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[SourceShield]

Greetings!

This post is about LIMITING-BELIEFS, or as me and my brother Matt now call them, Old Thought Thoughts - OTT.

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This post will most likely not appeal to many people, because I am writing about our beliefs that we have about life and ourselves, that we all have had for much of our life.

Our beliefs are personal, and yet oddly the 'same' as well.

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There is a school of thought that teaches us that when we identify the OTT i.e. I am unlovable.

Relate to the OTT, rather than from it.

We can then release the attachment to the OTT, as well as the aversion to the OTT.

For example -

A child is told that they are no good, useless and worthless, every other day.

-sadly, this is a story often told, by many.

As this child grows a set of OTT have been programmed into the mind-body of the now grown adult-child.

I am no good.

I am useless.

I am worthless.

etc etc etc

The adult-child now has an attachment to the OTT.

But also you would see an aversion to those OTT as well.

I am no good <- the attachment.

And, I hate that I am no good <- the aversion. The judgement for having the OTT in the first place, keeps us attached to the OTT.

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Not all beliefs are limiting.

All beliefs are fluid.

They are mutable - liable to change, as all things in existence are!

But...

How do we release the OTT?

Thats what we're most interested in!.

I am going to share a few things of how I am learning to release all of the OTT that once ruled my life, and would love to read yours as well!.

1) Refer to the OTT being in the past. If we keep on affirming the OTT in the present moment, it stays in the present moment. By writing and talking about the OTT being in the past, youre correcting the memory. REWIRE!

2) I AUGMENT positive memories. Whatever they are, whenever they happened. This is why I actively look for things to be thankful and grateful for. Appreciation, heals! And thats now science...if youre interested in the research about this, let me know!

3) I have learned to ask for help, and to RECEIVE it graciously, whenever it comes to me. And, it always does.

4) I SMILE and LAUGH more. Theres research for this too!

5) I have changed my eating habits. I EAT WELL now. I am now on the Guts and Psychology Syndrome foodplan GAPS. I used to be obese. No more.

6) I EXPRESS in healthy ways - dance, music, write..

7) I take time out to LOVE - my family, friends, my dog bundy, nature..

REMEMBERING to LOVE is a biggie!.

And, whatta 'bout you?...

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Discussion begun,

Greetings all,

IMHO.........​

I believe we find loving kindness inside ourselves. It's always been there we just can't see it or the world and certain life experiences train us differently. That can change.

Empathy is extremely hard to find inside yourself........by yourself........i have learnt buy showing empathy to others, although extremely hard, shows you where your empathy is hiding. Then once you find it....well.....you'll just know. Its like a light that just switches on.

Ott can be attached to actual pain as well. Many people with major illness not only have to deal with pain, OTTS and symptoms like cognitive failure (my major symptoms can cause psychosis) when this happens even trying to find an OTT is......well......i can't find a word because it brings tears to my eyes. I just had full body goose bumps after typing that.

Breath

I am ok

Its just a thought

Let it go

Bring back my happy thought

My boy

Ok better now.

That is why it is so important to be getting professional help. Keeping your mind open to any help or information is also imperative. KAITOA talks of " cerebral "..........thats him exactly. Hahahaha joke... Peace bro. But filling your head with to much is just that - you need to attach your thoughts to some kind of reality.

So if you are capable of challenging OTT......great. but its not just in the mind, you must do it in life too.

If tonight you say Im getting out of bed at 730am. Then do it.

Push through this and make your thoughts realities.

But in moderation

Step by step.

Working with you

Going to make a wrap for lunch.

Matt.

[CompulsiveLiar]

Hi Matt.

I'd have to disagree with you on one point, and may Kaitoa, as well. I guess Kaitoa is a very intelligent man, but he is has also shown me kindness, and thats more than I can say than most. So I dont think that he is all cerebral. If thats how he saw himself in the past, than thats in the past, like he says. But, I think that he's been very kind to me, and maybe he should see that for himself. I appreciate the fact the he checks in to see how, I am. I read his messages and writings in the poem section. He doesnt need me to stick up for him but Im glad that he's here.

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Hay CL,

Jokes bro. We are all here to help each other. Humour is what bros do. He will be proud of you for sticking up for him. Humility is good for the soul. We and you should try more. I understand your sense of humour is difficult to find. I can help with that.

I proud of you for sticking up for him.

But do you see the connection between how you see things, how I see things and how Kaitoa see things?

If we judge each other harshly then we are not helping.

I was agreeing with him.

Have another read.

If you have any questions, ask?

All the best

Matt.

[CompulsiveLiar]

I did read it again, and he said that he was like that in the past, and that we shouldnt be like that. You said thats how he is, like he is still like this. He isnt like that anymore, is what Im saying. He showed me kindness. I dont know about you but he's been good to me. I think he is a very humble person, even though he has his own troubles like the rest of us. Its just that we all have different ways of seeing others. My therapist taught me that all thoughts are reality, and I think Kaitoa, says the same thing that all our beliefs come true for us. I cant seperate my thoughts from reality because the thoughts create reality - Is that right Source? I didnt judge anyone harshly. I just said my piece. Its okay to disagree, is what Kaitoa has taught me. That used to be a big problem of mine but I am learning to say what I feel is good for me to say. I have a sense of humour as well. Its just very dry. And thats how I like it. Ive read your other post and I know you are bros, I like that alot. I guess I will just wait to see what he says. This is just my opinion on everything and my therapist told me that its okay to share your opinion

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And I'm proud of you

I accept you

Your opinion is valid

Peace

Brother

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CL,

How was your day?

Matt

[CompulsiveLiar]

I get where youre coming from. Im just appreciative of his help. I have a good therapist, and he has helped me alot but when I started doing the therapy I thought that I was alone. The thing that made me realise that I wasnt was when source wrote to me. It was in his first three words of telling me that like me he had been through similar experiences. No one has ever reached out to me like that always just me on the outside and the ASPD has gotten me in alot of trouble. When he said that he did not judge me I was amaazed always people have judged and I can understand why but he told me that he doesnt want to know about my past. It feels different to have someone in my life that doesnt judge me. And he has shown me that he is more than just cerebral like you say because he has a big heart. I think he just needs to see that more. Youre both good guys. I have read the other post and I wish I had brothers like that. he doesnt need me to stick up for him because Ive read all hois posts I know you can do that for himself I know that you were just having jokes but I guess I just want him to know that I think that he has big heart and a big mind too. We just have to know that for our self.

[CompulsiveLiar]

I had a good day today Matt. Evrtything went good. Which is a change. Ive been doing a lot more of what you guys have been writing about like my own hwjt and stuff like the OTT. And, Im doing it slow and steady, but I feel good. And thats really good for me. And you?

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You are right bro,

He is completely understanding and when he commits to a bro than that is what he will do.

Like you he reached out to me.

How was your day?

I don't know how to help you, but i care for you too. Thats must me. I joke and act silly. It's laugh really and you to can call me a silly goose. I'm good with that.

Really, you can trust me.....if your was bad say so.

I will support as a friend.

If you need to vent....go for it.

Hay its Friday night and I'm having a day off myhwjt.My day was ok

MDOGG

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