Leaving Australia!

[BlueEternity]

Depression cured! Leave australia! Under 30's have a read. 

So a few months ago we went to a home open. My wife and I really loved the place. It was a TINY tiny cottage on about 300m2 with no backyard and 2 rooms. Barely enough space for a couple. We really loved it even though it was probably worth half what they wanted.

We put in an offer.  700k. Which was extreme. We had saved just over 200k over the years. It was 10x our income.

We were told later the place was sold to a couple in their 60's then about 2 weeks later we got a call from the agent saying 'I'm pleased to announce the house is for rent would you like to put an application in' 

That night was horrible. For 3 hours my wife sat on the couch crying. Watching TV crying. Reading a book tears rolling down her face. It was because we knew we would never have a chance at 'living in australia' despite being 4th generation Australians. We didn't talk the whole night.

In bed we lay in the dark for about an hour. Then my wife finally spoke

'I HATE Australia...'

That was it till the next morning. 

My wife never swears and is always syper postive. Im the opposite. After a couple of weeks we discussed how why where etc of owning a home and raising a family in australia. The prospect of our kids living in a dog box. US having 40k uni debts our kids having 100k debts. How we have the lowest populatiom density in the world but somehow the highest land prices. How morally wrong it was that those who didn't have to pay anything for land and education can now extort us into being slaves for them. The more we thought about it the more we realized we both hate Australia and it was the cause of all our depression. 

Fast forward 6 months and we have successfully gotten jobs overseas and move in 3 months. Ok pay but 1/4 the housing cost and 100x the variety. But with our saving we are buying a house out right and we're not even 30. 4x the size of what we could ever dream of owning in Australia.

I would suggest to anyone who's depressed have a good look at your life. Throw away your comfort  blanket and realize Australia is a paradise, for anyone over 40. For the rest of us opportunity and lifestyle await all you have to do is walk out the door. 

[HA1]

Hi BlueEternity

Thank you for your interesting post.  It got me thinking.

A change in lifestyle and environment is often the best medicine to commence the healing process (in my view).  I would look at it in terms of leaving the past and the current 'future' behind, and starting a new life with a new future, a future without the baggage of the past.  That is my plan - and relocating overseas is a probable outcome.

Although I am well over 40, I can't see a paradise in my current environment.  I also look forward to walking out the door into a new lifestyle that I pray is awaiting me. Just as soon as I can afford to do so.

I am very pleased that you have taken this step - any way you look at it it is a brave move.  I wish you and your family all the best with your new beginnings.  It does sound like a dream.

Take care

K

[BlueEternity]

Thanks K

We had a bit of anxiety about leaving. But now we have been overseas a few times we realized just how big the world is. 

 We were really stressed out. Broke from trying to save a deposit. We had $300 a week left over after saving to buy fuel food bills etc.

We know 7 people now who have simply left australia and they all LOVE it. Some are in the USA ones in new Zealand. A few in Europe and 1 in China. The guy in China even says it's great. His savings was like 20 years income for them lol

We always used to be so depressed and sad about what living in austraila means. We realized how much better it is beyond these waters. 

I know people say the grass is always greener on the other side.

In this case it really is!

 We can't explain just how much stress. Anxiety and depression lifted as soon as we realized now we won't have to work till we are 70. We will have a fully paid off house and we aren't 30. And we can chase our dream jobs and hobbies for the rest of our lives.

We'd come back but house prices would have to be 1/2 what they are now and laws put in place to stop investors buying what should be a human right, out from under those who need it. Also education and healthcare. We can see it going the way of the USA.

[silverphone]

Hi, in a similar boat to you 🙂 Would you mind me asking where you moved to? Maybe what part of the world (if country is too much info to reveal). We're also looking at the options. Thanks!

[randomxx]

No doubt about it all true. lt's mind boggling what's become the norm in this country these days. And what 7 or 8yrs after this thread started, it's all even worse now than it's ever been. A new gov that's just made it all even worse if anything they've had 3 or 4 yrs and here we are and state gov's all doing the same.

No other gov to choose from next election the other guys let all this happen, they built what this place has become, so you won't wanna be depending on them to change much l'm afraid either.

l'm glad you gave it the finger op , it's just insane the way things are here now. My daughter can't even find a rental to start her life, it's just damn sad.

lf it was 20yrs ago l'd have done the same as you guys but won't be going anywhere now.

Anyway, good luck to you too silver phone, and l hope one way or another your dreams can come true.

rx

[Jani]

Hi Blue, 

I think part of my depression too, is being here in Aus, good on you guys for beating depression. You see, I came from NZ where I had a very ideal lifestyle and a thriving career.  Everything changed when my teen was moved from there to Aus, so I had to follow. Since then, I've been miserable, but the thought of being close to my teen while I can keeps me optimistic and the suffering is ignored everyday. I rent a room, literally like an oven, 3 metres by 4 metres, that's all I can afford here. I really hate it here, if not for my teen, I would have left a month after flying in. I also got outbid twice last year, 2 properties which are now priced 120k more than last year. That was a heartbreaker, but also a blessing, coz I lost my job. But everything happens for a reason, I think. So just dreaming of the day I can leave Australia  for good and look after my mental health. But for now, I'm trying to be rational and strong...

[randomxx]

V sorry to hear about your situation Jani.

ldk if it's possible for you bc you'll want to stay closer most likely but you can still have that lifestyle here in many many places around the country, only thing is, it is in the regional areas.

l know a lot of people don't want to or can't or think they can't move out of the city areas bc of work or whathaveyou , or in your case for your teen, but if they can, the doors open right up.

l left Melb 30yrs ago , couldn't go back now anyway with the prices and costs but l wouldn't want to anyway. l've lived regional since and in some beautiful areas and lifestyles in the smaller cities, we moved a lot earlier/ Around a yr or two after the op's original post here, l wasn't here then but just time wise, l went through divorce too and needed to stay close to my daughter but for half the price of the ops actual deposit, half of that, was the full price of a great house example that l got in a beautiful smaller town with views and all and close to coast too. The main town of 50000, which is a beautiful small city also on the coast was only 20mins away, my town was of about 3000. lt's been a beautiful lifestyle  right through and whenever l'm down the city l'd just wanna get the hell outa there and back home.

My daughters grown up now and l left that area only a few mths ago actually to go caravaning for awhile and where l've been at even just the last mth or two actually, l can't believe just how beautiful once again it is up here and just how nice life is around here. lt's only a town of about 6000 but there's other towns around too bring it up to ldk, 10 or 15k in the immediate area all up. like my old town, the lifestyle here too , feel, the surroundings, the way they just really look after the people here l mean they can want for nothing the council up here really got it together they have everything they could possibly want. lt's kinda pretty bustle'ly to for a small area,kinda cool really,  people are really nice, it's bloody lovely tbh, another world.

Well prices are have gotten a bit sillier now these days even in regional but they're still only a 1/3 or less of bigger city areas and although foods dear living in general is much cheaper. First thing people say is orrr the wages are lower, well so what if your only paying 1/3 for your house and living cheaper in general too then who cares anyway.

l'll also never forget through all the covid stuff and what Melb was going through , but meanwhile all through up at my place and area we're all still just ladi da and life as usual mostly , it was mind blowing what was going on on news though in the cities.

Actually 1000s of them moved up to where we were after all that don't blame em.

But anyway, just some food for thought for anyone wanting to set up somehwere and get a start there are 1000s of smaller areas where lifes far nicer anyway and at a fraction of the costs.

Good luck to all

rx