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What can men do to help women feel safe?
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Hello everyone,
I just read an interesting article and have also recently watched a controversial show which got me thinking: what can men do to help women feel safe?
I would like to think that most if not all people here want a society where women do not feel like they are at risk. The situations that come to mind for me are walking through a dark area, being at a party and wanting to have a drink, leaving a drink to go to the loo, having a stranger talk to you, being offered a lift, among countless others.
I am asking because there have been many times where I have this massive umbrella (because I lose small ones) and I want to offer to share it with someone, but then I wonder if they'll think I'm creepy and be put off by that. Or if I'm driving my car and someone is running in torrential rain, and I want to give them a lift, but that is creepy. Or if I'm walking behind a lady in a dark alley, and so I stop walking and wait until I'm not making scary footsteps behind her.
Somehow by being a guy, I feel like my presence can be a threat so I try to avoid that as much as possible. So I just want to put it out to everyone: what can men do to help women feel safer? Is there even anything we can do (aside from the obvious don't do bad things)?
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Well said dools. I totally get it with your psychologist example. My psychologist always makes an effort to be on the same level as me which i really appreciate. For example, at my first consultation i addressed him as 'doctor'. As i left, i said 'see you next week doctor' to which he replied i should call him by his first name, not doctor. It made me feel more comfortable.
I do understand however that some psychologists feel that their patients are more accepting of advice if they are sitting lower then them. The physical space makes a big difference to how we receive information.
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I also agree with Dools. Being treated as an equal or as normal goes a long way to feeling comfortable. It is also important to come across as real or honest. False friendliness feels patronising.I remember going to a GP to request sick leave because of extreme stress. He listened & then briefly shared a related situation from his own life. This helped me feel understood & normal. His story helped me see that my reaction was normal under the circumstances thus removing the feelings of shame & embarrassment which were compounding my problems.
Recently I went out & met a guy I hadn't seen for years. He greeted me as if he was glad to see me & later gave me a compliment that came across as genuine because it was specific & believable. This helped me feel comfortable in a social situation where I was feeling out of place.
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This is a great thread, thanks for introducing it James.
I've gone through all the comments and all the suggestions are great. It's true you can't know how any one woman will react to an offer of assistance. Some will, because of fear or past experience, react badly (or to their mind, they react in self defence). The best thing to do in that situation is simply back off and not take it personally. Understanding that these reactions come from a genuine place of fear, and not out of some desire to persecute men, will go a long way. Unfortunately some men take a woman's reaction whatever it may be as a personal attack and in doing so make the whole thing about them and their perceived emotional wounds, instead of recognising that women have greater fears than feeling rebuffed to cope with. Margaret Atwood said (paraphrased) men fear being laughed at, women fear being killed.
There is little more tiresome than when fear of a man's reaction to something we say or do has to be added to our already long list of things to fear. Offer help, by all means, many women will appreciate it. But if she doesn't want help or even tell you to rack off, just be cool. It's probably not about you. Be polite as you would to anyone. Accept no for an answer the first time it is given. Call out bad behaviour in other men when you come across it, or at the very least refuse to laugh along if someone is out of line. Listen to women when they say something makes them uncomfortable, instead of dismissing them as paranoid.
If all good men did these things it'd be a weight off most women's minds I think.
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Hello GoodWitch,
Wow thank you for reminding me of that Atwood quote. I studied her quite extensively in school, mostly for fun, and I found it super enlightening both the first time I read it and when you reminded me just then.
I had a moment that captures that quote so well when I created the thread: there I was, happily typing about how difficult it can be as a man to know how not to seem like a threat. Then it occurred to me: at least I'm not being threatened!
the thread has been super helpful for me 🙂
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ha ha I get it what you mean. nothing wrong with admitting you're struggling to know what to do around women to make things easier for them, and asking advice as you've done. That's much appreciated. It's another thing entirely to say women speaking out about their experience is ruining everything for men forever and ever, dating is no fun now they have to worry about how the woman feels, it was better when men were men and women were happy to take a back seat etc etc
These dudes should probably stop talking lol. But you're fine. Keep listening to your wife I'd say. You don't have to always agree with her but to acknowledge her feelings is a huge thing. To acknowledge her emotions without calling them irrational or trying to fix every problem for her is truly awesome.
Best
GW
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