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Depression: dog vs black dog

Sea-n-sky
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Some guy elsewhere in this forum, asked the question "How would we describe depression if it were a physical creature.

What a sensible question to ask.

The guy who asked, must be an intelligent guy, a guy with a future of success.

I can answer that question, but would first like to remind everyone that many famous

and successfull persons have experienced depression. (Burton and Taylor come to mind)

Indeed it seems likely that depression is a precursor to success, even to victory, in most dramatical terms.

The late Winston Churchill himself said he had been afflicted by deep depression for much of his life.

He called it Blackdog.

Therefore I will call it that too, when considering it as the "physical creature". Most human beings can relate to the dog, and will recognise the animal as being of varying temperament according to breed. The wolf is a dog, as is the dingo. Likewise the poodle, the pekinese and the labrador.

On the one hand, we have the wild feral destructive canine, whilst on the other we have the loveable domesticated pet.

Clearly therefore, depression can be represented by the dog.(Blackdog).

It is, all dogs, merged into one.

The loveable domesticated pet today, and a destructive feral  tomorrow.

If you own a dog, you train it. If you do not do that it will not become the loveable domestic pet you may desire. It may become something different entirely. It will likely become a menace, in fact.

The first step in training the animal is to treat it in precisely the same way as you would like it to treat you.

That way, the dog will become your friend - and yes, blackdog can be that too.

In training your dog, you feed it morsels of reward, treats or titbits if you like, when it behaves/responds as you would like it to.

Blackdog is no different.

Returning to Winston Churchill, Did he win World War II ? No of course not, but he was a leader and inspirer amongst allies, perhaps guided by Blackdog, the friend.

Blackdog, is no longer my demon.

I might be again one day, and if it is, I'll just remove the cause, if I can.

My pain is now greatly reduced, because of that. I even jog a bit now, (when walking).

I have to, in order, to keep up with a friendly blackdog, which is running ahead of me. (metaphorically speaking) 

If it can be true in my case, Why not yours ?

Cheers,

Sea-n-sky.

 

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Sea-n-sky
Community Member

Hi CMF,

Well absolutely.

The black dog at the coffee shop taught you something which sometimes humans find difficult.

Don't be afraid of it, as it will dominate your life if you are. You must face up to it in order to overcome it, not necessarily to defeat it, for when mastered, blackdog can become a good friend, even a desirable attribute when properly controlled and trained, - as indeed any dog is.

Fear is an essential human emotion, it keeps us safe, but when it becomes prolonged and uncontrolled it will destroy us.

Make blackdog your friend. It can become that, but only if you really want it to be that way, and you do whatever it takes to achieve that goal.

I found acceptance and humour (laughter) the most successful of tools , but it took a long time to realise it. SO NEVER LOOSE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOUR, it is so important. 

That coffee shop is important to you, but seek out other places as well, otherwise the coffee shop alone may become boring and it won't be great every day. That would be unrealistic to expect that - staff changes, staff stresses etc., they all happen with varying degrees of effect.

Be happy also in the knowledge that you others to stand up for - they and that is important also, as I am sure you will realise. 

It is a fact that the human being always serves others better than they do themselves - but you must not forget to look after yourself also - be kind to yourself, and reward yourself at each positive step on the road to recovery.

A coffee, and a good laugh, can sometimes be all that's required. Sometimes just a little bit more - maybe just a bit of support and appreciation from your children if they are old enough, - that sort of thing - they all work wonders. Look after them and in all probability in time they will look after you likewise. That's better than pills, I reckon, though pills may possibly assist sometimes.

Good luck .

Sea-n-sky.

 

 

 

 

  

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi,

hopefully we will find out by middle of term 4. Yes I need to email her, the paper trail is very important, also I get anxiety at the thought of speaking to her or when I see her number come up on my phone. I can also say what I need to better in an email, I don't like confrontation and forget what I want to say. 

Gee I feel anxious just thinking if him going back after next week. 

Sea n sky,

maybecwhen I feel anxiety I can use blackdog, my friend,  to back me up. He can sit there and growl at the person causing my anxiety lol. 

Cmf

Sea-n-sky
Community Member

Hi CMF,

That's it !!!!!!!!

You've got it - in the metaphorical sense.

BD the friend will back you up, will motivate and inspire you.

Winston Churchill is the perfect example. Of course in his case BD became the friend of all  humanity which valued freedom and put down the tyrants.

BD can be a formidable attribute - you just have to learn how to master it.

It appears you are doing very well - slow steady progress - that's what's most important. Steady as she goes, - as they say.

Cheers 🙂

Sea-n-sky.

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

HAHA, another real life big black dog at our coffee shop his morning. it sat there quietly. I've not been feeling great the last few days.

Was this another sign?

Sea-n-sky
Community Member

A sign ?

Well yes it probably was.

A dog it seems is definitely required. It doesn't have to be completely black, black and white would be fine.

Cheers,

Sea n Sky.

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Well today there was a black and white spotted dog.

hmmmmm.......it's definitely telling me something.

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

My 2 older kids are with their dad this week. My daughter just rang me so I could hear the argument between my son & his dad. To hear my son so upset made me sick, he says he's walking home tomorrow he won't stay there. My daughter was crying because of them yelling. I almost drove over there and brought them both home. 

My baby daughters father has extreme anxiety which started almost 4 months ago. He cant get rid of it, it's like a post traumatic stress. I'm trying to help him when I can. We r never on the same page, things just don't work out for us  My coffee shop has been closed for 3 weeks reopens tomorrow.

Im so depressed, feel sad for my son, hate my ex, never on the same page as my baby daughters dad, have a thumping headache  

I just give up  

Neil_1
Community Member

Hi CMF

 

Welcome back to the forums, but I just wish I could say it under slightly better circumstances.

 

With incidents like this, it really can play heavily on our emotions and affects us massively – because our children mean so much to us and we want only the best for them and for them to be happy and comfortable;  supported and loved.

 

When you say, ‘older kids’, what ages are your son and daughter who are staying with your ex?  In the heat of the moment, your son may have said he’s walking home tomorrow (or today), this is something of a concern though as if he’s going to go through with this, is there a possibility you can contact him to see how he is today?

 

It’s great to hear that you are trying to help out with your baby daughter’s father with his anxiety – but what I’m hearing from this is that he may seem unwilling to be seeking out help for himself – is that why you are not on the same page?   Because without him being proactive on this, I don’t believe he’s going to be making much progress on his condition;  HE’S the one that needs to be chasing up his own help.

 

CMF, I hope I’ve been able to write something above that has been of semi-usefulness to you;  and above all else, I do hope to hear back from you on this.

 

Kind regards

 

Neil

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Neil,

Thanks for replying.  My older kids are 13 (son) and 11 (daughter).  I have called him a few times today to check up, hes miserable but ok I think. 

my baby daughters father is definitly trying to seek help himself and has tried many different approaches. I can only help by listening and giving advice on what I think as I have been there done that.  he does appreciate it.  when I say not on the same page I mean we never seem to want the same things at the same time and things just don't go smoothly. we were going to go out for dinner last night but he was a little later than I thought and I had a thumping headache so I started cooking at home and he just left.  it may be partly his anxiety and my depression neither one of us want s to heap too much on the other..

on a positive note my coffee shop reopened today so im hoping that getting back into a routine will help and I found some absolute bargains at an opshop so that was good. I need to collect kids school books and buy shoes etc so im a little anxious about finances but then who isn't 🙂

CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

My poor son is miserable. The yelling continued tonight. I don't know why my ex wanted them this week. He is working my daughter goes to work with him, my son stays home alone and for punishment had Xbox and computer taken away so he's sitting at home all alone. I'm thinking my ex did it to impress the girlfriend , to look like a great dad who wants his kids there, as he is not doing Nything fun with them so what's the point of them being there?

he be haves so differently in front of her, it's such an act and the kids see right through it