Victims of narcissism

white knight
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Narcissism meaning - selfishness, involving a sense of entitlement, a lack of empathy, and a need for admiration, as characterizing a personality type (Oxford). One of the most powerful tools a narcissist can use at their disposal is triangulation.

 

As with the above such descriptions are easily available on the internet. What is a problem for many people is that they might not realise they are the victim of a  narcissistic person and the narc might not realise they are using weapons like triangulation to achieve their needs. 

 

Triangulation of which I've been a victim of in my family is a method whereby one person enlists the support and strength of another in a dispute between them and another person. Triangulation is "bringing out the big guns" to override someone they wish to dominate.

 

So, classic example- At 27yo I dated a girl not of the religious flavour my mother liked. I argued to mother that it was my choice and when young - she had hers. A few days later my sister would approach me and almost word for word push the same agenda. Then I picked up my GF only to be told my mother had spoken to my GF's mother about it. She spoke to my GF and my GF suggested we split up. In fact that occurred a few days later. 

 

Being the victim of a narc is like being in a straight jacket with your life because it is being controlled by them and sometimes you dont even know it. You might feel you are the black sheep of the family and this is evident when your siblings or cousins are treated like they are untouchable... these are the "golden children". They do no wrong ever. Any favours you do as a child of the narc will result in a never ending drive to please by you, ultimately wanting to be a golden child also, however, sadly, you wont ever reach such heights 

 

It all becomes more difficult when a narc parent has a side that you like/love. In my case my mother had a nurturing side that was present until I could think for myself say 16yo. From then on all my thoughts were challenged as a form of domination. At no time were my dreams and creativity encouraged let alone my decisions. 

 

How to navigate life with a narcissist?

 

You might need to accept this person is toxic and leave their life. If not certainly create distance between you both so you are not in their primary focus. Either way clarity of a narcs behaviour can be achieved through a therapist. 

 

Living with mental challenges is hard enough but add a narcissist to the mix and you will feel bullied and controlled.

 

TonyWK

 

 

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Walls
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In the early 2000's I took a shift-work Job that I was overqualified for. At that time I had a few physical problems, I was exhausted and I realise now that I was depressed. It was 4 person shift with one shift supervisor and 3 technicians of which I was one. There was one fellow who I later came to think was an overt narcissist. Fuelled by jealousy he was constantly carping and whinging about my performance. I think the supervisor was fearful of saying anything in support of me in case this fellow turned on him. I was told that members of other shifts would not work with him because of his behaviour.

 

Anyway eventually the supervisor started to disparage me - he had either turned against me or had become overt in his desire for me to leave. After 10 months of this I asked for a shift change because their behaviour became too much.

 

During this time I sunk further, becoming more depressed, and after, with prompting of my wife sort help. I also was suffering from gall bladder problems - since taken out, and found out I had diverticular disease.

 

I still battle sometimes but life is much better.

 

 

white knight
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Hi, 

 

Thankyou for your account of working  with a narcissist. It sounds like a slow form of torture and we go to work to enjoy using our skills only to be tormented by other workers.

 

Sometimes you have to protect yourself. This thread below might help.

 

Fortress of survival part 3 (workplace) - Beyond Blue Forums - 454587

 

It's good you overcame your physical issues. Shift work however is not a good job to have. I had 4 - 12 hour shifts then 4 days off. Midnight to noon then noon to midnight. It was terrible.

 

TonyWK

Moonbeamer
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Wow, I can completely empathise.

Yours has similarities to my experience of narcissistic family members.

My earliest memories are of my narcissistic grandmother verbally abusing me. The constant refrain : 'I only say these things because I love you!". What a horrible legacy to give a child!

Narcissism was normalised in my family, with bullying and abuse described as love. The legacy is not just sad memories. It took well into my 40s to see the bullying from 'friends'  and partners for what it was - wasn't it just like that 'love', so conditional and always granted after abuse, I knew all my life?

Started standing up for myself and those 'friends' hated me for it. My family hated it. I was disowned.

There was never any love ever given by a narcissist in the history of the world.

Hi welcome

 

How interesting. For some to be so clever to use "love" as a lever for advantage. To extract control, to claim to a child that their abuse of you is to prove their love for you... extraordinary.

 

It almost must feel being disowned was doing you a favour. But of course it hurts deep.

 

Eventually, you standing up for yourself would be out of character but necessary. Then you lose more. That's because they took you for an easy target.

 

How do you feel now? Do you recognise a narcissist when you meet them?

 

TonyWK 

21_23
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Hi, thank you for your writing regarding Narcissism.  I have recently left a person who I consider to be a dangerous narcissist. I am struggling to comprehend both the depth of his deception but also the calculated way he is now behaving  (and I think has been for years). 

 

As a result of emerging from the relationship,  finding out some of the things he was up to and then really grasping the reality of the person who I loved, my mental health has been suffering terribly.  I feel utterly gutted, silly, naive,  anxious and deeply scared and just awful. It isn't just normal 'break up' feelings for me, because I was duped and manipulated, severely gaslit for a few years and bullied into feeling a certain way.  I tried so hard for so long to make things work, and all the while he was pretending for money. He is now fighting me legally, refusing to get a job and still living off me. 

I know that I have to fight, but I am not sure if I can make it. My insides are a sad, broken gurgling mess. I feel exhausted, stupid, weak and worthless

white knight
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Hi welcome

 

I'm so sorry you havent had a reply and it was by chance I stumbled upon your post.

 

How has it progressed since you posted? Assuming it hasnt changed yes you can put a stop to all this stress, the only way is to leave. The real problem with manipulators is that they dont stop doing it and are usually unaware what they are doing is wrong and harmful. They cant negotiate nor keep an acquaintance going. 

 

Separation of house isnt easy. So there is only 2 options, leave and take some furniture with you or none at all depending on the situation or tell him to leave. In the latter case if he doesnt leave and is abusive you can attend any police station to apply for a court order banning him from within a certain distance and other contact. That way he has to get others to collect his items you place under the porch/carport so no contact is possible with them also.

 

I hope to hear back from you.

 

TonyWK