you and will NOT walk away without telling you I care.

Warm and kind thoughts...Sara xo (Dizzy)

[blondguy]

Hey brother

I had no idea you were a tennis ball in a tumble dryer........(doing it so really hard)

I am so sorry......

We are online and just noticed your post....

Here for you

(Hugs) Paul

[Doolhof]

Hi,

Some people, medical as well, just don't seem to understand mental health, where as others do.

For some it may be that until they actually experience mental health issues they may never have compassion or understanding for a sufferer of mental health.

Then there are people who do have mental health issues, but can not understand the same illness in other people!

Hopefully you will now receive all of the assistance you need for your mental and physical health.

Unfortunately as humans we are not always able to look past the history of a person nor how they present themselves.

That is one of the wonderful things about this forum, everyone is anonymous, yet everyone counts as being an important and valued person.

Cheers all from Dools

[Kazzl]

Hey Nick, just want to add my very best wishes for you. I'm glad you found compassion and help in the system. You sound better than you were. I'm willing you on mate.

Kaz

[Starwolf]

So relieved you found the understanding and compassion you so much deserve.

You are right, change is happening. Our impatience with perceived slowness of evolution seems to come from the fact that our human lifespan is short. We would all like to see tangible progress in our lifetime. I hope this latest development will bring on a positive new beginning.

My best wishes are with you.