Suicidal thoughts and self-harm

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Do you have a safety plan?

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Safety planning involves creating a structured plan – ideally with support from your health professional or someone you trust – that you work through when you’re experiencing suicidal thoughts, feelings, distress or crisis. Your safety plan starts with things you can do by yourself, such as thinking about your reasons to live and distracting yourself with enjoyable activities. It then moves on to coping strategies and people you can contact for support – your friends, family and health professionals. The safety planning model was developed in the US by suicide prevention experts Barbara Stanley and Gregory Brown. It has been used extensively by US veterans’ health organisations, hospital emergency departments and high schools, and there is strong evidence that it works. Many health professionals in Australia also use some form of safety planning to support clients experiencing suicidal thoughts or feelings, or after a suicide attempt. beyondblue has an app you can use to create a safety plan, called BeyondNow. The BeyondNow app takes the principles of safety planning and makes it even easier to use – so rather than carrying around a piece of paper, you’ve got it on your phone at all times. It’s free to download from the Apple Store or Google Play. If you don’t have a smartphone or would prefer to use your desktop or laptop, BeyondNow is also available to use on our website. Do you have a safety plan? Do you have questions around how you might create one, or fill out some of the sections? This thread is for discussing ideas around creating a safety plan, and sharing tips about what has been most useful about this process for you. Below are two videos featuring Peter and Nic, who have both used safety plans successfully. Peter Nic

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Life gets pretty hard sometimes and many people in this online community have had times where they have thought about hurting themselves or ending their life. This can be a stressful and at times overwhelming experience, and this section is here to help members who have had these experiences. This is a place to share where you are at, seek ideas for help and know that you are not alone. We are here to create a safe environment for everyone. Please do not provide any details about any plans/ideas that you may have had to hurt yourself, and importantly, help us to understand if you are safe by letting us know in the post. Making comments that let us know that you are having thoughts, but are safe, helps us to know that your conversation can continue without interruption, and that we do not need to put any further follow up for you in place. This section will not be for everyone.It shows posts from people who are distressed, offers public replies to these posts, and encourages people to come back and share how they got past that difficult point in time - what worked, what didn’t and how they now approach these difficult thoughts. It is important to think about what you want from the forums, what information you need and what threads will be helpful to your situation, rather than reading everything that is posted. For some people this section might be difficult to read – if it is not helping how you feel, then please consider moving to another section. This section, like the rest of our forums, is closely monitored and all posts are reviewed by moderators before publication. Moderators will also ensure that anyone needing follow up will be provided with information about how to access further support. This section remains a discussion forum focused on helping each other through the dark times, it is not a crisis support service. Any posts that do not abide by the community rules will not be published. Unlike other areas of the forum, threads in this section will be closed after a period of one month of inactivity. If you are in crisis or need immediate help, assistance is not available via these forums. Please call Suicide Call Back 1300 659 467, Lifeline 13 11 14 or contact emergency services on 000.

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Not suicidal just not super happy

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I feel so frustrated at the minute I cannot find any motivation to do my job. I am letting people down and I don’t want to but I can’t find the energy. It takes everything I have at the minute just to get through the day. I recently broke my back (can still walk but in constant pain) I quit a toxic job with nothing to fall back on. I owe a bunch of money to the ATO and my mortgage is about to double in a few weeks. I am trying to stay positive but struggling to keep up this facade. I think I’ve suffered from ptsd for last 2 yrs after my brother attempted suicide and feel like there has been a downward spiral since that I’ve struggled to come back from. He is my closer friend and I found him after he'd attempted to take his life. I guess I’m writing this to vent but also in the hope that someone reading this who is thinking of doing something extreme reads it and realizes your decisions have knock on effects to the people who care about you and you might think you are being a burden but know from someone who has had to deal with this trauma your friends and family will be far more burdened by your absence than anything you could put them through at the moment.

I don’t know what going on

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I just turned 18 and I don’t know what’s happening. I have often had some bad thought since I was 12 and I have attempted twice before and failed . Yet still I haven’t been noticed but my family, friends and even my therapist. My mum find a way to make my depression into hers and blames me for what I can’t control. Stuff like being unable to keep the house clean. I can tell my friends because I don’t want them to think of me differently. My therapist who I go to even couple of weeks seems to think it’s not serious. I feel like it is. I downloaded the beyond now app to help me through the hard nights but when I had to put down people I can talk to and reasons to live I felt very stumped, ultimately making me feel worse. I daydream a lot and I have managed to create my own world that I go off to when I don’t like this one. I sound like a weirdo but it’s what I do. I have an imaginary friends that I can hear at times and faintly see. I don’t think that’s normal but my therapist makes it out to be. So ultimately, according to everyone, I’m perfectly fine.

strong urges

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i have been clean for almost 2 months now, im super proud of myself, but after not really thinking about it for days I will randomly get really strong urges? AAh i know its probably normal but its really not fun, anyone got any tips to deal with urge... View more

bullying

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people have been making fun of me beacuse im small and i got leaked

I can't face anymore injustice. I'm a tragedy.

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1) I am 29 with no active payed work history. I've never wanted to be a apprentice, do a traineeship or anything in construction or the trades. I would struggle with Year 12 VCE and I couldn't be suited for University. I never wanted to work the typical industries like hospitality, sales, factory and retail. I've never known anything beyond the limited scope of conventional work and nothing of that seems suitable and desirable for me. 2) I never had a close relationship with my father. I've hated him ever since I was little, It started with him trying to make me follow his AFL football team, or he would be overbearing and verbal to my mother. He only understands himself, His selfish, arrogant, un caring, ignorant about many things. He can be devious and talk behind your back if he wants to, because if things are kept secret he won't have a guilty conscious. He prevents me from having valid feelings and problems and sais I'm on holidays because I'm un employed. He wants a house of peace and doesn't let me talk to my mother if his bothered about the volume of his T.V. His told my mother that I shouldn't be driving and that I don't want to work. All during high school my father was complaining to him about school feels and that I was taking days off and his friend was saying to pull me out of the only ideal private high school I could go to. I was bullied all during high school verbally and even physically degraded. I hated everyone in that school everyday for six years. Generally any issue that isn't his own problem, He just said why are you telling me for, or what does it have to do with me.

I don't really see a point in living at all. Existential/nihilistic crisis, I guess?

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I don't see any meaning in life and don't really want to live anymore. I've been questioning why I do anything at all since I was a young teenager. At some point, I think I came to the conclusion: "I should live to make myself happy and/or make other people happy" And that must have worked for a while... But now, I'm questioning: "Why does happiness matter?" After all, suspending any beliefs beyond the physical world, when one abstracts happiness to its basic components; is it not just "The right neurons releasing the right neurotransmitters at the right time"? Why do I even exist in the first place? Being an atheist, I believe I came from a line of species that was most fit to survive in their environment at the time. I believe that line of species originates from some kind of primordial soup. In that primordial would have been a simpler form of life, such as bacteria: Cells without a brain, without will, "alive" because the metabolic reactions taking place in and around them sustain themselves. That's all I think they were, self-sustaining metabolic reactions. The result of the laws of chemistry just simply existing. This is what I believe I am. This makes me think there is no point in life and I'm just the result of natural selection after the laws of chemistry/physics. But, I'm not just some unembodied consciousness drifting in a void, I'm a human in a body, a brain: I have emotions. I still feel sadness and inevitably will, but I don't see a point in suffering through it. So, why not just die? I mean, there's totally more questions to be asked though, like: How/Why does this universe even exist in the first place? How/Why are physics and chemistry like that? If happiness can be abstracted to a bunch of chemicals (i.e. neurotransmitters) at the right place/time, what can the particles that make the atoms that make those chemicals be abstracted to? (I have no clue) Is there any meaning in the answers to these questions? On a more personal note: I began socially withdrawing 2 years ago, I started SHing about 4 months ago and I feel like I might allow myself to die if I can't see a reason to live or at the very least, feel motivated enough to live. I have people in my life who miss me and be affected by my death, so I'd like to avoid going through with that... But I guess, if I look at what I've been typing, It wouldn't really matter... If you guys have anything to say; philosophical, anecdotal or otherwise: Please do, I would love to hear it. thx 4 reading my super long post.

Why do I feel like this

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I don’t get it why do I feel this way, I just want to feel loved and appreciated again, I have no one but myself it feels like. My parents don’t care they rather let me do it then help me, I don’t want to put my love through this bc it’ll hurt him as... View more

Can masterbation be a type of self harm?

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Ive been struggling with masterbation since I was really young. When i get the urge, I start feeling dizzy and shaky. My heart beats fast and I feel nauseous. After I feel disgusted and angry with myself. I noticed that, most of the time, I masterbate when I am not doing mentally well that day. But there are times where it just comes randomly or triggered from somthing I've seen/heard. I was sa by my cousins when I was younger, but I don't know if this is the cause of it, due to not having any memories of that time.

trapped

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feeling trapped. feel like my family would be better off with out me. I make so many mistakes. My husband says he hates me and that the children would be better off without me. I really cant blame him. I want to run, but i would miss my beautiful children too much. if i die, i wouldnt miss them and they would not be involved in a horrible divorce. I destroy everything i do or touch. i hate it, i hate myself so much. but when you talk to me in person i am extremely defensive and come across as aggressive. I am ADHD/ASD and BPD. the world simply hurts too much, but i dont want to hurt my beautiful children. I love them more than anything, but sometimes im not a good mum as they see me cry alot and that is trauma to them. i want them to be happy. their dad is a brilliant father!!! they dont need me. i make too many misakes

shit

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i know that i have a lot to live for but i really want to end my life right now, idk im just trying to distract myself from the thoughts

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Not suicidal just not super happy replies: 4

I don’t know what going on replies: 3

strong urges replies: 44

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I can't face anymore injustice. I'm a tragedy. replies: 26

I don't really see a point in living at all. Existential/nihilistic crisis, I guess? replies: 1

Why do I feel like this replies: 2

Can masterbation be a type of self harm? replies: 2

trapped replies: 8

shit replies: 2