suicide is a western phenonemon

[Crabby]

For many years i have wondered why suicide is such a bad subject with people/ why is it such a taboo. why if a person feels so marginalized and unworthy why cannot they end their life and not have to face x amount of years and torment. my passing solves my problem so why should i worry about others who will feel so put out by my passing for about a week and then move on. This is i feel a western idea .

interested to get an idea from others .

[white knight]

Hi, welcome

I dont think it matters where it comes from or where the highest number is. 

A week of mourning isnt very long for a traditional level of love people feel for us. My older brother passed by his own hand in 1978 at 26yo and that event left many of us in grief for many months plus the regular thought since then some 46 years later.

You said "why if a person feels so marginalized and unworthy"... that statement tells me everything I need to know about your current state of mind. So let me say, I've made a serious attempt and had on again off again thoughts for the last 30 or so years. A big revelation was only 13 years ago that I was bipolar and recently told I'm under the autism spectrum... these things all made sense when I reviewed my life. So I'm wondering whether you need help to identify some disorder that leads you to feel the way you do? If so your mentality could turn around and believe me- it can turn around. When it does turn around you begin to value things in life usually things that dont involve expense. My ex wife once said "Tony, when you see a bee gathering nectar and really value that experience, then you will begin to live life better". She was right.

Valuing things comes in all shapes and sizes so to speak. To value a 10 minute conversation with a homeless person or to gaze on a beach at the ocean or to serve soup on xmas day.... to write a poem? Draw a flower? 

Have you had any interests like that in your life at all? I'd love to read it.

"Laughter, vision, appreciation and care for others and yourself... thats the goal."

I hope to hear from you. Repost anytime I'm here daily.

TonyWK

[therising]

Hi Crabby

I think the topic of suicide means different things to different cultures. In some religious cultures it's seen as one of the ultimate sins yet in a culture that supports assisted suicide, based on terminal illness, it means something altogether different. In a culture that sees it as being something shameful, it's judged in one way yet in a more philosophical culture it can be spoken about honestly and openly in a far more analytical way, along with the questions 'Why are we here?' and 'Why do we come to suffer so much at times?'. The kind of response you get, on the topic, all depends on who you speak to and what kind of culture they come from.

For myself, it's something very personal, based on my own experience. With an attempt back in my mid 20s (I'm a 53yo gal now), I can understand what one of the worst days of our life can feel like. Of course, everyone's worst day will be based on different factors but complete and utter despair is complete and utter despair, no matter how we got there. There is no feeling that compares to it. To discuss that feeling is so important because no one should be left to feel it alone or make complete sense of it alone.