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Sophie_M Sleep and Mental Health
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Many of us have struggled with bouts of troubled sleep, and needless to say, these periods of nocturnal restlessness can be utterly overwhelming and exhausting. Sleeplessness can filter into every aspect of our lives: our ability to be present, remem... View more

Many of us have struggled with bouts of troubled sleep, and needless to say, these periods of nocturnal restlessness can be utterly overwhelming and exhausting. Sleeplessness can filter into every aspect of our lives: our ability to be present, remember things, regulate our emotions, or to feel excited and energised… it can change the way we think and feel in such a significant and impactful way. Whether it’s due to big life changes, global pandemics, financial or work stressors, health concerns (like menopause), how much ‘you’ time you have, or even unprocessed emotions you weren’t aware were there – so many things can impact how you sleep. All of this goes to show that not only do your daily habits, routines, and experiences play a huge role in maintaining healthy sleep cycles, but so does your mental health. And frustratingly enough, your sleep also impacts and informs your mental health and daily habits. Like most things, it’s a very easy cycle to fall into. So, it’s imperative that we are gentle and compassionate with ourselves on our journey to understanding what is making us so hypervigilant and unable to rest in the first place. Studies show that journaling or mindfulness practices throughout the day, healthy food, movement, sunshine, connection with loved ones, and support from health professionals can help us to feel more grounded and able to rest. But we are curious… what has worked for you? When do you notice that your sleep is most affected vs. when you get the best rest? And is there a way you could practice regulating your nervous system more throughout the day to help promote better sleep at night? We would love to hear your thoughts! Let us know if you have any questions and be sure to check out our page on ‘Sleep and Mental Health’ for more guidance and insight into a more supported and restful night’s sleep: Sleep and mental health - Beyond Blue - Beyond Blue Looking forward to hearing from you! Kind regards, Sophie M

Just Sara A Bouquet for Pearls - share your appreciation for other members
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Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful word... View more

Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful words. I hope this thread stays active through members giving out praise regularly to people they feel deserving, and therefore keep generosity of spirit alive within the pages of BeyondBlue Forum. My bunch of Red Roses (my choice) goes to Wishful for the following sentence; 'Personally, I see no reason to be praised in me, but I'm learning that seeing through the eyes of others can be more accurate!!' I so hear you Wishful. Just beautiful... Try to keep your leading comments short to focus on 'their' words. Choose specific flowers (or a gift if you like) to present to them. Sign off respectfully and sincerely. I hope this takes off... Spreading the love...Sara

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Muttley Knocking down the brick wall
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I am after some advice. I have built a brick wall around myself in regards to my anxiety an depression. I realise I need help and am seeing a psychologist as well as being on medication. I have only just started to see the psychologist and I am scare... View more

I am after some advice. I have built a brick wall around myself in regards to my anxiety an depression. I realise I need help and am seeing a psychologist as well as being on medication. I have only just started to see the psychologist and I am scared that he won't want to help me if I keep the brick wall up. I was abused as a child (sexually and verbally) and built the wall to protect myself. How can I take the wall down so that the real me will shine and I can get my self esteem back? Thanks.

MyahLove1 Music is my saviour
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Like i said previously, this is my first time here and if i'm posting to much I apologise. I was just wondering if others felt like music was their saviour? It doesn't matter what genre, what artist or what band? But does it feel like music takes you... View more

Like i said previously, this is my first time here and if i'm posting to much I apologise. I was just wondering if others felt like music was their saviour? It doesn't matter what genre, what artist or what band? But does it feel like music takes you away to another place where the depression can't get you?? x

B_rad71 I didn't believe it but things can get better.
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I know its been a long time since i last posted. I was in a bad place. And i didn't know how to get out of it. So i did what i thought i would never do. I reached out to my GP. With his help i managed to see a phycologist and eventually a psychiatris... View more

I know its been a long time since i last posted. I was in a bad place. And i didn't know how to get out of it. So i did what i thought i would never do. I reached out to my GP. With his help i managed to see a phycologist and eventually a psychiatrist. I started on some medication which has transformed my depression from a crippling disease of my mind to a small blip on my personal radar. Dont get me wrong. Im not cured of this illness. But im so much better. I followed peoples advice. Grace gave me inspiration to visit the NGV which i did. I took my camera back out and started taking photos again. I got away in my campervan to Lorne a couple of times and enjoyed being close to the beach and close to nature. And i tried to rediscover myself. And for the most part i was fairly successful. So yeah i still have doubts. And i still fear that night that i dont get any sleep and then i slip back into that depression. But its been about 3 months or a bit more now and i havent reached that place again. I will admit, i do think that day will come, im still scared of it. Im still not ready to reach out for help dealing with the abuse i suffered. Thats a pain that needs to wait a bit longer. But i know now that things can get better. I have been able to reconnect with a couple of people in my life. And with my work. And most importantly, with myself. So for anyone who is at rock bottom, or getting close to it, keep this in mind. Things can better. Things can change. And people can change. If you dont know what else to do or where to turn, then find at least one person, GP, friend or family. Even this forum. And make that your starting place. If you dont reach out, you will never grasp that hand that is waiting to help you up. I know for many people it seems just out of reach. Always out of reach. But once you grasp it, it can pick you up. Thanks to the forum and its supporters for your king words and support and suggestions. Although i didnt post i still followed along. Take care everyone.

white knight Ostracised? whos fault is it?
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I love clarity. Clarity leads to understanding leading to peace and progress. I've long wanted clarity in my world of being ostracised. Three auto clubs in 25 years and all three end up ostracising me from their cliques that resemble predator vulture... View more

I love clarity. Clarity leads to understanding leading to peace and progress. I've long wanted clarity in my world of being ostracised. Three auto clubs in 25 years and all three end up ostracising me from their cliques that resemble predator vultures on a beach of insanity. Who's fault is this? Based on the obvious that many of us have extreme behaviour in that some of our actions and words are outside the normal range of commoners we are seen as different, weird and many actions/words, as they originate from our own decisions there is someone that is obvious to blame- us. Clubs rely on character. "Joe is a top bloke because he's funny", "Mary is wonderful because she always cooks a slice and is the quiet type". "Tony is a trouble maker, always finding conflict". They often bandy around the word "family" to describe their group only to find at the cemetery gates who their real friends are. And that leads me to a point. We the extreme ones have good points. We are usually extreme where it matters, kindness, compassion, loyalty. Whereas our toxicity is seen as- no fun to be with,weird,trouble maker,confused,quiet type or rowdy not in between,always talking about illness, meds and treatment.Clearly the negatives in many eyes outweigh the positives. Who's fault is it? Well based on the phrase "forgive them for they dont know what they do" the masses can be forgiven IMO. Yes, most dont want to make effort to understand, accept and support us. It's too much work when all they want to do is have fun. A physical injury/disability of a member is in their face, they can easily and wantingly assist. But mental issues are too hard. Forgive them, yes we can, it isnt easy but it is the only way to move along in our word filled with enough troubles for us to balance in our daily lives. What about us? If they are not to blame then we are to blame? We are to blame for inheriting an illness?Also for odd behaviour? And for our illness that engulfs us so much that we cannot stop mentioning it? We are to blame for our childhood? It's all our fault surely? No it isnt. We are not at fault. We are not one of "them" that fit in.And the harder you try to get in that inner core of popularity the worse the problem gets.You can sneek in though,if you are the very quiet type, speak little and smile a lot. I have a good friend that does that and he has deep depression.Members of two clubs. So clarity of this is now clear. No one at fault. And forgive them for "they dont know what they do."

renmon What's right with us all - sharing our greatest stengths and what is valuable about each of us
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Hi everyone, It's clear from this forum that we are all struggling with our own battle against mental illness and life in general. I find it difficult to read some of the messages on here at times and would love to share what is going right in our li... View more

Hi everyone, It's clear from this forum that we are all struggling with our own battle against mental illness and life in general. I find it difficult to read some of the messages on here at times and would love to share what is going right in our lives despite all the pain we are in. I hope that this would also help us all to remember that life is ever changing and what feels unbearable at one time will not last forever. Please join me in sharing what you really like and love about yourself and the wins you are having in your life. Even if you don't want to share, you might read this and have a very small mental shift away from the dark thoughts and feelings you have. What's right in my life? I have two amazing children who are incredibly bright and emotionally resilient beyond their years, thanks a lot to sharing my experiences with them and them seeing you can live well despite feeling terrible at times. My friends and family take strength from seeing me get through the difficult periods of battling my depression and anxiety. Somehow I can always maintain a sense of humour through anything, including laughing at myself when I'm really unwell. Sometimes I have to give in to the way I feel, but I never give up and that is a huge achievement. Today I cleaned my house and got my children to school on time and I ate breakfast and lunch. So today was a big win for me. Every day I manage to continue breathing is a win for me. I look forward to hearing what is wonderful about each of you and what happened in your day that felt right. Even if it is something as small as you felt a beautiful breeze or a ray of sunshine or you decided to live another day. Wishing you all loving kindness.

Violet_Eyes I will be respectful towards those who are trying to help me
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Dear Violet Diary, my day started strangely sluggish. It took me along time to wake up, by saying that I was awake but my body felt exhausted for no apparent reason. I dragged myself out of bed at around 8:30ish but I just felt tired, I laid thinking... View more

Dear Violet Diary, my day started strangely sluggish. It took me along time to wake up, by saying that I was awake but my body felt exhausted for no apparent reason. I dragged myself out of bed at around 8:30ish but I just felt tired, I laid thinking..Wtake up! I had a coffee with my two sisters who were nice for a change, no hip hop hooray but it was nice the tension was not in the air, I knew I had a lot to do so I tried to cope without taking any medication.I lasted until about 12ish then bang I was on fire, my family knew it because they see the change from myself not taking pills to taking pills.I went into productive mode & super cleaned the house,super cleaned myself & had my friend pick me up. I'm going to a mental health program tomorrow for the first time & I don't know what or how I should feel, I'm going hungover, drunk anyway. I know that's not the appropriate way to induct myself but I don't care....I obviously will be respectful towards those who are trying to help me.

Doolhof Good Morning Everyone
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It is such a beautiful morning! The birds are singing, the sky is a dark thundercloud blue/black and may hopefully bring us some rain later on today. I've planned some lovely events for today. I decided I will wear a dress to Church today, I am going... View more

It is such a beautiful morning! The birds are singing, the sky is a dark thundercloud blue/black and may hopefully bring us some rain later on today. I've planned some lovely events for today. I decided I will wear a dress to Church today, I am going to find a nice necklace and put on some make up to help me feel better. I will stay after Church and chat with a few people. Then I am off to have lunch with a couple of friends. I am always driving to them, but I will enjoy the scenery along the way, appreciate their friendship and our chatter. In the evening I am going to visit my sister for her Birthday and will see her family there as well, including my two beautiful nieces. It is going to be a wonderful day. I have so much to be thankful for. I wish all of you moments of happiness, joy, peace and the ability to decide how you will spend your days. Love and cyber hugs to you all, from Mrs. Dools

jeffersen Life of an accomplished actor (wearing the mask)
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I have known of the website for quite a while and finally got the nerve to post my own story in order to see if their is others running the same performance day in and day out. I am in my early 40's, married nearly 20 years and have 3 children. I pur... View more

I have known of the website for quite a while and finally got the nerve to post my own story in order to see if their is others running the same performance day in and day out. I am in my early 40's, married nearly 20 years and have 3 children. I pursued an education in order to better my life and familes and have a fairly successful career in government, lets say development. Through the timelines I have had several breakdowns, in which I eventually sought help from a GP and was on medication for 12 months with therapy (depression and anxiety). It was good to talk at therapy, however it did not really close any doors in my mind and medication made me feel vacant which is not a good idea when your in a public position that borders on tony stark style performances. I did not divulge my illness to my family (except my wife) or employer due to the stigma. It is unfortuate but the choice was to maintain a career and an image that I had worked at for years. To meet me you would think that I was outgoing, chatting and have a laugh, however I can maintain that composer during an episode when on the inside I would be a mess with tears running inside instead of out and go to peices in the car on the way home when no one was around. My experience with the illness has been living with a horrible inner voice, in which you learn as time goes along to identify when it will appear and how to control it. It is not unlike the term used by Winston Churchill ie living with a black dog...it is always their its just working hard everyday to keep it at bay/happy. How the depression came about is not easy to pin down, however I was raised in a disfunctional middle class family where my mother was an alcoholic. Jeckle and Hyde type. As I grew up I had problems with anger and empathy that resolved themselves, in which I formed a persona of the comic. A school teacher remarked once that I would not eventuate to much and my class mates thought I would be a comedian. This changed when I was a young man from finding love, losing love and entering a dark destructive world of alcohol and drugs. That ended after a few years and love was found again, in which I completely divulged myself in that environment and also concentrated on creating a new me. Professional, charismatic, helpful, good conversationalist etc. Running a performance with a prominent career made the wheels fall off a few times, however each time this was suffering in silence. The stigma of mental illness can destroy careers, especially a public servant/consultant as you can be held up like a knight at times. A mask was formed over the years, cracks appeared from time to time, however I also became a good actor/commelian. As mentioned, I haven't shared my illness with my parents, however I think they know deep down. They are elderly now so I do not see reason to present such a thing. My sister is an ageing drug addict who fried her brain along time ago and my brother I think has demons as well, however he presents the mans, mans persona. My inlaws think depression is crap even though they are both walking basket cases who need help (don't get me wrong I am very fond of them). My wife is an angel. She is aware of my illness and how I live with what would at times looks like two personalities. She keeps me in check (we are opposites). Those that live with the illness are aware of what I say when an episode appears ie you drive to work in tears every second day from self doubt voices running through your head or anxiety from being overwhelmed by to many tasks and responsibilities. However, the show must go on, you clean yourself up, tell your mind to stop it and you are great at what you do why else would you get asked to do it etc. Create positive re-inforcement. The downside to the illness for me is the distraction it creates. It is selfish as you end up living at times in your own void/world and you are not even aware half the time that it is happening. You shut yourself off from people and you find everyday conversions boring. One thing I have noticed over the years though is you can spot a fellow suffer easily as similiar characteristics become evident, especially for those that operate like an actor. I had a boss in a place I worked many years ago who was a sufferer and he was in a very high level position and he was an actor. He confided in me which is unusal for an executive level boss to do as he identified that I was as well and he made me aware how he survived. Down side was he abused alcohol which ended up destroying him as he would not get help due to the stigma. It still saddens me today when I think back as he was a lovely man. I had a friend approach me several years ago when they identified that they were a suffer and I gave them advice on how I survived. I did make them aware of the stigma for my reasons not to air my story outside of my home. He made all his firends aware of his illness and employer which has made him lose most of those so called old friends and his employer systematically found a means to get him made redundant. We still maintain a strong bond which I must say is one of the best you can have as it has the blokey flavour and also confidence which most men struggle with. The mask works for me, it is not perfect, it may even be unhealthy, however you have to remember their is a purpose. I put up the good fight daily from remembering what would be left behind if I was gone, and that is not fair and very selfish. I am of the mindset that this is a work in progress, like a painting that could take 20 years to finish. I am finding that my mind is having to now refocus on the little things as they have been missing for years ie smell the flowers, listen better to my children and give time out to myself ie play golf, exercise and join a club in order to meet and get involved with a vocation that can give meaning. Its not everything, but it is enough for now. I hope this provides some normality to others in their routines. ie your not alone.

white knight Your "other side" you might not know you have?
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I've written a manuscript I hope to get published one day. It is a true account of my time between 1977 and 1980 as a prison officer in the notorious Pentridge Gaol. Surviving in a gaol as a sensitive 21yo man was simply not possible.So automatically... View more

I've written a manuscript I hope to get published one day. It is a true account of my time between 1977 and 1980 as a prison officer in the notorious Pentridge Gaol. Surviving in a gaol as a sensitive 21yo man was simply not possible.So automatically I developed "another side", a man that fitted into that black uniform much easier, one that got on well with other officers and was able to carry out my duties like any other officer. I knicknamed him "Anthony" Knock off time and Tony would return. It occured to me this morning, what if you were in a trade/profession like call centres or sales and you had to carry out your work when in a depressed or anxious state? A publican, a shop assistant.How could you survive? Surely you'd develop a similar persona to enable you to remain in your job? I'd like to hear from anyone that has. Back to the gaol. I can recall internal arguments between Anthony and myself. One time there was a tragic event and I was in charge of that tier. Anthony yelled at me to 'disappear' as he knew I couldnt handle the real life drama. I did. I stood upon the upper tier with tears welling as Anthony went through the process of handling it all. A few years later within 6 months of each other I was present when a person had heart failure. Again Anthony came to the rescue, instantly carrying our CPR and thankfully they lived. To be frank, had Anthony not existed I dont think I could have handled those situations. So, those with mental illness, do you have another side? Is there another side that you are unaware of ...a mask worn daily? And the BIG question- can you utilise that mask to your advantage to fit into society and the workplace? I know in my last job (I'm retired) when I boarded my car in the morning my mask was put on immediately and taken off when I arrived home. No one that I had contact with during the day realised the real Tony. This was after 90 jobs spanning 40 years. 85 of those jobs I left because Anthony wasnt allowed to exist...I got rid of him in 1980 when I left the gaol job. I didnt like Anthony, he was sometimes nasty, manipulative and confronting....yeh no wonder he fitted into the gaol workplace. Now that I'm retired I dont need Anthony anyway. But in any workplace he would be handy. Can you don that mask to be another person at work returning to your normal self at will? I'd be interested if you can. Whether it takes a toll on you and whether your outer phony shield breaks down at work exposing your true self.

white knight Your environment- its effect on you
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Maybe I'm on the wrong tram on this. Maybe its because I was a country kid that was forced to grow up in the city, the western suburbs of Melbourne. Every year at xmas time we'd fly over to our relatives in Tasmania. We'd cart hay bales storing them ... View more

Maybe I'm on the wrong tram on this. Maybe its because I was a country kid that was forced to grow up in the city, the western suburbs of Melbourne. Every year at xmas time we'd fly over to our relatives in Tasmania. We'd cart hay bales storing them in a barn and milk cows. Collect walnuts from my pop and nanas tree, set rabbit traps and avoid snakes. Then late January I was back in the city. Talk about Mars to Earth and back. But I didnt realise the negative impact the city had on me. Finally in 1982 after touring the country in the RAAF and many jobs I purchased a bock of land in the country. I didnt own it for long but I realised when I visited that 20 acre block, that I was destined to live in the country. I found peace there and in the end it would prove (for me) that it was an essential part of my ability to maintain managed sanity. But alas, for many years financial pressure found me back to the city. I found the city too artificial, its concrete, bitumen and smiling faces flooding my brain where I could not determine trust nor fantasy. A place where you live on the edge of falling towards homelessness or rising to greatness...all depending upon luck...or bad luck. Eventually I found myself, in desperation, living in a country town of 1100 people but I had no work there so was forced to commute 90 minutes one way to the edge of the city. Take my word for it...45 minutes is the maximum you'd ever want to drive one way and you'd need a small diesel car for the task. One day I got a job nearby my country town.Then I could finally live and relax in my chosen environment where all the stresses of city living wasnt there. No parking meters, high rates, greater risk of crossing the road, less road rage, a slower pace all over, local shop keepers knowing your name. wow. Then the odd casual job carting in hay just like I did as a kid. When we try to get that "mix" right, you know, that one of therapy, regular doctors appointments,the right medication and a stable and supportive family and friends, we cannot forget our environment as one of the key components of our "formula" to recovery. And if this move was to have financial benefits then that would be a bonus.I've long advocated for those with depression to consider the possibility of giving up work, at least full time as the strain is too much to withstand. If you do consider it, look for a town 2000-4000 people enough for all the facilities. Just consider the benefits. Have to go now, gotta feed the Rosellas.