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Chris_B PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: 3 important tips to get the most out of this section
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Hi everyone, The Relationships & Family Issues section is one of the busiest here on our forums. It's also one of the areas where we find members can get themselves into trouble! Before posting here, take a deep breath and be mindful of the following... View more

Hi everyone, The Relationships & Family Issues section is one of the busiest here on our forums. It's also one of the areas where we find members can get themselves into trouble! Before posting here, take a deep breath and be mindful of the following 3 tips: 1. Do you really want to share this with the world? This is a public forum. Are you thinking of posting something that could identify you to a friend or family member? Once you've posted, you can't delete what you've written and we don't take posts down from here unless they've broken one of our community rules. This is because our members spend a lot of time composing replies, and there is a much wider audience that gets a lot out of reading what has been written. It's not fair to ask the community for support, then ask to have it removed once you've read it so others can't also benefit. Use discretion when posting here - think about the level of detail you are sharing, and think also about who might know you are posting here. Also, please keep it clean: this is an all ages forum and explicit discussions about sexual problems are not permitted. Threads and posts of this nature will be removed and your account placed on a moderation hold. 2. What do you want to get out of posting here? Relationship and family issues are stressful. Members sometimes post here seeking advice about a relationship that has broken down, but find themselves getting upset when they don't agree with the response they get. This is a peer support forum, meaning we are not mental health professionals. We are people of all ages and backgrounds, with a wide range of life experiences. While we aim for our discussions to be conducted respectfully, people here will respond with the truth as they see it, from their own experiences and perspectives. We are not here to take sides. Offence is almost never intentional, but it can be sometimes taken. The advice you will see here is not intended to be a substitute for professional counselling. 3. What other support do you have? Most people posting on our forums (about any issue) use this space as a supplement to other supports. This forum is not and cannot be a substitute for offline supports, but it is often a good place to start the ball rolling and find the courage for seeking help. If you are relying solely on an internet forum to resolve your relationship or family issues, you are likely to be disappointed. Check out the Healthy Homes section of our Healthy Families website for further information and resources.

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Natalia_S Retroactive Jealousy - Anxiety/OCD over my partner's past - Getting severe
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I (22F) haven't suffered with RJ until now, in my first committed relationship. Me and my boyfriend (25M) have been in a relationship for almost 10 months now. He’s had 3 long term relationships. At first I was mature about the fact that he’s almost ... View more

I (22F) haven't suffered with RJ until now, in my first committed relationship. Me and my boyfriend (25M) have been in a relationship for almost 10 months now. He’s had 3 long term relationships. At first I was mature about the fact that he’s almost 4 years older than me, he has had longer and more mature relationships and has done more in his life than me, but I still find myself stalking his exes on social media, digging around and asking for more information that I KNOW will hurt me, and straight up ignoring any reassurance he gives me. I hate picturing him with someone else and my instinct is to make him feel bad about his past that are beyond both of our control which I know is totally wrong. I go for weeks being absolutely fine, but the second an ex is brought into conversation, even by me, it’ll send me on a spiral of social media stalking and taking my anger out on him. It hurts us both every time. He loves me so much and he tells me that he’s never felt this loved in any relationship he has been in. I believe this to be true, especially from the things he’s told me about his exes. He says he’s never been able to see a future with any of his exes. I absolutely adore him and worship the ground he walks on. I think he’s the one but my behaviour really gets in the way of us being happy and trusting one another. Recently, I have been stalking HARDCORE, finding stuff from 2015 when he was with his ex and seeing what he's said about her, etc. I had to walk out of work because I was having an extreme panic attack and almost vomitted. It is getting worse and I don't want to lose him but I feel like the only way to stop suffering if to break up with him. I feel hopeless. I feel sick in the head and I feel like if I live like this forever, I will die. Does anyone feel the same or now effective ways to get over this for good? I've read books, articles and watched videos - nothing helps long term.

white knight Estranged fathers of young children
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As an estranged father of one of my children, nothing can describe the inner anguish of such a separation. What's more, having the mother of our child demonise you to our child and not promote your relationship with the child.. even devaluing it, is ... View more

As an estranged father of one of my children, nothing can describe the inner anguish of such a separation. What's more, having the mother of our child demonise you to our child and not promote your relationship with the child.. even devaluing it, is near impossible to combat. If your hurt leads to anger you wont win, if you remain calm and express kindness you wont win either because your kindness can be portrayed as a "trick, that he isnt being his real self". In my case my eldest daughter left home at 12 to be with me as she was treated poorly as I was. So my ex wife had an agenda, to make sure our youngest didnt do the same. She taught our youngest all the narc tricks she has in her armoury. Some of the devaluing examples you might relate to- Withholding a child from parent and teacher nights as the night didnt fall within visiting timesElevating the role of a mother over a father eg they give birth, they breast feed etc ALL PARENTS ARE EQUALDifferences in parenting seen as poorer parenting So, cut to the chase, what can a dad do to survive this onslaught that is ongoing until your youngest reaches 18yo. That was the era when I stopped all child support and told mY ex never to contact me again under any circumstances. So, that last few words was one answer. You are not compelled to have communication with the mother of your children if you find them toxic. So that day will come and you can decide that. Also if your child/children follow in their mothers path with toxicity you have choices. Eg After 14 years of my youngest 14yo-28yo treating me with contempt, manipulation, triangulation, etc I made the hard decision to cut contact. Even good fathers need protection. Rise up, be proud, acknowledge that you are a good person and tried your best but in some personalities you cannot combat cruelty and when you try you are opening yourself up to more abuse. It is a no win situation so realise that and make changes but dont fall for the guilt trip. I have my older daughter now 34yo and she might have a child one day. Also I have young kids in my life, grandkids of friends. I make them toy trains and draw pictures with them. I no longer have toxic people in my life. THROUGH TURMOIL AND DISARRAY The road has dips we never seeOur family wasnt suppose to beA torn heart and a suppressed manBe the dad you always planned The best adult to all kids aroundHugs will come, your worth be foundThrough hurt, turmoil and disarrayThe dad you be can still smile away... TonyWK

white knight Child support, non custodial parenting, step parents, ex partner issues, estrangement
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HiI am experienced in all of the above so hoping I can help any of you that has an issue in the above categories.In my 20's I was a step dad to a little boy for 7 years in my 30's I had 2 daughters and we separated when they reached 7 and 4yo. I was ... View more

HiI am experienced in all of the above so hoping I can help any of you that has an issue in the above categories.In my 20's I was a step dad to a little boy for 7 years in my 30's I had 2 daughters and we separated when they reached 7 and 4yo. I was unable to maintain a good friendly relationship with their mother, only the bare communication at best. She remarried then divorced, then lived with another guy. My eldest left home to live with me at 12yo. I then had a defacto relationship with a lady for 10 years that proved a poor step mum to my kids, she had two teenagers so I was their step dad. I paid child support for 14 years plus other expenses. Eventually in 2011 I remarried to a lady, my best friend for 25 years. She was also my children's favourite auntie by marriage when young so that worked out. My eldest no longer has a relationship with her birth mother and treat my wife as her mother now. I'm estranged from my youngest daughter now 31yo. This was my choice following years of narcissistic abuse she inherited from her birth mother. When first separated from my daughters mother I built my own home. Paying child support it was the only way I could afford one and I had the technical expertise to build it. So if any of you have questions I'll endeavour to answer them. The torment, the anguish and the sorrow can often be too much, I endured even though I had bipolar and other issues. There was many times I thought I wouldnt make it. Just losing my full time fatherhood was painful enough, I'm glad 50/50 parenting has become more popular than it was 20 years ago. Until we chat.TonyWK

Paul64 Newly divorced at 60 - tips for moving forward socially after breakup of a long relationship
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60 year old male dealing with the breakdown of a 25 year relationship.Very new to this whole process and seeking comments from others that have made this sort of life transition. What worked for you and what didn't?Acknowledging the need to move forw... View more

60 year old male dealing with the breakdown of a 25 year relationship.Very new to this whole process and seeking comments from others that have made this sort of life transition. What worked for you and what didn't?Acknowledging the need to move forward, and seeking some assistance to identify options/directions etc.

Matty321 Restless and on the verge of cheating
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HiI am a 52 year old female currently off work due to illness. I have recently started hrt replacement. I am married to an amazing husband for almost 30’years and have two grown kids. Of recent it’s like I have metamorphosed into a different persons.... View more

HiI am a 52 year old female currently off work due to illness. I have recently started hrt replacement. I am married to an amazing husband for almost 30’years and have two grown kids. Of recent it’s like I have metamorphosed into a different persons. I am absolutely horny and wanted to have a sexual liaison with someone other than my husband. Admittedly we don’t have a great sex life and he is really trying to please me and improve. However I’m attracted to other men and recently approached a younger guy at gym for a hook up. Fortunately he did not respond but yeh rejection is making me feel more low. I now made contact with my first lover from 30 years back whom I lost my virginity to. He is super eager to reconnect as he is divorced. He lives in a different country and has no appeal to me. But I love the excitement and thrill of this and without it I’m feeling deeply depressed. Despiteknowing I have so much to lose I am still wanting this so badly.it’s almost like I’m playing with fire and want to get burned.I know if I cheat I can’t go back and it will haunt me but without this excitement I don’t feel I have anything to look forward to or even live. I’m so tired of life.I’ve tried to be sensible blocked the ex today after he said he loves me still and also avoiding the gym guy I propositioned to. So embarrassed when I see him too. Any advice would be great as i am contemplating counselling. Thanks

Stillflying People pleaser and self loather - how do I stop feeling guilty when friends wrong me?
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I don't really want to go into the details because I dont want it to turn into a debate about what I should or shouldn't have done, other friends have weighed in and said they overreacted and got personal and cruel.I don't have a diagnosis of anythin... View more

I don't really want to go into the details because I dont want it to turn into a debate about what I should or shouldn't have done, other friends have weighed in and said they overreacted and got personal and cruel.I don't have a diagnosis of anything specific but I see a psychologist for anxiety and depression related symptoms that mostly only manifest in bigger issues at work. I had an overly critical and mood swinging mother so I get really sensitive to other people's bad moods.Does anyone have any tools or reading I could have a look at about how to let go of bad emotions after a fight with a friend? I feel like there's an emotional side and logical side of me and while I've said constantly to myself, you can't control other people, you can only control how you react, after a fight about something stupid where someone has said something really cruel and unfair to me, all I can keep doing is circling on the argument and feeling guilty like I've done something wrong, but logically I know I haven't. For whatever reason, they were in a bad mood or stressed and snapped at me.I can't logic myself out of feeling shitty and guilty and like I've caused it, I've tried to accept I couldn't do anything different, but its hanging around like a grey aura and making me feel like I can't do any of the hobbies I like to take my mind off it, and can't stop feeling like I hate myself and I'm worthless and I just can't watch TV or crochet, or read a book. I feel trapped in a vortex of misery.I can't resolve it because they've blocked me on social media and to be honest its probably not a good time so soon after to try and fix it. I don't know what to do, or what CBT or mental health lessons or books to read about the above type of thing.I've tried deep breathing exercises and grounding exercises, my next appointment isn't for another two weeks, that feels so far away right now. I'd welcome any ideas or even any stories from someone that knows what I'm talking about here.

white knight People violating your basic values
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It's clear I think that recent years has disclosed the immense differences between ages in terms of our thinking patterns and values. The new "woke" and the over 50yo are miles apart for example. Such differences can infiltrate into families and grou... View more

It's clear I think that recent years has disclosed the immense differences between ages in terms of our thinking patterns and values. The new "woke" and the over 50yo are miles apart for example. Such differences can infiltrate into families and groups causing conflict. To minimise mental anguish is to acknowledge your differences and stop the interactions in their path before you suffer the consequences. Family members can experience vast differences between each other. In my family it has become clear that narcissism has been handed down on the female side of my family. This revelation is indeed raw, it's hurtful as after 67 years I havent been able to combat it, cure it, sooth it nor cope with it. Narcissistic triangulation would have to be one of the most evil actions someone can do to another let alone within family. It is a process whereby one person has conflict with another and seemingly without taking a breath, the narcissist recruits other members by whatever means possible to "fight" their foe, be it young or adult children, parents, wills, anything to "win". What kind of sibling would manipulate against you by convincing others of your wrongdoing hence leading to the severing of your relationships of other loved ones? So this topic is indeed close to hearts out there that need to cope with loss How do you cope? I've learned how. Draw your line in the sand. Eg You have a friend and you think you know them. They drop in as your daughter and her new boyfriend visit. Her boyfriend is of African decent. Your friend leaves and next time you meet you ask why he left. "I dont like to associate with Sudanese people". Immediately that is a red flag to my values and I would straight away inform him our friendship is over. That is breaching my values fully. However, as humans there are less controversial judgements that are flexible. Eg politics. You can tolerate the differences. The time when I cant do so is when they constantly ignore the warning given to not talk about it or promote their party and why I should change my political choice. Similar to enforcing ones religion. So it isnt often the topic but how someone dominates the topic as they dont accept your freedoms. Flexibility needs both sides. Whether you are in a marriage whereby your partner is trespassing beyond core values or family members, you have the right to - draw the line. For my well being I cease the relationship and move on. Saving a toxic relationship isnt logical How do you cope? TonyWK

white knight They just wont understand, why?
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We hear those words often. The trouble is, there is a word in that sentence that doesn’t fit, it shouldn’t be there. It’s the word “wont” “Wont” means they have a choice to understand your emotional struggles. It should, in many cases, be replaced wi... View more

We hear those words often. The trouble is, there is a word in that sentence that doesn’t fit, it shouldn’t be there. It’s the word “wont” “Wont” means they have a choice to understand your emotional struggles. It should, in many cases, be replaced with “don’t” or "cant" For these people are the people we love and they love us. Would they, make the choice of not understanding? Understanding…what does that entail? Do we expect our partners, children, friends and parents to understand what its like to have our minds as if it’s in a cloud? Or throbbing like a migraine? Or whysome of us sleep for what seems endless hours? What about when our carer partner has been so long without love making and their frustration explodes and we chant “you just don’t understand”!!! I put it to you, that it is us also that doesn’t understand what its like to be a partner of a mentally ill person. In respect to this an article I wrote a long time ago now can be googled- “Topic: who cares for the carer- beyondblue” In that thread I mentioned that if you can walk to the toilet, answer the phone and get yourself something to eat during the day while your partner is at work….you can also greet him/her as they walk in the door, have a cuppa and a chat asking how their day went before you slip back into bed if you must. Some cant, understandably. But some wont! A choice (note the word “wont”) is made. In these cases they are hurting the ones they love. I’m lucky, my wife has depression, it comes and goes. We never say “you wont understand”. We both do understand. However my last partner and before her, my first wife, never understood my struggles. Those days I believed that they chose to not understand. I was wrong. They had little hope of understanding. Why? Simply because the other person doesn’t “feel” the effects of the illness. And there might also be the blaming effect to, to blame others through our own expectations of what we are pleading for. Whatever sooths you and comforts you from your partner – tell them what that is. Think about your needs whether is a daily hug, a hand on the shoulder or an ear with the occasional comment or question. For your partner or loved one likely has no concept of what they can do to help. And that in itself can be agonising. We should never get the feeling or not being loved mixed up with a lack of ability to help us. It’s not that they wont understand-its more likely they cant understand so they don’t. Tony WK

Anamaree My mother is dismissive and insensitive to me and my daughter vs siblings
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My mother is in her 80's. I'm her youngest daughter, just turned 49 with a single child of my own. I have an older brother and sister, both 10 years older than me and always close to each other. Our father died young. He was close to me and I cared f... View more

My mother is in her 80's. I'm her youngest daughter, just turned 49 with a single child of my own. I have an older brother and sister, both 10 years older than me and always close to each other. Our father died young. He was close to me and I cared for him when he was terminally ill. My mother has always been a bit closer to my siblings. However , after dads death I lived and cared for my mum for years as she was lonely, with poor English, and doesn't drive. We were good. I had a failed marriage in 2014. Years later I moved out to try a new life with my daughter and new relationship. Trying to find my own personal happiness. That's when my older sister stepped in. She lives hour away from me and my mum ( I rent 7 doors from my mum to help her if needed )but spends hours over the phone each day with her. My sister doesn't work and her husband has ensured their wealth. I work every day as a single mum for my daughter . I rent. My sister has manipulated my mum to the extent she has changed the locks so I can't enter the house. My siblings can. My mum most recently ignores me, speaks rudely to me over the phone. Is dismissive of my health and that of my daughter. Her granddaughter. She has family get togethers in secret away from me and my daughter . We dont get invited brcause my sister resents me. We live close by so we can see when they are over. I was in hospital recently and she didn't even call to ask about me. But told my partner that my sister had a bad cold and that she was worried for her. When I was in hospital I needed my daughter to stay over a night in my absence so she wasn't alone in our rental property. She's 13. As I was very ill and I left the house in an ambulance. So my daughter was upset seeing me being taken away like that. When I phoned my mum from my hospital bed at 9pm to ask if my daughter could stay one night until I possibly would be discharged next day, she said no. Her excuse, that no one but my sister sleeps in the spare bed. That they don't want to be washing the sheets if my daughter was there. I was so sad. And even more worried for my daughter. I can't forgive my mum for her abuse of my feelings and my daughters . My older brother who's,always been good eith me is siding wirh my sister. They had mum change her will and are powers of attorney. They can't wait to put her in a nursing home. I spent 4 years caring for my father, then 7 woth my mum. Whilst they lived their lives, travelled brought up their kids. Now that I need some support they have turned their backs. My daughter is very hurt by this. I just try to soldier on but its really hurtful. Any advice?

Fridays Missing my daughter
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I feel guilty leaving my daughter back home. I miss her. But I need to come here in Australia to work. I keep blaming myself and feel sorry that I wasn’t be there for her everyday

I feel guilty leaving my daughter back home. I miss her. But I need to come here in Australia to work. I keep blaming myself and feel sorry that I wasn’t be there for her everyday