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Confidence- how do you get it?

white knight
Community Champion
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Patience and confidence have something in common- you cant buy pills to get it. So when someone says "have some patience" you just try to go slower or wait longer but you really dont "grow" patience do you? And when someone says "be confident within yourself, you have every reason to be" you try, you look in the mirror and say to yourself "I am ok, good looking and proud to be who I am". But are you then confident...straight away? I dont think so.

So how do you get confident?  ok, take a hobby. Say building model airplanes. You build one then it crashes. Then another and another. You join a local model club and get tips from others, learn all about charging batteries to what type of glue to use, fuel to use, etc etc.  One day a few years later a younger guy turns up and you can see he needs help. You are now level with the others in the club in knowledge and ability and you offer to train the new kid all about the hobby. This will result in you growing in confidence. But remember I said "years". It is never a quick process and growing confidence is usually a case of the download of being an expert at something or many things.

I've met over confident people that are expert at only one thing, it could be politics, craft, carpentry, mechanics, plants etc. These people are often not confident in other ways like knowledge of relationships, geography, mathematics etc. So these people, expert at one thing are restricted in confidence. You see them fire up at a BBQ when you ask them what they do and they can talk forever on their chosen passion or work but otherwise sit back and keep quite.

I used to tell my daughter to be worldly like me. It was sort of 'tongue in cheek' comment but in fact it was true. Due to my several mental illnesses I couldnt hold down any job long term.  So went from job to job, bought and sold cars, travelled Oz willingly and dated more times than I drank soft drink. This wealth of knowledge that came with my exploits made me "worldly'- confident.Sure, at a BBQ if the topic is overseas travel, I'll be the quite one. Never left Oz and dont plan to.But on many topics I can comment.

If you dont have confidence then a range of experiences will be good for you.Pick anything you havent done and do it. Sports, change your job when you can, study another subject, study mental illness (that will put you in the elite 10% lol) ..ask questions.

When your knowledge grows so does your confidence. And your cant buy that knowledge. It's priceless.

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AGrace
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Perhaps it starts with self worth and self esteem, Self Esteem and Self Worth can be rebeuilt, here are a few tips on how... 

Through Unconditional Love.

Start by identifying and surrounding yourself with people who believe in you. Hearing others tell you you how much you are valued is a pretty good indication that you are a good person. Begin to accept that awesome people love you and value you. This is the first step towards believing it yourself self.

Remove yourself from toxic people/situations.

Often it is a situation or a person who is sapping your self worth/esteem. So change your job, play for a different team, stop seeing your emotionally abusive friend or family member.  It might seem like ‘running away’, but the relief you will feel at removing yourself from the toxic situation or the toxic people will be all the indication you need that you’ve done the right thing.

Have goals written down. Big goals, little goals and some in between.

This way, when your value is shaken, or completely stripped bare, you can reach for your list and accomplish at least one goal, even if it's just getting out of bed in the morning. Sure, having people by your side to encourage you is great, but the greatest boost to self worth is when you push through and achieve something, defying what/who it was that destroyed your sense of self in the first instance.

AGrace

 

geoff
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Champion Alumni

dear Tony, once again another great post.

So the question is what comes first confidence or patience, well patience creates confidence, but they still go hand in hand, so is this right?

The old saying 'patience is a virtue', as I remember my grandmother (?) saying, but can also be found 'by once caught twice shy', maybe we have learnt the trigger that actually caused it all.

Patience takes time and a great deal of effort, which you can never buy, it can't be, so it's not for sale anywhere, not in the shops, not at a market, not on the computer, because you have to learn how to gain this. maybe because you have been burnt by a bad experience, but it's also learnt by thinking logically and then making a sensible decision, knowing the outcome.

But we can't forget that once we do have patience, our confidence well and truly kicks in, why, because we can tell a young mind that if they do it their way the repercussions will be disastrous and they should do it this way, and whether they take our advise or have to literally do it the hard way is up to them, but it's a lesson for them to learn.

As Amber has said self esteem and self worth are needed for confidence, however someone with depression their experience which also extends to their confidence is held down, the dog is sitting on it, so they don't give a damn, they don't care, so their ability to pass on their wealth of knowledge and past experience lays by their side.

Sure they have had patience, and when they are depressed they still do, only because they don't give a damn, and want to be left out of it entirely.

Is this correct or has anybody done the opposite. Geoff.

white knight
Community Champion
Community Champion

Hi Amber and Geoff,

I too would be interested if younger people with depression also have low self esteem, that they go hand in hand?????  If so is depression a place of safety for the mind?

Then there is the question- do they feel very confident when out of depression ?

Low self esteem....such an interesting topic. There I go again- trying to save the world. I was warned about that 25 years ago ..

 A quote off the internet:

If you have low self-esteem, your beliefs about yourself will often be negative. You will tend to focus on your weaknesses or mistakes that you have made, and may find it hard to recognise the positive parts of your personality. You may also blame yourself for any difficulties or failures that you have.

i believe that self esteem and self worth are related to mental health. As for your question : do they feel confident when out of depression?

i feel more confident but the underlying self esteem issues are still there which ultimately result in my down fall

Kezza

Jo3
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Kezza

  I don't have confidence and my self esteem is very very low.  I don't love myself and I guess to be able to have self esteem and confidence you have to believe in yourself and love yourself as well.

It's hard to love yourself and feel confident when all I think of is the negatives and mistakes that I make.

How do you feel confident when depression takes over and takes all the positives away from you?

 

Jo

Hi KezzaA,

Hypothetically, if we eliminated people for a couple of weeks....would our depression lessen? I think it might.

I believe that people, negative abusive and abrasive people, are a depressants main fight to hold their head above water, to survive.

People can be bullies, gossips, nasty, threatening, ,manipulative, sneaky etc.

So not only do we need to try to move our concentration away from negative thoughts feeding our low self esteem, but we have to combat other people and their hobby of crushing us. I wonder how many people think their depression just comes and goes but all along the fuel is input from people?

So I believe if someone is deeply depressed their first action should be, to identify any toxic people in their life and move them to the nasty basket, cease interaction.

As you know, I like to read.  I have been reading a book and it has got me thinking. It talks about being dependent and independent. Here is a section of the book I found interesting

If I were physically dependent - paralysed or disabled or limited in some physical way - I would need you to help me. If I were emotionally dependent, my sense of worth would come from your opinion of me. If you didn't like me, it could be devastating. If I was emotionally independent, I would be validated from within. I would be inner directed. My sense of worth would not a function of being liked or well treated.

That all makes sense to me but how do you move from dependence to independence?

i certainly agree that we would be much better off if we could eliminate certain people. I was very happy at my workplace until a new person started. I believe she has been very nasty towards me - whether she has or hasn't is not really the issue  - the fact is that she is no good for my mental health. My strategy was to stay out of her way, but that action in itself is seen as being a sign of mental illness. 

Kezza