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Just Sara A Bouquet for Pearls - share your appreciation for other members
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Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful word... View more

Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful words. I hope this thread stays active through members giving out praise regularly to people they feel deserving, and therefore keep generosity of spirit alive within the pages of BeyondBlue Forum. My bunch of Red Roses (my choice) goes to Wishful for the following sentence; 'Personally, I see no reason to be praised in me, but I'm learning that seeing through the eyes of others can be more accurate!!' I so hear you Wishful. Just beautiful... Try to keep your leading comments short to focus on 'their' words. Choose specific flowers (or a gift if you like) to present to them. Sign off respectfully and sincerely. I hope this takes off... Spreading the love...Sara

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Chris_B The two wolves of change
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A colleague shared this story with me this morning, I thought I'd post it here to see what you all think...---The Two Wolves of ChangeThere are many theories about how people change – how they change their behaviour, change the ‘patterns’ that may ha... View more

A colleague shared this story with me this morning, I thought I'd post it here to see what you all think...---The Two Wolves of ChangeThere are many theories about how people change – how they change their behaviour, change the ‘patterns’ that may have driven them for many years, change their way of life. Although we sometimes hear of ‘miraculous’ or sudden shifts, more often than not, change is difficult and comes as a result of a combination and accumulation of factors over time. In many respects, once you have a clear goal of how you want to be, or of what you want to change, then it is a matter of making small and daily choices, of attempting to surround yourself with aspects of life that promote that change. If we do this, over time, change will inevitably happen – why would it not be otherwise?There is a traditional Native American story which illustrates this process beautifully. It is a story for many occasions. It goes something like this:A grandfather from the Cherokee Nation was talking with his grandson."A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy."It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."One wolf is evil and ugly: He is anger, envy, war, greed, self-pity, sorrow, regret, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, selfishness and arrogance."The other wolf is beautiful and good: He is friendly, joyful, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, justice, fairness, empathy, generosity, true, compassion, gratitude, and deep vision."This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other human as well."The grandson paused in deep reflection because of what his grandfather had just said. Then he finally asked; "Oyee! Grandfather, which wolf will win?"The elder Cherokee quietly replied, "The wolf that you feed."(from www.firstpeople.us)

Mares73 Good-Luck Jo
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Hi Jo your previous thread on going to hospital had 49 posts!! So I thought I'd start a new one for you to share all your nerves & for your many friends to wish you luck. Also I'd been trying to reply yo you all day but I'm having problems replying t... View more

Hi Jo your previous thread on going to hospital had 49 posts!! So I thought I'd start a new one for you to share all your nerves & for your many friends to wish you luck. Also I'd been trying to reply yo you all day but I'm having problems replying to people so looks like ipad is on way out. My husband said if I come up with the cheapest computer options-he would consider getting me one so I best get onto that. Jo I'd benervous and anxious if it was happening to me also. But I'd also be excited at getting a break from everything and just focussing on a chance to get heaps of support & learning new ways to cope with things. Yes your nervous but what you will experience, the rest & respite you will get being in charge of what you need will feel fantastic. You've needed something like this for ages & the fact it's near home is an added bonus. D And Jo -please stop worrying what they will think of you. It's a psychiatric hospital which means they talk to & spend all day with people just like us. And they know we're not "freaks"-we are simply people who have episodes of an illness that can have bouts just like herpes or diabetes or asthma can. And they know this and most staff will show compassion & extra support when you seem more out of sorts than usual. And can I say a week will fly-ill bet you wish you had of had 2 weeks at least. jo ill hope & pray I can be in contact regularly tomorrow. Are You going to take your computer or have a complete break? My love & thoughts are with you x Mares

Chris D Long Time no See
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Hi All, Alot of things have been going on here for me, while in hospital. It has been quite challenging, hard, fustrating and very emotional at various times. Sorry i haven't been in touch, i have been quite hectic with trying to sort myself out. The... View more

Hi All, Alot of things have been going on here for me, while in hospital. It has been quite challenging, hard, fustrating and very emotional at various times. Sorry i haven't been in touch, i have been quite hectic with trying to sort myself out. The last couple of days, in particular today has been very disturbing, challenging and emotional.I will be in hospital for at least another week. To everyone out there who is suffering with a mental illenss or knows someone who has a mental illness there is hope and light at the end of tunnel. It takes alot of time, effort, tears, support and encouragement to get to see the light. I know it is hard and fustrating and you feel like there is no end in sight but i can assure you it does get better, sometimes it get's worse before it starts to get better. I wish everyone the best with their respective illnesses and the family members and friends of those people that things get better for you soon. Take Care Chris

Neil_1 Boosting of self-esteem
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Hi good people of Beyond Blue; Without doubt a key factor that contributes to our mental health issues is the complete lack of self esteem that we have of ourselves. We consider ourselves of not being worthy, not being able to achieve tasks and compl... View more

Hi good people of Beyond Blue; Without doubt a key factor that contributes to our mental health issues is the complete lack of self esteem that we have of ourselves. We consider ourselves of not being worthy, not being able to achieve tasks and completely lacking in skills of life. There's possibly other things as well, but I'll stop at that. Also comparing ourselves to other people - I think that's a "no-no" of monumental proportion. Every one is different - everyone has their own personalities, traits and skills - but you know what, I bet everyone has their own issues and while we may see someone else as being: "popular, confident, seemingly doing well for themselves and perhaps even in a relationship or not" things don't always appear as they seem with that person - so don't compare yourself with others. Back to self-esteem. I was shown just recently an exercise where I had to get my age (and so this can be done by EVERYONE, because we all have an age) and divide your age into 3 sections. I'm 48; so mine was from: 0 - 16; 17 - 33 & 34 - 48 (something like that anyway) Each of these is a heading and then below that type up "dot points" for things that you achieved between those ages - and dear people, it can be anything - anything and everything. eg: 0-16: I'd learned to walk, talk, run, ride a bike, how to write, how to read, play different sports; I was quite successful as a cricketer, so I bang on a lot more about my cricketing achievements. 17-33: move from country town to city and find a job - and so earn money - more sporting achievements, etc etc. They aim for this is to produce 101 items (as a minimum). But hey, don't stress it if you can't - commence it; save it and go back to it. It's a "living" document - where it can be added to at any time in the future. Maybe by new achievements/successes or that you've remembered another achievement from your past. And then keep looking at it and going over it; over and over it and embed these images in your head. That you ARE a brilliant person, you are a SPECIAL person, that you HAVE achieved a massive amount in your life. For those wishing to extend yourself, I've actually just thought of a new column: for achievements that you'd like to accomplish in your future: that could be anything: like hitting a hole in one in golf, to finding that special man/woman in your life, to backing the trifecta in the Melbourne Cup; to seeing a Justin Beiber concert, to going on a holiday overseas. Anything dear people - the power is in your fingers to type away - the power is in your mind to produce these lists. GO FOR IT. Neil ps: I was totally kidding about the Justin Beiber comment! No "hate" responses please.

the_motorcycle_boy Recommended self-esteem book
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Dear beyondblue, Not sure if I am using the proper channel here so please bear with me. I was wondering if I could recommend a book to you on Self Esteem that could be used as a resource for people online with Self-Esteem issues. I have had depressio... View more

Dear beyondblue, Not sure if I am using the proper channel here so please bear with me. I was wondering if I could recommend a book to you on Self Esteem that could be used as a resource for people online with Self-Esteem issues. I have had depression for many years and have used this book to help battle negativity and maintain, as far as possible, a healthy Self-Esteem. It has helped me enormously. As I read posts in your Online Forums I notice quite a few people have SE difficulties and when they write about these difficulties I can see myself as I was years ago, in great need and unaware. I feel like saying "Read This Book!" as I believe it could really help them a lot. Having low SE is a painful, awful place to be, especially when one is blaming oneself for their predicament. The book is clear, concise and very informative. It is written by professionals but is user friendly and can be utilized by individuals to empower themselves by increasing and maintaining their SE. I need to tell you the name of the book. The whole title is, Self-Esteem (Third Edition) A proven program of Cognitive Techniques for Assessing, Improving and Maintaining Your Self-Esteem by Matthew McKay & Patrick Fanning. Publisher - New Harbinger Publications ISBN: 1572241985 You can get the book at Fishpond (fishpond.com.au) I really hope the book can be of some use to the people at BB. Cheers Henry

C_Frank_ I Am Not My Condition
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Hey folks! New here and hunting for forums to talk to other folk with mental illnesses (Schizophrenia and Depression here). Specifically trying to write an article at the moment and keen for feedback from anyone who feels they can relate at all! I kn... View more

Hey folks! New here and hunting for forums to talk to other folk with mental illnesses (Schizophrenia and Depression here). Specifically trying to write an article at the moment and keen for feedback from anyone who feels they can relate at all! I know it's a little long (two parter) but I'd really appreciate your time and any feedback! Thanks!Possible Trigger Warning: This deals with depression, suicide and schizophrenia. And something we have to face that is often not spoken about. I Am Not My Condition.By C.F.Xavier .For the last 17 years I've been a diagnosed schizophrenic and depressive. Though I certainly noticed a drastic drop in my intellectual abilites after my first psychotic episodes, various counsellors, psychologists and psychiatrists over the years have said I'm a "high functioning" schizophrenic. My impression of this is that after years of learning how to "Do Normal" I can generally maintain myself and my home, and convincingly fake Normal in public. Since originally writing the short essay upon which this is in part copied and heavily based I recently asked my counsellor for greater definition. I am told it also reflects the fact that I currently exhibit many of the positive symptoms and less of the negative symptoms of schizophrenia and depression. This by no means has always been the case.It has taken at least a decade for me to develop the tools and in some cases learn the techniques from my doctors and counsellors which have allowed me to reach this point. I found the most incommunicable aspect is the amotivational. One who has not experienced it can never understand it. Also it is an aspect of depression being usurped and abused more and more by the ever increasing number of Faux Depressives who have self diagnosed and told all their friends, or fooled a busy or distracted doctor into believing, or otherwise faked in order to achieve personal desires such as the gaining of sympathy and attention, the acceptable excuse for absenteeism from school, work, social gatherings, etc, or the popularity of acceptance into a specific genre of peer group. This facet of the increasing openness and mainstreaming of mental illness acceptance by no means negates the value of the perestroika of the aforesaid, but awareness should be raised that the side effect of increasing fraud adds two more straws on the back of genuine suffers: Repetition induced apathy and disbelief. I have survived all this. I have beaten this. I suspect I am not alone.Largely through my recent introduction to Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) in addition to my independantly developed (Though I by no means believe original) personal techniques for questioning the reality presented to me by what appears to be the senses of my eyes, ears and sometimes even touch, I am now able to experience different sensory hallucinations while maintaining calm and rational thought and importantly, outwards appearance. Though my symptoms appear to be gaining in severity over time, so my ability to manage continues to increase. Though it takes a large portion of my time and effort I am surviving this. I am beating this. I hope I am not alone.I chose a career in which I can experience and manage auditory and visual hallucinations and depressive thinking and still function safely and secretly. People may think I'm lazy, drunk or weird (or when I was less adept at controlling my appearance, depressing, angry, manic, etc.) but they don't know I'm crazy. Though for anonymities sake I am unwilling to go into details, my work is both technical and creative and continues to be desired. My work was recently awarded a state industry award. The amotive factors are strong as ever but I am surviving and beating this. From the history of those like me, I know I am not alone.The continued development and improvement of anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications heavily aids me in my symptom management. The medication I now take superior to it's predecessor in the elimination of the massive weight gain side effect has lead to my loss of 20kg in the last six months and on track to reach my target weight in the conservative estimate of another 6 months. I'm on the smallest loop of my current belt. I'm wearing clothes I haven't been able to fit into for years. I'm feeling healthier and the small but noticeably significant continuing weight loss has certainly led to an overall improvement in moods. Though several unpleasant side effects remain, with the ongoing R&D of new and improved medicines I am surviving and beating this. I hope again I am not alone.Despite this disability I consider myself lucky because unlike intellectual disabilities or physical disabilities I AM able to hide it. But I feel that I shouldn't have to do so. I am sure I am not alone.1/2

Mares73 Learning to live&accept our illness
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Hi all I haven't posted for a while & I'm sorry for all the people I want to wrote to & offer support. I was doing that daily before I hit a brick wall. I saw my Pyschiatrist a few days ago & asked her how she believed I could get back a sense of sel... View more

Hi all I haven't posted for a while & I'm sorry for all the people I want to wrote to & offer support. I was doing that daily before I hit a brick wall. I saw my Pyschiatrist a few days ago & asked her how she believed I could get back a sense of self and also get some Selfesteem. She replied that it doesn't just happen ie I won't wakeup one day and its gone. She said its about trying to make small changes in our lives each day and this resulting in us having more confidence etc. she said to write a list of 10 things that I could do over time (even if its just opening the mail) and over time I will see & feel different things about ourselves. But the biggest challenge was to accept what pain & suffering we have endured, accept it will always be a part of our lives but we can't do anything about it now so we decide to lock it away and move on to the challenges we currently face. Yes it's very hard & painful to do but hasn't it taken enough of our life? When we hit rock bottom as I did a few weeks ago I realised I couldn't continue to ask why things from the past had happened etc. I needed to deal with the effects of the past on me & then step forward & look at our lives now & deal with the triggers keeping us in the dark. If our lives have been a course of constant trauma as mine was, then it will take time to heal & to face the damage left behind. But it's our only chance of trying for a better life. I know on "down" days I don't even believe all this myself. It's an ongoing process. And unfortunately in order to heal we need to confront our pasts & decide what to do about them-because all they can do now is continue to haunt us. I desperately need some Selfesteem & confidence. So whilst the Drs say I'm too fragile for therapy I have been reading, looking into volunteer work etc. I know I can't live like this anymore, it's dragging me so far down. I need hope above all else & that's what I'm now looking for. Just not sure where hope comes from? I feel like a child learning all the basics again & that's kinds ironic given Pyschs say the first three years of our lives set the foundation for our future in terms of validation, comfort & reassurance. I'd like to hear & learn from others. Lve Mares ps-a big thankyou to Geoff & Neil xxx

scorch confusion of an ex self-harmer
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I have not self harmed in almost 9 years (yay!)... but why is it still in the back of my mind? I could be doing any mundane, daily thing and suddenly feel like I should hurt myself. I never do it, because I remember what it was like when I did self h... View more

I have not self harmed in almost 9 years (yay!)... but why is it still in the back of my mind? I could be doing any mundane, daily thing and suddenly feel like I should hurt myself. I never do it, because I remember what it was like when I did self harm... NO WAY am I falling down that hole again, not after working so hard to climb out. But for some reason the urge is always with me, to hurt myself or something worse. Not always at the front of my mind, but lurking somewhere near the back like some creepy paparazzi. I don't want to feel this way. I don't know why I feel this way. I LIKE so much about my life, I've chosen to be happy even through the rubbish that comes with anxiety and depression. I can see how lucky and blessed I am, and I love being alive... so where do these silly, negative thoughts come from? I'm content with who I am. I don't need to, or want to, hurt myself... what is going on in my brain to make me feel these compulsions? Does anyone else have thoughts like these? Do you understand what I mean? Is it because self harm used to be an addiction for me? Like the way I sometimes crave a cigarette, even though it's been years since I smoked? Does it even work like that? Ugh, I'm just so confused.

scorch Finally making friends
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Hi. Just a quick one. I wanted to share something positive from my life. I think sometimes we only focus on the negative and overlook the positive, so I wanted to share something that made me feel happy. I usually hide from interaction, my low self e... View more

Hi. Just a quick one. I wanted to share something positive from my life. I think sometimes we only focus on the negative and overlook the positive, so I wanted to share something that made me feel happy. I usually hide from interaction, my low self esteem, insecurity and anxiety tend to make me a loner. (No one can hurt me if I don't let them near) But lately I've been trying to do things that scare me so that I can function and live in the real world. Well one of those things has been wanting to make friends. My husband and I know lots of people in this small town we live in, we're involved in volunteer organisations, church etc... but we never really found any good friends here, just acquaintances. Well, we used to have 2 friends, but they both moved away and we don't see them often. Anyway, for the last couple of months we've started spending some time with an engaged couple that we met through a volunteer organisation. We've had them over to our place a couple of times, and visited them quite a bit. I'm so excited because they've become really close friends to us. We all click so well. I'm just really excited that we've finally got some friends. Good friends. It has taken a burden off my chest, and I know it's helped my hubby too - having other people to talk to. So yeah, just wanted to share this with you guys. Yesterday afternoon they called to ask us if we wanted to go four-wheel driving on the spur of the moment. Usually I freak out at unplanned events, but we said yes and had a really fun night. I think it's nice to look at the good things that happen in our lives. What are some good things that have happened to you guys lately?

Neil_1 Common theme from some recent posts AND my thoughts on facing our demons
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Hi all I've been thinking (oh great I hear you all wail - especially BB moderators as they will now have to wade through this before it gets sent) and you know it's not that bad a past-time - 'thinking', although it does tend to hurt after a while, b... View more

Hi all I've been thinking (oh great I hear you all wail - especially BB moderators as they will now have to wade through this before it gets sent) and you know it's not that bad a past-time - 'thinking', although it does tend to hurt after a while, but maybe that's just me. Stick with me people as this could be a worthwhile read (even if I do say so myself). Last week I visited my psychologist for my latest appointment. As always, I had written down a number of dot points on a page, but this time I didn't even get to open that and the hour flew by as they always do. She focussed a lot of the time on me confronting some of my 'balloons of depression'. At present we're steering clear of the major balloons (these are of the hot air variety that people ride in - they're "that" big) and we are focussing on the smaller ones that I have; the ones that my psych believes that I can address, beat and overcome. Her method is for me to meet these "head-on" and this is where I tie this in with a number of recent posters who have written saying that this is their method as well. (Holy batman Neil, is it only NOW that you're realising this is one of the main ways to combat our illness!!!) Maybe it is, maybe it's not. A while ago I was so close to going back to bed and if not sleeping, to lie there in a state of comatose - but I thought no, bugga it, I'll do a couple of things and I won't be dragged back to bed by my illness. So I've prepared some food and I've tidied up a couple of spread sheets that I have things to do on and then I've come here. After this I'm heading to the garden to do some tidying up out there. My psych was telling me that I've got to keep focussed on doing things. Example: It's been approximately 5 years since I last hosted a cards night at my home. I used to do that twice a year with a group of mates ranging from anywhere between 5-7 guys for cards, beers and little wagers to make it interesting and they were always a lot of fun. But I cannot do those anymore for fear, for nervousness, anxiety, stress of having people in my home. MATES! Can you believe it? So we broke it down and went through each aspect of holding one and at the end, I might be able to try for one again. "Might". At least we spoke about it. I wish there wasn't a word maximum cause I've got so much in my head that I want to get out and feel I haven't touched on so many things. Confronting your fears, your stressors, your anxieties - breaking them down for what it will really mean if we do that. And following on from that example, say if I did hold another evening like that - they'd come around, we'd have beers, cards, no doubt a little bit of banter about the footy and other mindless chatter (not that footy is mindless!!) and I'd wake up the next morning knowing that I had gotten through something like that. A little win. Or perhaps it was a big win. On the down side, she noticed within the first 5 minutes of our appointment that she said that "you're much worse at the moment aren't you?" I said, Yep, no doubt. I reckon I'm getting worse as I get older. My stressors are increasing, not only in number but also size and power. I don't know people, I did have a lot in my mind that I wanted to talk about, to share, but now I'm just feeling empty again. As I've said to so many newbies on here, that it really DOES take an effort to come on here and write - and write about yourself. I think it's so much easier to write back to "others" in their threads. I'm tired now - and it's not even midday yet! Thanx for listening (stupid Neil - it's a website, it's "Thanx for reading"!) Neil