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Hi all.
Like others I think of suicide basically constantly.
It's like a someone whispering in me ear that I can't stop as my life otherwise is (mostly) ok.
I told my parents again but they just said Im an attention seeker that using it as an excuse not to work.
That is far from the trust as when I tell them I'm suicidal they laugh and then get angry.
It's so difficult as it makes my suicidal thoughts worse but they seem completely oblivious.
Anyway stay safe all.
Chris
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Hello all.
Thank you for reaching out to me for support.
Sorry for delay but I assure you all words have been taken in.
The initial hospital phase was extremely challenging and painful not just physically, but I am home and whilst very incapacitated physically, I'm in a surprisingly good space mentally.
I am just hoping that continues as I'm trying to view my injuries as a reason to change various parts of my life for the better, not as a reason to become more susceptible to the dark place I've spent so much time in.
My parents have been a fantastic support and I couldn't be more grateful (yes it's not perfect sure but it's a huge improvement).
So I hope everyone is also doing ok or of not seeking whatever help is necessary (certainly not drinking alcohol has dramatically helped my mental state).
Thank you all very much again.
Chris
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Welcome back and thank you for the update. We’re really glad to hear that your recovery is going well. It’s good to hear that you’ve been getting some support from your parents. We hope you know we're here for you too, whenever you need to talk it through, on 1300 22 4636, or online.
Thanks again, Chris. We hope you know you're always welcome here and this lovely community is always happy to hear from you.
Kind regards,
Sophie M
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Hi Chris
I'm so glad you're feeling a difference. Strange how a difference can come about sometimes, in such an intense way. Perhaps this is the difference your parents needed too, as kind of a wake up call. Unfortunately, it involved such a physically painful experience for you.
Would you say you're making significant progress when it comes to figuring out a lot of your triggers? You mention alcohol as being one. I can relate. I was quite a drinker throughout my years in depression. These days it's rare I'll touch a drop, mainly for 2 reasons: 1) I've managed to work out I'm a binge drinker where I can't stop at one and 2) it's a serious trigger for depression for me. Not drinking is one of my management strategies for staying out of depression. Btw, with my husband being a drinker, I get to observe more clearly what I was like to some degree back in my drinking days.
If the following is of any help, I'll share what I've only recently worked out in regard to why I used to drink. I'm grateful for the revelation which has brought greater clarity, largely through me observing my husband. I worked out alcohol, for me, was a kind of sedative. It would sedate the sad side of me so I could feel what felt like a carefree form of 'happiness'. I didn't care about much while I was drinking. Alcohol would sedate the fearful side of me as a shy kind of gal, so I could feel some 'Dutch courage'. It would sedate the 'people pleaser' in me, so I could please myself for a change. Of course, this can leave one feeling serious regret, as what pleases us can be highly triggering for others. It would sedate the analyst or thinker in me, so I didn't have to analyse my problems or work so hard through feeling those challenges. Alcohol sedated so many aspects of me I really needed or needed to work on. It got in the way of me developing myself through some intense and sometimes highly emotional challenges. Without the sedative, things can be so much more confronting and emotional. I finally worked out the confrontation and emotion exists for good reason. It's partly what creates motivation, in some cases. We can either drink through what we can't tolerate or constructively work through and beyond what we can't tolerate. I hope that doesn't sound at all preachy. Just sharing a revelation I had in regard to my own experience.
Btw, I still have my vices which don't serve me. Smoking cigarettes, to name one, is something I need to seriously work on, in the way of elimination 🙂
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Well done Chris, hope things continue je to look up for u
U are a smart guy , and are caring, Hope for good updates.
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Thank you all for your responses.
Very kind and as per usual, yes theRising you are spot on.
I also appreciate it Sophie and Sleepy.
Today I was driven to a Cafe overlooking the beach for 30 minutes today (first time outside of house to relax since Sunday) which was so good mentally.
I hope others are doing ok?
Sorry all for not checking into other threads to provide support, but I will get to it as I don't want to appeal self-centred.
Chris
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Hello all.
I thought I should check in.
Been tough in a wheelchair but now I can use a crutch albeit shoulder I can't use for a lot longer.
Mentally I'm ok. Not great, but ok.
I think this community is fantastic and I know for sure I wouldn't be still here without it.
I hope anyone struggling to the highest level looks back through my thread, my struggles despite ongoing, and knows there is always hope.
Chris
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Hi Chris
You're so very thoughtful and caring. I'm glad your physical recovery is going well, while perhaps being a little frustratingly slow. 'Mentally okay' is a little easier to manage than being in absolute overwhelming despair. While 'okay' is not ideal, it can offer a bit of relief. Have you been developing anything new while being off your feet? Any new interests?
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Hi the Rising.
I'd like to think I have those qualities (as do you) but it's interesting in how your mindset affects how you think about yourself.
Yeah "ok" is so much better than utter despair.
It has been frustrating but yes I plan on doing a course of some sort- maybe working on cars?
I want to be able to restore cars one day so that might be my starting point.....
Thank you for your kind words and I hope you are going well.
Chris
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Hi Chris
Our mindset can be undeniably distorted and brutal at times. I find when I'm in a serious potentially depressing challenge, I plummet into the worst mindset. It can be so brutal, leading me to wonder why I'm existing and what's the point of it all. Once I can make sense of the challenge I'm in, why it feels so incredibly depressing, bamm, I'm out again wondering 'What the hell was all that about?!'. I feel like an emotional yo-yo at times. Over the years, as a way of managing to stay out of depression, I've discovered a few tricks or tools. Btw, they don't always work so easily. Depends a lot on the circumstances. It's kind of like you have to go rummaging around in your bag of tricks to find the right one for the occasion. Can be a massive challenge at times, choosing the one that works.
One trick involves opening my mind. Yes, can be seriously hard to do when you're mind is fixed tight around what you perceive to be the undeniable truth, such as 'I'm useless and pathetic'. I suppose you could say it's a form of meditation in a way. I'll calm my mind, as much as I can under the circumstances, and wait for a trigger phrase to come in and then rely on that dialogue to lead me in a more constructive direction, opening my mind to discover the truth, beyond the lies I tell myself, such as 'I'm useless and pathetic'. It kind of resembles a battle of internal dialogue. I might sound a little insane but I'll share anyway, as an example
- I'm useless and pathetic
- What leads you to think that? (trigger for the mind to open)
- I can't keep the house clean, for a start, something that agitates my husband
- What stops you from keeping the house clean?
- I'm just so tired after doing all the things I have to do. I tend to sit and relax too much outside of doing those things. I feel like I don't have the energy to clean the house. It's not high on my list of priorities
- So, you're not useless and pathetic, just lacking in energy
- I suppose that's true
- How are you going to create the energy you need to clean the house? How are you going to shift your priorities? What is everyone around you doing while you're doing just about everything yourself? Do others need to step up to the plate more often?
and on it goes, 'til I reach a constructive conclusion, not a destructive one.
There are times where I feel like my own psychologist. There are times where the psychologist or the sage in me will simply dictate 'Stop thinking and just go and do something instead' 🙂