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Mindfulness: What Is It? (Even if you dont know please post so we can help grow the forums accordingly)
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Hi Everybody
This is only the basic dictionary definition...
"Mindfulness is a state of active, open attention on the present. When you're mindful, you observe your thoughts and feelings from a distance without judging them good or bad. Instead of letting your life pass you by, mindfulness means living in the moment without judgement"
- Please be as blunt you wish....If you dont have an idea about mindfulness it would be great if you could let us know
- If mindfulness hasnt worked/or is too broad a concept for you it would great if you can let us know your thoughts too
- If mindfulness has helped you, please help others to help themselves by posting how you have embraced this mindset
It goes without saying that the forums are a judgement free zone and I really hope that everyone can jump in and have their say
Your input is highly valued no matter how you respond to this topic. There are no experts here...New Posters are Most Welcome!!
My Kindest Thoughts
Paul
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I found something else a while back. Trust technique James French. You can google it. He started using mindfulness on abused horses and gradually evolved to people. There are a few free videos you can watch.
Obviousely mindfulness isn't coming naturally to me, but I'm picking up some workable skills.
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Thanks Wilma
The more information the better. Its great that you are joining the discussion as I am still getting a handle on mindfulness as you are. Especially being taught how to 'ground' myself for so many years...
Thanks to Starwolf for the great posts on mindfulness throughout this thread. Written in plain english so many others can grasp the concept..My Best. Paul
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Paul, cracking idea for a thread this. So i will give you two stories on how mindfulness has helped me out in a massive way.
The first was when i was in hospital and at the lowest. I was introduced to a whole new world of mental pain that i thought was not possible. Whilst in there we had three one hours lessons during the day on all things recovery and treatment. This is where i first heard about mindfulness. So after that session i went back to my room and was dismayed that it was a brilliant day, blue sky and perfect for a run but i couldn't go.
I sat in front of the window and looked at the garden below and saw a butterfly fighting against the very gentle breeze for us but a near hurricane for them. I watched as this butterly fluttered around and was then joined by a second butterfly. I sat there and watched these two for what i thought was about five minutes.
I then heard a knock on the door and it was lunchtime. It then dawned on me that i had been watching the buttreflies for an hour and for the first time since being in hospital, i felt totally at ease with myself and calm. It was like there was a ceasefire in the war.
It then dawned upon me that this was because i had become totally lost watching the butterflies and did not think about anything else but them. I was living purely in the moment.
The second was just after i got out of hospital and I went for brekky with my wife. I was on edge massively. Anxiety was high, depression was high (as in felt low), the PTSD symptoms where off the charts but i knew i had to get out.
My wife chose a quiet place where i ordered my standard bacon and eggs on sour dough. As I was cutting through the sour dough, the knife was not sharp enough to get through it easily and i felt a massive anxiety attack coming on. I vividly remember looking for something to ground myself and noticed a deep gold coloured water dispenser and it was like i was put into a trance but the sheer deepness of the colour. The anxiety lowered and allowed me to get on with brekky.
I noticed that even after the anxiety lowered, i remained transfixed on the gold. I stared at it for ages and felt relatively good after it.
To me mindfulness is that place where time stands still, where you are at peace with yourself, where nothing else matters. It just gives you that little break we all need from time to time to remember who we are and what we are capable of....and that is recovery.
Mark.
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Mark,
Love the butterfly story. It's magic.
Take care
Cmf
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Hi everybody 🙂
Hey CMF....Spot on...that was a heartfelt and magical post from MarkJT. Love it...
MarkJT provided a clear and helpful post above that many of us (including myself) can benefit from
Mark said "To me mindfulness is that place where time stands still, where you are
at peace with yourself, where nothing else matters. It just gives you
that little break we all need from time to time to remember who we are
and what we are capable of....and that is recovery"
This is seriously great stuff Mark. Thanks heaps for your knowledge and super care factor
My Best. Paul
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Thanks MarkJT,
two great examples of how mindfulness helped you.
A question to everyone.
I wonder does one have to reach close to rock bottom to really appreciate the qualities of mindfulness.
As I have written before, I have focussed for a little while but none of the amazing feelings that Mark has experienced. and written about.
Does mindfulness work better when one is in great need for it?
I have another question/ observation but will save it for another time.
Quirky
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but sometimes just playing games on an ipad or computer can help. Things like solitaire or games where you need to match three gems in a row ie candy crush. Puzzle type games. I know we can't sit and play games all day but i find these types of games keep me in the zone as you try to reach the next level. It passes time and keeps you focused on that particular objective.
I wonder if we 'over think' mindfulness as we try to achieve it. Why not keep it simple to start off with until we get better at understanding and achieving it? It can be frustrating when we feel we are not quite getting it. It is a bit like having anxiety, the more we try to fight the feelings the worse it can become as we are giving it too much attention. Try and let the mindfulness happen naturally, we may actually do it without realising. I also find if i am warm i am more relaxed, when i am cold i can't relax or focus properly. About a month ago when i was a little anxious i went to my local cafe and sat in my usual spot at the window. It was a nice sunny day and the cafe was warm. My chai arrived and as i sat sipping i realised how nice and warm it was and i felt myself staring out the window, almost in a trance. I noticed I felt this way bet this way because of the warmth, because i was warm i relaxed, noticed what was going on outside, noticed the background music in the cafe , i was in 'the zone'. Similar to taking a warm bath i suppose. I have relax melodies on my phone, i am using it now for the first time. I am going to make an effort to use it when i sit at my computer or playing my ipad games to draw my mind to the sounds as opposed to the chatter that sometimes takes over.
Just a thought.
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Hi Everyone,
Mark thanks so much for sharing your story and experience with us. I feel similar when watching fish, ducks on a pond or clouds moving along the currents of the wind.
Quirky I would like to encourage you (and remind myself) to try to use mindfulness through the day. For example, if you were to have Coco Pops for breakfast you could be mindful of the noise they make when you crunch them, how they taste, how the milk changes colour, the swirl left in the bottom of the bowl after you take the last mouthful and so on.
When I am out walking I try to really SEE what is around me, notice if there are any smells, the temperature of a breeze, is there a breeze, how your shoes sounds as you walk along etc. This is another aspect of mindfulness to be aware of everything around you.
Mindfulness can happen at any time. During the good times and the not so pleasant ones as well.
Cheers from Mrs. D.
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Mrs D
I do understand by now what mindfulness but I am not sure what the reason is for listening to my cereal . When I walk every day in the bus I do take notice of all my five sense but to me that is just having a walk, not sure why it needs to be called mindfulness?
I appreciate you helping me, and I find your posts very useful.
I understand about being in the moment but to me that is just concentrating.
I could see from Marks post that when one is down mindfulness can Ne very important bit I am not sure in every day life mindfulness is more useful than concentrating,
Quirky
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Ok maybe I need mindfulness so I would not make so many typos!!
I walk in the bus, not in the bus- that would take concentration.
Quirky