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SourceShield
Community Member

Greetings!

This post is about LIMITING-BELIEFS, or as me and my brother Matt now call them, Old Thought Thoughts - OTT.

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This post will most likely not appeal to many people, because I am writing about our beliefs that we have about life and ourselves, that we all have had for much of our life.

Our beliefs are personal, and yet oddly the 'same' as well.

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There is a school of thought that teaches us that when we identify the OTT i.e. I am unlovable.

Relate to the OTT, rather than from it.

We can then release the attachment to the OTT, as well as the aversion to the OTT.

For example -

A child is told that they are no good, useless and worthless, every other day.

-sadly, this is a story often told, by many.

As this child grows a set of OTT have been programmed into the mind-body of the now grown adult-child.

I am no good.

I am useless.

I am worthless.

etc etc etc

The adult-child now has an attachment to the OTT.

But also you would see an aversion to those OTT as well.

I am no good <- the attachment.

And, I hate that I am no good <- the aversion. The judgement for having the OTT in the first place, keeps us attached to the OTT.

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Not all beliefs are limiting.

All beliefs are fluid.

They are mutable - liable to change, as all things in existence are!

But...

How do we release the OTT?

Thats what we're most interested in!.

I am going to share a few things of how I am learning to release all of the OTT that once ruled my life, and would love to read yours as well!.

1) Refer to the OTT being in the past. If we keep on affirming the OTT in the present moment, it stays in the present moment. By writing and talking about the OTT being in the past, youre correcting the memory. REWIRE!

2) I AUGMENT positive memories. Whatever they are, whenever they happened. This is why I actively look for things to be thankful and grateful for. Appreciation, heals! And thats now science...if youre interested in the research about this, let me know!

3) I have learned to ask for help, and to RECEIVE it graciously, whenever it comes to me. And, it always does.

4) I SMILE and LAUGH more. Theres research for this too!

5) I have changed my eating habits. I EAT WELL now. I am now on the Guts and Psychology Syndrome foodplan GAPS. I used to be obese. No more.

6) I EXPRESS in healthy ways - dance, music, write..

7) I take time out to LOVE - my family, friends, my dog bundy, nature..

REMEMBERING to LOVE is a biggie!.

And, whatta 'bout you?...

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THANKYOU SENSEI K,

My thoughts to challenge to are compassion, intelligence and perfectionism.

So complex that I cannot get my head around it.

But i accept that it's me and I will be working on it.

Aphineny.

Because I sure everything and understood myself.......accepted that this one will need time and thought and help.

Any imput would be great full.

Nice to see you here shreddy!!!!!

Have a good day all

Shake n bake

Matt.

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Community Member

Im relying to my own post because it doesn't even make sense.

This morning was ruff for me. Everything was very messy in my head.

To make some sense of that is impossible.

OTT - I don't like feeling sick. When I feel bad and post stupid stuff...I think everybody is laughing at me.

NPT - everybody is allow a bad day. We are all in the same boat and there is no judgement here.

Thanks guys

Matt.

You're all good, brother!

MuchRespect.

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OTT - "Who I am Is Unacceptable. I Deserve To Be Treated Badly By Others. Life Is Hard Work. I Don't Trust Myself. I Am Not Good Enough. I'm Going To Fail Again!"

NTT - "Woah there nelly! That's a bit OTT!".

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This is an example of an OTT that is very familiar to many of us, I'm guessing.

Or at least, a similar feeling and sounding negative thought-pattern.

They become like spiderwebs in the mind.

Collecting dust.

I personally quite like spiders, but when the spider has moved on and leaves the cobweb, we must then get rid of the empty cobweb.

So too must we regularly do a bit of mental 'spring-cleaning'.

Are there any beliefs in your life that aren't working for you?

Get rid of them...or more-so, get rid of the attachment to the bad feeling thoughts.

It's these feelings, as Kaz wisely mentioned much earlier - the addiction to a certain kind of sadness, that those of us that live a 'disorderly' life, are susceptible to most of all.

Chemically we're talking about cortisol - the stress hormone.

Remember that anything that 'causes' any type of 'stress' on the 'outside' of the body, will be producing cortisol on the inside of the body.

When we talk about being addicted to a certain type of sadness, we're talking about an overproduction of the stress hormone being produced on the inside, this is what we're hooked on...on a chemical level.

Cortisol.

Stress.

Anything that causes us stress on the outside, is also causing an overproduction of the stress hormone inside of the body.

Any type of stress - Real or Perceived.

Feeling "sad" for longer than two weeks, really stresses the body-mind.

This could lead to full blown depression if unchecked.

Feeling "tired" all day, everyday, really stresses the body-mind.

This could become psychomotor retardation, if left unchecked.

As we begin to learn how to listen to the body-mind the OTT will appear to come on 'stronger'.

It may even feel like you're being attacked by your thoughts.

Persist with challenging those negative-feeling thoughts, daily.

Your perseverance will be rewarded.

Believe.

We can discuss more 'thought challenging techniques' next.

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NPT - "I Am Grateful For This Moment. Life Loves Me, And I Love Life".

...and now we activate the NPT with positively charged activity...

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"Tolerance, compromise, understanding, acceptance, patience - I want those all to be very sharp tools in my shed"

---CeeLo Green
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Kaitoa.

Thanks bro,

I found that relaxation then a swim did the world of good.

I was much more positive and clearer after that.

Please explain the science behind all that.

It helps to understand why these things make us feel better.

Swimming boy out

Kazzl
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi guys.

Today's OTT - I've let the side down at home. Haven't done what I said I'd do. I'm useless and lazy.

NPT - No one's suffered and no one's upset. You can do it tomorrow, there's no deadline. I'm not useless. Lazy maybe, but that's OK sometimes. I had a nice nap and that's good for my head.

I like this. 😄

Love and peaceful naps to you all

Kaz

Matt,

Glad that you feel better now.

There's no reason to feel bad about what you posted, at all.

Rough waves, with the smooth seas.

Just as you have told others that there is no judgement here, that must also be offered back to yourself as well, bro!.

We would never judge you, Matt.

And, anyone that does...is not worth your time.

The thing is brother, when you really start to do all this 'soul searching' stuff, that you've been doing a lot of lately, this brings up feelings and emotions, that you may have avoided or denied was even there.

It happens to all of us, and this is where most people usually give up.

Because it can start to feel a bit uncomfortable.

Maybe, really uncomfortable.

So, we 'phase out'.

We fall back into negative behaviour-patterns.

You were feeling overwhelmed.

That's a horrible set of feelings, right?

You wanted to discuss acceptance, so then...it's time for you to accept that you're doing your best, Matt.

For real.

With every single thing that is happening in your life, you still manage to find time in your day to be here and support others on these forums.

Give yourself some credit, where credit is due.

We are all doing our best.

Based on all that has gone before us, and with all that we live with in our world, we are all doing our best.

These disorders and dysfunctions that we have lived with are hard work man!

Don't forget that.

So, to still be with us here Matt, I think that you're doing really well.

We all are.

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This is why we practise our different relaxation 'techniques', or whatever it is that you have in place that assist you to get through those really tough moments.

1) If the OTT are that persistent and bring you down for longer than a week, ask for professional help ASAP.

2) Have a support-network in place - Family, Friends, Online-Community.

3) Laugh more at yourself. We all muck up now and again.

4) If you've mucked up in a way that has hurt another, take responsibility for your part in the situation, and do what you can to make amends.

5) Respectful and healthy boundaries are essential.

6) Don't be scared to 'shop around', if the professional help that you have isn't working for you, find another, or another type of therapy. Customize your life, to work for you.

7) Accept that which we can't change, but have courage to work on the things that we can.

😎 Connect with nature, daily.

9) When you need to cry, let it all out.

That's what works for me...

BOOM

Kaitoa

Nice Work Kaz!

I love taking naps too.

HappySiesta my friend.

Peace

Kaitoa

Boom.

Panther

Miss Taurus. Thank you. Its good that my words havenot offended you. At times I struggle with being kind. You are very kind. Xmen are wicked!.

Source, I understand where Matt was coming from as well because there are many smart people here and I dont have a certificate of anything so definitely not a degree of anything. Most of my life I have felt like a failure. Matts a good man. Matt is very encouraging. I appreciate Matt.

Panther

PantherMan!

You get no argument from me Matt is a good man indeed.

We don't need to have a cert or a degree to learn how to release the attachment to these OTT.

I'd like to encourage you to also write your daily OTT, and NPT.

Worth a go man!.

PeaceOut

Kaitoa