physical pain from mental health?

[jedlim]

Good evening,

I'm not exactly sure why I'm here. But I guess I've acknowledged that stating how I feel and what I'm thinking might help in the matter.

God, I hate myself so much! I'm such a loser. I have no friends. I'm an incel. I don't have achievements. I can't even get simple things done correctly and/or efficiently. I'm not smart; quite the opposite. I'm ugly. And, worst of all: I've have no direction or purpose in life. I'm not even saying these things out of seeking sympathy, I just wanted to mention them just to give my current situation, furthermore, to justify why I'm very depressed.

Is it even normal to feel physical pain because of your mental health? besides feeling tired all the time, and aching facial muscles from crying too much. Seriously, what the heck!? I sleep on average 2-3 hours a night just because of this!

[ErinB]

Seeking help is an achievement. Waking up every day is an achievement. Society puts so much pressure on people to "succeed" and has conjured up such a twisted idea of what success looks like. You are doing the best you can and that is good enough.

I'm sorry you're feeling so many unpleasant things about yourself. I know what it's like to just want to get out your feelings without people telling you the opposite of how you feel. It can be hard when your beliefs about yourself are so deep.

Our mental health affects our physical health and vice versa so experiencing physical pain because of your mental health makes sense. Maybe you could try to identify what the physical pains are and find a way to address them and work on treating them?

[therising]

Hi jedlim

I believe you to be a naturally intelligent person because you've asked a highly intelligent question many don't ask: 'Is it even normal to feel physical pain because of your mental health?' Yes, it can be normal. This is why legit holistic practitioners exist. They deal with the mental, physical and natural ties of dis-ease or unease. They acknowledge that dis-ease can lead to disease. In some cases, where people begin to let go of long term mental dis-ease, they can experience a myriad of physical symptoms during this recalibration or reformation process. While quantum physicists have only recently come to understand that we're complex interactive systems of energy, traditional/holistic view has pointed to this for thousands of years. If you're interested in a more modern angle, have a bit of a peek into the amazing world of epigenetics. I believe Bruce Lipton and Joe Dispenza to be 2 guys who break a lot of it down into relateable terms. Epigenetics offers a lot on the mind/body natural connection.

The statements you make are questionable, in a positive way:

• I hate myself. Which self do you hate?
• I'm a loser. What have you lost?
• I have no friends. Do you know who you want as friends? Are you looking for quality or quantity? Personally, I'm incredibly picky and I've been criticised for it. I'm not a numbers gal!
• Being an incel, though frustrating, can provide opportunity. Strange question but 'If you were told you would soon meet your future partner, how would you prepare for them?' Many folk don't put enough thought into themselves or their relationships, which explains why many relationships are doomed from the beginning
• I don't have achievements. I believe the greatest achievement anyone can obtain is self understanding. This continues to be my own greatest achievement. It's what not only led me out of 15 years of depression, it's exactly how I raise myself well beyond my depression. I do believe you are on such a path of achievement. For a start, you have come here, asking a naturally intelligent question, from people who offer friendship
• I can't even get simple things done... Do you wish to master attention to detail and time management?
• I'm ugly. Who led you to believe this?
• Direction and purpose. Seeing such things can change constantly, could your current direction and purpose involve the path you're now on, exploration of self, your natural self; not the self that's currently in pain?

Always question that which leads to pain.

🙂

[Jeeb]

Hey jedlim, been stuck in a similar situation myself, it ain't fun.

Basically yes, it is.

From what little bits I know of the science of depression, what's happening is that you're thinking negative thoughts and having negative emotional reactions associated with them. These worries are so powerful that the subconscious parts of your brain which regulate your body are responding to them as existential threats, releasing various stress hormones. This is in turn making you feel physically distressed constantly, and prompting further negative thoughts/emotions ect. It's a vicious cycle you're trapped in that's running your mind and body into the ground.

Ive had many nights of lying in bed feeling as though I was physically dying for no real reason, and still most days I'm aware of being sore, stiff, or in some kind of constant mild physical discomfort due to my compulsive negative thinking and emotional reactions (on top of some bad lifestyle habits). You're definitely not alone in this

If you want to feel better, its good to first give your body time to recover, and the best way to do that is to start getting out of those thoughts you listed which are likely triggering the reaction.

[Guest_4643]

Hi jedlim, welcome to the forums. I'm proud of you for having the courage to join and share your story, good on you.

You're not a loser, you're not an incel, you do have achievements, you do have friends, you're not ugly and you do have direction and purpose in life, even if you're unsure of what it is at the moment, which is normal. And you shouldn't hate yourself although I understand because I hate myself inside and out too, so I know how hard it is.

Yes it's normal to have physical pain with mental health, I also heard that having physical pain can possibly lead to mental health issues, such as having chronic pain. So yes it's common. I hope you feel better and can find support here.

Take care, I'm thinking of you. Feel free to reach out to me anytime, anywhere on the forums, I'm always here.

Tayla