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Struggling to get help
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I know this is a place where we are supposed to encourage and support each other, to offer suggestions of where help may be received and to try to be positive in our experiences of reaching out for mental health guidance and care.
Unfortunately that has not been my experience for a long time living in the country.
My GP kept telling me he would make an appointment with me to do a mental health care plan. That took about 6 months. At an appointment I basically told him I needed help, could he please do the plan that day and not make me wait another 4 weeks for a next appointment.
The psychologist he recommended sent me an email stating with the information the Dr had written in the referral she was unable to assist me. She had not even met me!
Wait another 4 weeks for another Drs appointment. A new psychologist was recommended, I had to drive to the city for this one. Had to wait a couple of months for an appointment. My appointment was to be on Thursday this week. Received an email from the psychologist stating "due to changes in his circumstances he is no longer able to offer me sessions".
I go to the local hospital and am told "the Doctors are too busy seeing more important patients to be able to see you". The Nurse/Sister actually stated that to me over and over.
Looks like me and my sick mind are just going to have to keep trying to support myself until it doesn't work any longer.
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Hi Dools
Do you think you'd have any interest in researching, even if it's out of sheer curiosity and a way of filling a couple of hours a day?
A fair amount of the research I do is based on a sense of disbelief. When experts say 'This can't be cured' or 'There's only way way to treat that', I simply don't believe it. So, I'll set about researching things that prove some of those 'facts' wrong. Or I may wonder why something so simple works in the way of certain natural therapies and then investigate the biological or chemical reasons for why it works. When all the experts say the progression of MS can't be halted, how did Prof George Jelinek manage to stop his own MS from progressing before going on to change the lives of others? How do certain forms of meditation manage to lower inflammation levels? How is it possible that Tibetan monks, undergoing extensive tests, can be observed as altering the behaviour of their body through their mind, raising the temperature of just one part, such as with a single hand?
While a portion of what I research will make no difference to certain parts of my life, I simply like to be amazed and led to a sense of wonder. Other times I research what may make some difference to me. Whether it involves researching what relates to how my body works or my mind or how some sense of soulfulness plays a part in my life, often I'm amazed by all the things I never knew.
I think, as kids, we're often led to focus on all the unamazing things in life. There can be decades of that stuff.
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Dools I am sorry I didn’t mean that . I said your posts have been so helpful. Just thought writing but be a way if finding some purpose. I am really sorry if my clumsy words were confusing.
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Hi Dools
It’s been awhile and I’m sorry. I’ve had a break from the forum and just up to getting back …
I’m sorry you’re struggling, but so glad that you are writing about your experiences here. When I read your words, the responses and I also have the opportunity to respond I feel less alone in the world. Because here is the only place where I’ve found people that get it—or are really trying to get it—and willing to offer a helping hand out of the kindness of their hearts. No hidden agendas. No judgement. No strings attached.
I just want you to be well. Hang in there. Every day is a fresh start bringing the hope of a new beginning.
Kind thoughts to you
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Dear quirky,
It is I who apologises dear precious one. Your words are very comforting, encouraging and helpful. My thoughts on the other hand are sometimes overwhelmingly dull, depressed and confusing.
What I meant to explain was that writing in a book or in some other fashion (other than on the forum) about how I am feeling, getting all of those negative thoughts out of my mind, may well be a good thing to do. I forget to do that.
I thank you for your kindness, care, concern and your kind words. Mental health issues are not easy to handle!
Thinking of you quirky and all who contribute to the forum, I am truly blessed to be part of such a special community. Kind regards to you quirky and to all reading.
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Hi therising,
Thank you for this suggestion. As a child I struggled with learning difficulties and didn't realise I needed glasses until I was 30! Reading has been a lot easier since then!
Maybe it would be beneficial to rekindle a sense of curiosity and exploration of what makes the world tick. I realise from your words and those of others that I have become very stuck in my own existence!
The internet if full of information and the library is full of books! Thanks again for this suggestion. I really need to accept my depression and see what is possible each day!
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Hi Summer Rose,
Thanks for your kind words and the wonderful explanation about the community here on the forum. I hope you have had a restorative time away from the forums and you have found a greater sense of inner peace and calm.
My experience with mental health issues is that they can be so darn intense at times and I don't know what to do with myself! I don't mean to distress anyone here with my words and depressive rantings that ooze out at times.
Like dear quirky stated though, it does help to know that no matter how messed up my thoughts, feelings and emotions are, sharing here does help, I just need to be aware of possibly distressing others. Hence my suggestion to myself, to write down some of the more jumbled and confusing thoughts separate from the forum.
Thanks Summer Rose, hoping you have a meaningful day with pleasant happenings. Same to all reading.
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Hi All,
Recently I had another psychologist appointment. I was trying to explain to her the intensity of the depression and rather negative thoughts at times and tried to get an understanding for dissociation events that seem to be increasing.
The psychologist kept on repeating that I need to find a person focused Church, join in different activities and by doing that everything will fall into place.
Yes, I do agree that spirituality can play a part in mental health progress, that being with people helps, having connection helps, but it still does not answer needs for greater understanding regarding my mental health issues.
The German shepherd dog barking continuously right outside the window of the room we were in at the medical centre did not help either. There was no fence between the properties. The dog might as well have been right there in the room with us.
I repeatedly asked for greater understanding and assistance with my issues, I kept being told to find a different Church! She is a nice lady but I am not gaining the assistance I am requiring.
Looks like I will be returning to Google, books and trying more self care. At least I don't have to drive over an hour to have an appointment with myself and I don't have to pay myself either!
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Hi Dools,
If the psychologist really doesn’t seem to be the right fit, and you are not getting the help you are seeking, it may be that you need to look for someone else.
I eventually found a really good psych who is a great fit for me, but it did take some time and effort. I decided not to rely on referrals and recommendations from others which hadn’t worked so well. Instead I did my own extensive research. I first looked into what I wanted to resolve which was trauma-related. I really connected with particular somatic therapies that I read about. I then searched for practitioners using those methods. Even then I had to try a few before I found the right one. I began to get a good sense early on if the person was going to be able to help me or not.
So perhaps you can really look into specifically what you want to resolve. See what approaches speak to you specifically. Then you can see if you can find directories/lists of people who use those approaches.
Like you I’m in a regional area. I know that can make it tricky finding someone. There are no psychs in my town and a few in a neighbouring town, but not doing the approaches I wanted to do. So I set my net across the whole of Australia and now work with someone via Telehealth in a different state. She has been so helpful and on the same page as me.
What you can even do is contact psychs before getting a referral and actually ask them about their approach. I think most would be open to a brief discussion either via phone or email where you can get a better sense of whether they might be a good fit.
In the end I’ve found this the best way to get the best help. I did the same thing with my liver specialist. The first one wasn’t very helpful and my health was deteriorating. I researched the websites of other liver specialists till I found one who seemed to have current knowledge (up with the latest research in the rare condition I have) and be a nice person (which I consider important). He is lovely, positive, helpful and encouraging. He’s trialling me on a med now that’s really helping.
So I think the answer is to be pro-active and to search for someone who will be an ally in addressing what you want to work through. I felt really demoralised at times while still searching, so I know it’s hard, but I kept hope going in relation to what mattered to me and what I wanted to achieve. The best way I can put it is to be an advocate for yourself. Ask what you most need, search for approaches that address those needs and then for practitioners who work with those approaches. While still searching you can be researching and educating yourself and if you need support, keep in contact here or with helplines.
But take care not to burn yourself out either trying to find answers. Like what the Rising is saying above, you can explore and research with curiosity. Have a sense of wonder and interest about what you want to understand and resolve. I found that helped me a lot well before I actually found the psych I’m working with now.
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Hi Dools
My heart goes out to you, as the appointment sounds so disappointing. It's like you appointed her as 'the person who was going to make a difference (hopefully)' and she disappointed herself from being that person, based on not giving you what you really needed from that session. Whether a different church would make a difference (finding folk who will make some difference there on your path at this stage) is beside the point. The point is you didn't get what you needed most, in that moment.
I think certain elements of spirituality only work if they're relatable, otherwise they don't necessarily make much of a difference. While I'm someone who researches and tries to see mental health issues from a mental angle (the impact of mental dialogue, challenging perspectives, mental programs/belief systems etc) and a physical angle (chemistry, biological or genetic factors etc), a spiritual take on things has been something that's made a great difference to me personally. So, while there can be mental reasons and physical reasons behind something like dissociation, the wonderer in me just can't help but wonder about the spiritual significance. Whether you find some answers or guidance from the research topic 'Dissociation in spirituality' all comes down to whether some of that's relatable in any way. Of course, there'll be a few different takes on it from a spiritual angle. Our personal take becomes the most relatable one.
I think what I appreciate most about the spiritual or natural angle is that it can take what is a natural reaction under the circumstances and lead us to feel 'normal' in some way, based on our reaction under those circumstances. We don't have a 'fault', we have good reason. We do not have a 'disorder', things are disordered or out of balance and we may lack the knowledge or skills to make sense of things and manage. The question becomes 'How do I find a reason, some order to the chaos and some balance?'.
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Hi therising,
Your statement at the bottom of your message is what I am struggling with. "How do I find a reason, some order to the chaos and some balance" when my mind is just so confused I don't really know which way to turn to find a sense of normalcy and healing any longer.
The issues I have asked to be addressed by the psychologist are not being listened to. The Dr wrote a list of matters he feels need attention and none of that has been discussed.
I've returned to Google for some answers and have found myself withdrawing further within, building the walls up again. One site was particularly helpful in understanding very negative thoughts and how to deal with that situation. All sites recommended talking to your Dr and psychologist if you have one. I'm struggling to get any help from the psychologist and my Dr has left so I need to find another one.
I tried Googling psychologists but just became very confused with that process.
I will send the psychologist an email stating how frustrated I am, in a kind manner.