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The thoughts are strong

Kitty88
Community Member
When is it ok to say you've tried enough? When is it ok to cave in? The thoughts don't ease up lately they just get stronger. I feel so torn on what to do anymore. I'm so worn out but my heart is torn. When is enough, enough? I don't know what to do anymore
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Hey Kitty88, 

Thanks for reaching out this afternoon,

We're concerned to hear you've been hearing voices and how badly they've been affecting you. We're also very sorry to hear you've experienced a miscarriage. We can imagine how hurtful this news must've been to receive. You've mentioned feeling confused and not knowing who to trust concerning your miscarriage, could you tell us what you mean by this? 

We'd really urge you to get in contact the Beyond Blue Support Service, which is available 24/7 by phone on 1300 22 4636 or on Webchat 3pm-12am AEST on our website: www.beyondblue.org.au/getsupport. One of our friendly counsellors will be able to talk through these feelings with you and can offer support, advice and referrals. 
 

Kitty88
Community Member
Thanks but it's to much now, I've lost this fight, they win!

Dear Kitty88,

We’re so grateful to have you reach out to our community this morning and are so sorry to hear everything you have going on at the moment. Times like this can definitely get overwhelming . We hope that you find our forums to be a safe and supportive space to talk through your thoughts and feelings. Our community is here for you. 

Our Support Service is trying to reach out to you via email as we're worried about you. 
We hope you know that there is always help available to you, whether it's from our professional mental health counsellors Beyond Blue (available 24/7/365 on 1300 22 4636) or our friends at Lifeline (13 11 14) or the Suicide Call Back Service (1300 659 467).
Keep checking back in with us whenever you feel up to it. 

Kitty88
Community Member
Thanks for your email/call but I can't do it... I give up! I've had enough it's to hard now. They win, they really do. Sorry

Dear Kitty88,

We’re so grateful to have you reach out to our community this morning and are so sorry to hear everything you have going on at the moment. Times like this can definitely get overwhelming . We hope that you find our forums to be a safe and supportive space to talk through your thoughts and feelings. Our community is here for you. 

Our Support Service is trying to reach out to you via email as we're worried about you. 
We hope you know that there is always help available to you, whether it's from our professional mental health counsellors Beyond Blue (available 24/7/365 on 1300 22 4636) or our friends at Lifeline (13 11 14) or the Suicide Call Back Service (1300 659 467).
Keep checking back in with us whenever you feel up to it. 

therising
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Hi Kitty88

Depression without a break is, I believe, the worst kind of depression of all. It wears you down, constantly. It doesn't just wear you down, it brings you down in so many ways. From my experience, in the past, you can start off basically depressed which can then graduate further into a deeper part of the depression. Beyond that are even more levels. There is no level lower than the absolute depths. If you imagine depression as 'a depression' or a hole, it's the deepest and darkest part that I'm talking about. I recall it. When people talk about 'Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel', imagine that tunnel isn't a horizontal one but a vertical one. You look up and because you're so far down, you just can't see the light. I remember that moment for me, when the light had seemingly gone, which is why my eyes well up when I sense how much you're suffering.

I can recall how lonely it was down there but what I didn't realise was the fact that I had others down there with me at the time. There were thousands of people all suffering quietly in the same depths as myself, at the same time. We all felt alone but we were together in our suffering, in some ways. I hate how lonely depression can feel. It's cruel illusion which thousands around the world can all be suffering through at the same time, together.

I wonder whether you've ever considered finding a group of people who can relate to the depths. These are people who can relate to the challenges of a lack of light, pure exhaustion at times, mind altering absolutely brutal inner dialogue and possibly even physical pain and so on. Would members of such a group have something to offer that nobody else has offered before? It's kind of like while you have everyone else saying to you 'Look for the light at the end of the tunnel', your support group can be saying, in certain ways 'Don't worry about looking for the light, we'll show you how to navigate the dark, until a bit of light comes to you naturally perhaps, without you having to work so hard to find it'.

It's just a suggestion. What works for one may not work for another. Personally, it was entering group therapy which led me out of more than 15 years in depression. Such a relief to finally find others navigating the darkness that can come with depression. Every session was a break from feeling the depression. Every session instead offered a chance for us to fully and honestly be our self, venting about how completely shi**y life can be at times.

geoff
Champion Alumni
Champion Alumni

Hello Kitty, I am so sorry for what's happened and how/what you are thinking may be trigger points where you have no solution to, but you can't face them all at once, and each one may definitely change from the situation you're in today, than where you were yesterday and can't necessarily be compared, although they may linger from one to another and produce another trigger you weren't aware of before.

Try and write them down and from each one have a number of different options branching out, in other words, trigger one may have 4 or 5 different options branching out from it, and they may be good and/or bad ways you can research or find ways to overcome to cope with them.

Once you are able to handle 1 branch then cross it out, you don't want to keep looking at it and don't want to be reminded of what it says.

I understand it may reappear, that's not your fault.

My best thoughts.

Geoff.

therising
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Hi Kitty

Forgot to ask whether your physical pain management is effective. It's just about impossible to be experiencing chronic long term pain and not experience depression with it. When pain is all you can focus on, it doesn't leave room for much else.

Kitty88
Community Member
It's to much, between losing a baby and now my dad suddenly I can't win. Mentally I'm struggling, the psychosis is becoming bad again. I can't do anything anymore, all I do is lay in bed and drink. I've been self-harming excessively just to try and cope but I'm losing this battle, it's to much. I think these demons have finally won!

Hey Kitty88,

Thanks for reaching out this afternoon,

We are so sorry to hear what you're going through at the moment. We acknowledge how difficult it must be to manage and process such losses. It's so important that you've reached out for support and we hope our community can talk these feelings through with you. 

Our Support Service is also trying to reach out to you via email as we are worried about you.

Have you considered speaking with Griefline - 1300 845 745? GriefLine provides counselling support services free of charge to individuals who are experiencing loss and grief. We hope you know that there is always help available to you, whether it's from our professional mental health counsellors Beyond Blue (available 24/7/365 on 1300 22 4636) or our friends at Lifeline (13 11 14) or the Suicide Call Back Service (1300 659 467).

Please check-in and let us know how you are whenever you feel up to it.