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Blame, guilt and being fair to yourself
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Do you blame yourself for the mistakes you've made? Do you feel guilty about them? Do you spent time dwelling about "what could have been"?
I use to until I realised, that you are only responsible to limit our mistakes in the here and now. Once that decision making has been made, if it was the wrong one, it was only wrong after making it. But punishing ourselves year in year out is not clever, its responsive and harms us.
Eg For whatever reason I grew up impulsive problem I now dont have. Such a trait resulted in buying and selling 35 cars before the age of 23yo and as they were on loans I got myself into heaps of financial trouble. My family heard my justifications each new car I purchased, friends laughed but it was a serious issue.
As the years rolled by I dwelled on those impulsive years and beat myself up about them. But was it my fault? We end up as we are for a reason. In my case it could be I needed attention, needed change often, liked different cars in my driveway or got tired of one car quickly and desired another. Or my mothers BPD (undiagnosed) had its effect on us kids.
Whatever the real reason, it wasnt fault on my part. There is only fault when one doesnt learn and improve on the situation as best one can. As time went by I tried to keep a car for long periods. By 30yo I kept a car for 3 years, by 40yo 5 years and now my new csur purchased in 2008 I still have.
In my 20's my then girlfriend had had a baby adopted out when she was 16yo, 8 years earlier before I met her. We split after 6 years then met up 20 years later. She'd spent many a restless night dwelling on that one mistake, to give up her baby. I told her that under the same circumstances she would have done the same thing, she would bow to the pressures from family, no means to support her baby and the stigma from that era. Essentially, blaming herself was unfair. What would be more unfair is to not search for her child and help her child through life by knowing her birth mother.
We met up again 10 years later. She told me she found her child, now with children of her own. She had accepted it was unrealistic and hurtful to lay blame on herself for giving up her own baby. She has some lingering guilt, wished things were different and still takes medication for depression.
Importantly, her self blame has drifted.
She is now an active granny. She progressed.
Blame and guilt are suppressive thoughts that need to be contained. Be fair to yourself.
Tony WK
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Tony, I'm just tagging this thread, I have read it 3 times,want to say something just don't know yet.
Think you have touched a lot of nerves here and people are holding back.
Later
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Hi Later
No worries. Thats a good idea.
Tony WK
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Hi white knight,
Do you blame yourself for the mistakes you've made? Do you feel guilty about them? Do you
I find this a hard topic personally. I blame myself a lot for making mistakes. I expect myself to be perfect, set my standards high and wonder why I fail to meet them. I'm just human, after all. Everyone makes mistakes.
I know that I wouldn't be who I am today without my past. Some things I've learned to accept and move on. But there are still things I wish I could change. I guess I have a few regrets in my life. There's stuff I just don't talk about, but I still have to live with it. Often I wonder what would have happened if things been different. I know I should just move on, but I can't seem to. Maybe I'm just in denial and I need to talk about it. I don't know. I just can't bring myself to do anything about it.
Anyway, that's my thoughts on it.
Mia
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Love it Tony, once again.
i am so utterly exhausted ATM so won't respond but it's a good one.
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Hi Mia
I hear you. Its like some past experiences cannot be pigeon holed into the one marked "closed".
I've got a few. My old prison warder days now 40 years ago was littered with events most of which I forgot about but some have lingered...why? I think I've analysed it as being events I feel guilty about, maybe frightened or potentially dangerous...a "what could have been" senario.
All such memories are held and are unfair to us. We deserve better. But the mind, has a mind of its own.
Maybe normal people control that better?
Tony WK
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Hi White knight,
I just feel so lost. Some days it hurts so much but I just keep up my facade, pretend I'm okay. But I'm tired of it. I just want to fix my life and be normal. But deep down I know I'll probably carry these scars for life. I keep telling myself I can't change the past, I can only shape the future. But I'm scared. Scared that I'll never get over this. It was years ago and I didn't remember what had happened until I starting seeing a counsellor. It brought back all these memories I didn't want, but I can't change it. I never told the counsellor. I just told her I didn't want to talk about it. I guess I didn't want to admit that it happened because then I would have to face my fear.
But I'm tired of running. Now I've got to the point that I just want to move on and I'm ready to talk about it. I told 2 of my friends, and it was kind of a relief just to say it. I guess now they understand all those times I just "needed space". I was so scared, I didn't know how they'd react. At least I know they're here to support me.
I had my first appointment with a psychologist last week. It was the first time I really admitted to myself that it was abuse. She doesn't know anything except that something happened and I don't want to talk about it. Actually, I kind of feel bad because she asked if I had ever been sexually abused and I said no. I guess I was just scared of what would happen if I said yes. But I know that I'm never going to be okay again if I don't deal with this and face it. I have to stop running.
I'm just so scared of what will happen if I tell her. I worry that if I tell her everything she'll have to report it, and then I don't know what happens next. I don't want to go through that. I feel that it was my fault, that I should have done something to stop it sooner. Sometimes I think am I just being stupid about the whole thing? I don't know what to do. Do I tell her everything or just a bit? Can she help me if I don't tell her the whole story? Will she be angry that I lied to her? I don't know; I'm just so scared, and I'm so tired of hiding this from everyone, but I know I can't tell my family. It would devastate them, and they wouldn't believe me. What if she tells them?
What should I do?
Mia
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Thanks Tony for this thread.
Guilt is my middle name and I feel guilty stating that.
My trouble is how can I forgive myself when a person won't forgive me ever for something that happened over 3 decades ago and still affects people today. So I feel guilty all over again.
Mia, I feel your quandary but I don't have the experience. I think there are threads on a similar theme that maybe able to help you.
Take care
Quirky
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Hi, I've been out of range for a few days
Mia, there are some things in life that are your call. Normally I'd suggest telling your psych everything but that could cause you more trauma. Its not my place to advise you exvept to suggest that YOU make that decision. The same with your family. With family ask yourself-
- what benefit would it give you?
- will they respond sympathetically or with doubts?
Quirky, most people have skeletons in their cupboard. If not....they walk around with their own skeleton every minute of the day...
Tony WK
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Hi white knight,
Thanks for replying! I don't mind the delay; at the moment I have to come to the library to use the wifi. Sometimes it's hard, especially in you live in a rural/remote area or don't have the internet at home.
I guess on my next visit I'll just show my psych the post, see what she does and decide from there.
With my family... that's a hard one. If I tell them something happened, they'll put pressure on me until they find out everything and then they probably wouldn't believe me. At the moment, I don't think informing them would benefit anyone. I feel bad about keeping secrets, but I think it would probably be worse if I told them.
Mia