All is good in the end

[CharGrilledChar]

If everything was alright after a family discussion, then why would Psychologists exist?

If everything was cool after Psychology sessions, then why would there be Psychiatrists and medications?

If everything was fine after Psychiatrist sessions and medications, why would there be other therapies available?

I don't know.

[CharGrilledChar]

Some people like me, just need the whole package.

[Unbeliever]

If only we lived in a "one shoe fits all" world. Things would be so much easier... wouldn't it!

Boring perhaps... but certainly easier.

I'm not entirely sure if you are actually asking questions and want genuine answers or just making a statement. But for the sake of interaction on this thread you have created I'm going to assume the former.

Families CAN facilitate important functions that a psychiatrist simply cannot provide. They often don't of course... which then can make a 3rd party extremely useful. Sometimes there are things that you personally cannot discuss with your family because you don't want to cause issues where you live or with people you regularly associate with. This is another reason that an outside 3rd party can be useful. Also trained professionals can offer perspectives that might not occur to "regular" people... potentially perspectives that might be helpful to you.

But psychiatrists are not "all-knowing" or "all-powerful". They have limitations in regards to helping people. The main one being that if someone is not ready or willing to listen and implement what they learn in sessions... then no progress can be made. But there are others as well. Sometimes a persons problems are simply outside their expertise or experience of dealing with. Sometime people expect them to "give them all the answers" and "provide all of the solutions"... which is not why psychiatry exists. But more to give you the tools to do that for yourself. Sometimes the problem can't be solved in just a few session but require years and years of sessions.

Medications serve a function. But again they are not a "1 size fits all" type thing. More just another potential tool in your toolbox that can be helpful to some people but not everyone.

So why would other therapies exist in addition to the things above?

Because for some people they are required. Because some things are more effective for a positive outcome for some people more than others. Because every individual that needs help has issues that are entirely unique to them and therefore require assistance entirely unique to them.

Because you, me, them, all of us are not the same. Our situations are not the same. The specific aspects we struggle with are not the same. The stage we are at within our personal problems are not the same. The intensity of what we are dealing with are not the same.

Because there is not a single universal answer to all of the different questions that each of us is asking.

That's "why".

[geoff]

Hello CharGrilledChar, and a warm welcome to the site.

What we discuss with our family and what we say to our psychologist are two totally different discussions, and although we want to tell our parent, for example, is not all the concerns that we are able to discuss with our psych. as there are normally issues we're too frightened to even mention but it's something we can mention to our psych, who are independent and won't judge us, whereas our parent might make your situation very awkward in giving their own views, resulting in you being unable to participate in any event you had wished to be involved in, upsetting you greatly.

After a session, we may come out with a positive result, but with any mental illness there are too many different triggers that could easily spark a reaction you weren't hoping for, and one session doesn't mean you've overcome your depression of any type because you have to confront this trigger not once but many times and each time could be different.

Once you discuss any issue with your family, then are they going to say 'we've discussed this, so get over it', a psychologist won't do that, that's why you still need to talk with them, parents may not have the knowledge or the understanding to completely help you or part thereof.

Parents respond according to their understanding, but prior to the information is given to them may indeed be incorrect, a psych will discuss this in many different ways.

Even when you feel you've overcome depression, then it's best to go back every month or couple of months just to clear the cobwebs.

Best wishes.

Geoff.

[therising]

Hi CharGrilledChar

You definitely ask a lot of valid questions. I'm sure you speak for a lot of people when it comes to such questioning.

I suppose one way of looking at it could be - Some puzzles in life are so simple to the point where we could master them our self, on our own. Some puzzles are so incredibly complex that we need a circle of puzzle solving masters to manage the over all picture.

Human beings...hmmm...we're definitely complex creatures. With us seeming to function on a variety of levels such as mentally, physically and naturally, I suppose this could explain growing interest in the mind/body/spirit movement. If you change 'spirit' to nature, it can help explain a lot in some cases. For example, is it part of human nature to function well through inspiration or degradation? While inspiration naturally raises our vibe, degradation naturally brings us down. How our thoughts/psychology interact with our chemistry or biology also becomes a factor. All 3 factors, mind/body/nature, are highly interactive.

So, you could have a highly effective psychological coach, a highly effective biological coach (with a background in medicine, chemistry, nutrition/diet and even physics) and a highly effective spiritual or 'life' coach and, in turn, have a highly productive circle of people working together for your benefit. You could even say that without one of those people in the circle, making sense of the puzzle, the circle would be incomplete in some way. By the way, there are so many natural therapies out there which we don't think of as natural therapies. Take 'daydreaming' for example. It's something that naturally relaxes the mind and alters the chemistry in the body. While the chemistry involved in stress is not active, while we're daydreaming, this is a positive. Typically, as kids, we're taught daydreaming is a bad thing. Then adults go off later in life to learn how to meditate, not think, give the mind a break. Crazy when you think about it, hey. We could naturally 'meditate' when we were young.

So wish there was more attention given to physics when it comes to over all well being. How to get our cells more excited and vibrating at an effective rate but not to the point of hyper activity would help make for a lot of positive 'excitement'. In spiritual or natural terms, we'd be 'feeling the vibe'.

🙂

[Ggrand]

Hello Dear CharGrilledChar..

Your questions are so very interesting...

I agree with everything Unbeliver, Geog and therising have talked about...

It would be really good if a family conversation, a psychologist counselling session or psychiatrist diagnosis and medical treatment would ease the pain of depression, PTSD, anxiety in one or a few sessions...I really do as many others would hope that it was just that easy....

Unfortunately...Sometimes we are hurting deep into our soul...our souls can get broken and damaged due to constant trauma, bullying, people even families degrading comments to us...etc..,,,after this happens the healing our soul could take months, years and sometimes it never heals..

One of our brains top priority is to protect us from danger...If our brain has to protect us on daily or very frequent basis...the brain can get stuck in fright, flight or freeze mode....once our brain reaches that point....where it know it’s keeping us safe...it’s very hard to convince it that we are safe.....Our brain and thoughts which I believe are connected to each other...needs re training, takes time for our brain to accept that we are safe....especially if we never have felt safe...or after years of living in fear of your life and the need to escape that fear or situation ...it’s hard to unlearn our brains safety force...

Its like learning to count or the times tables and even reading...our brain simple cannot forget those things...and it cannot forget how it kept us safe for many years of trauma....and cannot forget the trauma, that re programmed our brain into fight, flight or freeze mode...

I know that talking to physiologist, Counsellors and Psychiatrist are a great help to some..but not others...

I wish like most people wish...that one visit...one talking session would be enough to heal us....unfortunately it’s not...it may takes years...of talking to a professional...who understands trauma...who understands the working of our brain...to re train our brain to help us in a way that we can start helping ourselves....

My kindest and most caring thoughts Dear CharGrilledChar..

Grandy..