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Doctors and Dysthymia
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Hey Everyone,
I'm Michael. I'm recently 19 years old. Basically ever since probably when I was around 14-15, I've had what I thought were bouts of depression every now and then, and other than that, nothing else too bad. However, I've come to see that this whole time, I've had a mild form of depression, punctuated by those occasional darker moments.
In reading about depression, I came across Dysthymia which seems to hit the nail on the head. I decided to take the plunge and see a doctor about it. I guess I didn't have the same great experience with doctors that people seem to have. It's not that she didn't believe me, but I felt like I had to talk myself up a bit around her. Make it like my symptoms aren't as bad as they are. In the end, she recommended I do a Medical Action Plan and then do psych sessions. Should I do this? They are all really expensive ad I don't know if I want to.
Towards the end, short of diagnosing me with dysthymia or depression, she commented that she thought I probably just had a generally more melancholic/ darker outlook than most people so it might not be anything, which worried me a little.
Anyone had a similar experience? I really think I know what I have, but the Doctor doesn't seem to be on the same wave-length... but then again, she is a Doctor and I'm not. I'm a bit lost. Should I see another Doctor to double check or stay with this one?
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Hey Banksy - Good to hear back from you! I hope you are having some good days.
Firstly, no need to apologise on this forum. Ask questions, seek clarifications, or just vent - there is no such thing as a silly question.
Anyway, what meant was for you to tell us more about how you feel, how long you have been suffering, etc. Just so that we understand your circumstances a bit better. But you know what, you have already in your second reply to WK. So thanks for that. Now I know a little bit more about you.
You might have noted that WK mentioned above that he is interested in understanding the symptoms of others with dysthymia. I am going to follow up with a separate reply. However, I am also interested in understanding better how you feel on a good day and a bad day with dysthymia? And when the (double) depression hits, how does that make you feel. Does it make your dysthymia symptoms worse, or are there new and different symptoms that you experience?
Now it my turn to apologise for asking a lot of questions without providing much help at all.
Look forward to hearing back from you.
Take care
K
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Hi Banksy
Thank for that information. Chalk me up as someone who relates 100% to the symptoms that you describe. That is me from as young as I can remember to now. It took me a long while to from up and get diagnosed, and that only happened after a complete and very severe meltdown that also affected my physical health.
I look forward to exploring and sharing with you on this thread.
Talk soon Banksy.
K
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Hi Banksy and AOK, a very interesting thread.
I'm 58yo and retired last year due to my mental struggles. This dysthymia Banksy you described rather well indeed. "The sky creeping" although not my description, is one way to think of it.
Many times when single, or maybe had an argument with my then partner, I'd seek a rock on the top of a hill and stare at the view, tears dropping like a waterfall. My depth of thinking at this point is very very deep. I'd question my existence, my reason for being, imagine great things like seeking out the nearest animal to pat it, caress it, love it and of course write my poetry. The deeper I be the better the poetry.
My mates never understood of course. Once my long time school friend's father died. I'd never seen him cry. He cried at the cemetery. The next day I asked him how he felt at the grave site. "shocking" he said. I then told him I felt like that regularly...he then realise the depth of the problem. It was my only way to paint the picture.
My cycle used to be 8 weeks then 10 days of deep sadness. I never realised a cycle existed for many years until my then partner recognised one and kept a diary. Now its every 4 weeks with a deep sadness session of about 3-4 hours. This is rough but you get the idea. I dont know if age has had any bearing on this too.
Banksy, you mention symptoms that for me has been great imagination. I often wonder if the great artists or writers of the world have had dysthymia? I was nicknamed "the worrier" at 12yo by a teacher. I was also told I "was bright". I had trouble focussing too. These tags and others led to my miss diagnosis of ADHD. ADHD was thought to develop in some people as a protective mechanism in cavemen days - to be alert enough not to have your stew stolen or your safety from predators compromised. So ADHD is natural, just not ideal in the "normal world".
So dysthymia, perhaps is the creative person, with great imagination, a worrier maybe, deep feelings, compassionate. I wonder if these 'possible' traits of the one with dysthymia is accurate and if we can add to that list or tune it up.?
Then there is the other thought. If we have had dysthymia as part of our lives, our make up most of our lives, could we do without it? It's part of me now. The times it does not exist and I feel 'normal' I feel like I've lost a big part of my soul.
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Hi Guys!
A little bit off topic but ......
Doing a bit of casual research on the topic, I came across a story about a Siberian funeral band (!!??) ---------- wait for it!
The bands name is Station Dysthymia ! Their music, published by Solitude Productions, is described as "..desolate, hopeless, dark music". Can you imagine? Was not tempted to listen & I am not rushing out to buy their music!
Take care
K
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Hey Banksy - how are you travelling? Feeling any better?
Thanks for your question. The short answer is we (me and my team of health professionals), are quickly coming to the conclusion that I probably have had it all my life - without it being diagnosed as such and, hence, without treatment. (Even as a toddler/young child, I have now been told, that I never wanted to/or could mingle with others and always sought out my own space. So I have lived with it for a long time and it has shaped who I am. Without it, I would be someone else?? Interestingly, now that I am on a very high dose of medication, my wife partner has been lamenting that I am different and she no longer recognises me for who I was. She is sad about it! But I have to rationalise it with the reality that I need to change if I am to get better and hope that you can indeed teach an old dog new tricks. Or I can forget about getting better, and live as I have been! Bit of a catch 22.
Sorry, went off topic a bit and started venting - apologies.
In my case it is also becoming evident that there are genetics at play in a fairly big way.
Hoping that you are having a good day,
K
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