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What is honesty and how does it affect your mental health?

quirkywords
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I want to discuss what honesty means to you and your health.

People say that they fake being well, or wear a mask so no one knows their pain.Is this being honest.

When we do not admit our flaws and our behaviours does this make it harder to have insight into our illness and harder to get better?

Do we need to be honest with ourselves and others in order to be well.?

Honesty can be a very subjective personal word. What one people feels is being honest another may feel is not.

For many years I was in denial about my illness so I would admit to myself I was ill, I was not honest.

So what does honesty mean to you? So lets start a conversation. All ideas welcome.

Everyone is welcome to comment, new posters, regular posters, I want everyone's ideas.

Quirky

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Hello everyone.,

I have a dear friend who is quite ill and has been in a psych unit for a while. She is confused easily.

I believe everything she says at first but find she is often confused so it is hard to know what to trust.

She believes she is honest so I would not correct her.

Has any one an idea how I relate to her without disbelieving everything she says.?

Quirky

Quirky and all hi

Hun I read with interest but don't always post. I want to come back & talk with you on your last post re your friend. I've been realizing more lately and was going to discuss this in my thread. Glad this came up.

I'm just not sure when I'll be back tho, having trouble getting out of this episode (BP, nearly a month, was coming out and just had another shorter hypomania having some struggles here and there so if you don't mind if I come back later? I'll either read as posts appear or catch up later depending on how I go through the hards.

Thanks Quirky.

Hi Quirky,

This is an interesting but difficult question. I think you are already on the right track. Accepting that she is telling you what she believes is true is critical. For most things knowing the precise truth is not essential so those things don't worry about it. If there are things which do matter then try to find the truth as best as you can & then perhaps tactfully mention the truth.

There have been times when my husband & I have believed different things to be true particularly when he was unwell & on strong meds. Sometimes I would tell him what I remembered but then pointed out we were both saying what we believed but we are both human & could have forgotten something or missed seeing something. By pointing out either of us could be wrong & it was OK to forget something it took away any arguments & allowed us to move forward.

Hello all,

DB so sorry to hear you are not well. wishing you the best and the strength to co e out of it, I am always hear in this bipolar life or any of my threads if I want to chat or just someone to listen. you do so much for others , please take care of yourself.

Elizabeth

Thanks formyour comment, it really has helped. it is hard when friend says something, her daughter says another and a doctor says something else.

Quirky

Hello everyone,

I am not sure if anyone has read the book Radical Honesty by Brad Blanton. If so does anyone feel they could live by being radically honest. I found the book interesting but I want to say, but , and what if and challenge some of his assumptions.

Dr. Brad Blanton ,is a psychotherapist and expert on stress management, explored the myths, superstitions and lies by which we all live.

The philosophy states that lying is the main source of human stress, and talking bluntly and directly, even about painful or taboo subjects, will help people be happier by making an intimacy not possible while we continue to conceal certain subjects.

So what do you think about radical honesty? Have you read about it or tried it?

Quirky

Hi Quirky,

I will have to find this book. Radical honesty sounds like me since deciding I didn't want to die but I couldn't live as I was anymore.

I'm finding it very hard to find the balance between speaking my truth and being mindful of hurting others.

New relationships are easy. People either accept me or don't. Existing relationships are the problem. I'm fortunate hubby accepts this but others don't like it at all and see it as my illness forcing me to change rather than a choice.

I'm looking forward to seeing what others write.

Are you finding the book helpful to you Quirky?

I see a beautiful kind caring gentle person in you Quirky. Thanks so much I really appreciate what you said and the person you are.

I've been thinking a lot about your dear friend and apart from feeling for you I can strongly relate and still aim to return on that subject if ok Bbl (be back later)

Radical honesty I think makes sense. I feel we need to be more open about situations people experience.

Most of us I think want to be understood. This could happen if we felt we could speak freely without judgement.

Differing opinions can be educational. Easy to think one way until other views are expressed.

Often peoples issues aren't hurting others or unintentionally.

With discussion knowledge is gained and understanding can come about including support from others being in same/similar positions who either might empathise or offer help.

I believe for many, good communication is one of our failings but like to think we'll get there eventually because there's more good people in this world that do care about others.

Take care Quirky love. Thank you for what you do for so many. True champion 💗

Hello everyone,

DB thanks for your kind words and very thoughtful post. how are you doing?

I agree we all want to be understood but we are often misunderstood.

If we are u derstood does that means others will be misunderstood or worse ignored.

People want to be heard and valued and sometimes to do that are not honest. Sometimes being honest means you will not be liked as people find the truth to be uncomfortable.

DB you help so many people on your threads and other threads and help make this forum the caring place it is.

Quirky

I've not read the book I will have to look around for it though because it sounds interesting. I'm trying to transition from being a person who lied almost every day of my life to protect other people's feelings, or to please them, into someone who can speak my truth. It's very slow going as the concept is simple to understand while the practical application can be tricky. Like you say honesty puts a lot of people off and you might lose friends over it, which can be upsetting.

I guess what I'm trying to do is assess each situation as it comes. I have a few close friends I can be honest with and know I'll be accepted, so that helps. But there are some circumstances where it's just not going to be helpful to speak up. Like for eg. if you have a friend whose child is a bit of a brat, you can hardly say that. Times like that it might be that discretion is required ie. say nothing if you have nothing nice to say!

Also I am careful where I give opinions that I do it if the person asks. If they ask for my advice, all bets are off. I'll say exactly what I think. Ditto if the person has said something offensive, these days I speak up when I would have just simmered quietly before. An example there would be my MIL who says nasty things about other people in front of my children (she is racist, fatphobic and many other things). I call her on this now, challenge her beliefs. It seems to annoy her which is a nice bonus 🙂

But I suppose I assess when it is important to speak and when it's just better to keep quiet. I guess that's not really radical honesty at all, come to think of it lol. But I'm a work in progress.

I do know for a fact I feel better when I'm truthful, and agree that having to pretend to be something you're not creates untold stress on a person.

GW

Hello everyone

Good witch , your post resonated with me, and I like the way you are aware of your behaviour. I agree often it is wise to know when to speak out and when to keep our tongue quiet.

It can be a balancing act for some one likes me .

Thanks again for everyone to refreshing the discussion.

quirky