See the doc but not just ANY doc

[Waterfalls]

Hi.

There are good docs out there, but unfortunately i dont have one right now.

I've learned the hard way that i have to 'shop around' and i cannot just place my faith in someone just because they are a psychiatrist.

2 experiences recently i consider as serious misconduct.

1. Psyche I've seen for years gives up, implants negativity that I'm not 'one of those people that can meditate', that it's 'my personality' = your fault. 'No pills are going to work for you'

Icing on the cake is when she fell asleep in my last session.

2. Tried new psyche. After the usual painful preamble he says 'I'm suprised you haven't offed yourself already. Had to call lifeline after that

Question: i want to report these people. They are in positions of power and i deem this an abuse of it. I'm afraid though as if I'm not anonymous, they have the money and ego to sue me for defamation of character and icant give proof add sessions not recorded. At the same time i dint want anyone else having this experience with these 2 doctors EVER.

[Croix]

Dear Waterfalls~

I'm sorry you have had bad experiences with these two psychiatrists. As you point out it can be a difficult thing to fine someone suitable you can entrust with your care. I read in your other thread you do have a sensible GP, something that really is a excellent base to go from.

While I think of it, if you are having difficulties with meditation you might like to try the free smartphone app called Smiling Mind. I've found it excellent, even if it does take a fair degree of practice. It certainly helps me divert my mind away from ordinary life, both by using it on a regular basis and also in response to anxiety attacks as they happen.

As to what action to take over your treatment. If it was me I'd walk away. I'd do so for a couple of reasons.

Reporting the matter to the appropriate professional body could be an end to it or it could be just a start. If they decided to take matters further based on your complaint then there is a chance you might find yourself in the midst of a legal action with the body, the practitioner, probably an insurance company and you all parties. This is not a desirable situation to be in. I'd imagine you might need representation of your own, an expensive business.

The other reason is very significant. Trying to live with a complaint or legal action over a long period with preparations and formal hearings is extremely stressful and I would not recommend it for anyone with anxiety or depression unless it was absolutely unavoidable.

You have written above you needed to contact Lifeline after just one interchange. To go further would seem to me to be too much of a risk.

I do hope you are able to find someone you can trust and interact with

Croix

[geoff]

hello Waterfalls, I'm really sorry to even know that something like this has eventuated, and totally agree with what Croix has said, because once you start something like this then you're going to have your hands full with different lawyers contacting you and plaguing you with demands and what all of this is going to do is make your MH deteriorate, not for a short time but longer than you would ever wish for.
The only way you could proceed is if you knew anybody else who has been treated this way and wants to join in with you to begin a complaint, that's if they want to do this, never the less you can still make a complaint to 'https://www.ahpra.gov.au, which stands for Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency, then an investigation will begin, I believe you will be protected by doing this. Geoff.

[Waterfalls]

thanks geoff and Croix for your responses - do appreciate it

frankly the furthest I'll go probably is what I've just done which is venting to my GP about it where the referral came from in the first place. I think going to sleep was sufficient feedback for him to consider himself NOT putting that one on the list in future if he's referring anyone else to a psychiatrist. My GP is nice and helpful and I hold no grudges there but we met an 'impasse' therapy wise so then the referrals started.

I've only just found the thread about finding therapists and will have a read

I just had to vent this somewhere

[blondguy]

Hello Waterfalls

Its good to speak to you again. I didnt know you had been through what you have. Croix and Geoff have vast experience on what you have posted.

I have had depression for many years and understand where you are coming from as I had a similar experience.

Just putting my hand up as a sign of support to you after what you have been through

There are many super gentle people on the forums that can be here for you. I am just one of them...

My kindest thoughts for you

Paul

[Croix]

Dear Waterfalls~

Venting here is exactly the right thing to do, it performs an important human function, so when you need to we will listen.

As for having an impasse with your GP over treatment. You have found out it is not plain sailing getting a therapist, and speaking just for myself I'd think I would get more benefit from interacting with someone reasonable that I believed was on my side, irrespective of how the 'therapy' was going.

Again for me knowing there was someone there is therapy in itself. Having doubts, apprehension and worries over a therapist would negate any good.

I hope you can sort something out, please let us know how you get on

Croix

[Waterfalls]

Thanks so much to you both...

I can recognise my thinking is warped but i actually consider the neglect i inflicted on the poor woman is criminal.

It is 2.5 hours until the scheduled time for this call. It will probably come down to the last minute to decide whether to go ahead.

This is a dangerous move for me, believe me I've tried to prepare for worst case etc scenarios. But hearing it direct may well undo that prep.

It has not helped that a friend of mine just texted basically saying 'don't want to talk to you unless its productive, so no wishy washy stuff'. Wishywashy = pics of animals and things growing in my garden/depression. So my official friend count on this level is now zero.

Wish me luck. ..all the best

[Croix]

Dear Waterfalls~

I'm sorry you are having difficulty with that friend, though from what you say there is still the possibility of talking/texting.

I'm afraid I'm confused (not hard to do I admit)

Would you like to say what call you mean?

Thanks

Croix

[Waterfalls]

Oh no, I've posted in the wrong thread... my last msg was meant for the ' calling ex - dumb and dumber thread..

[Croix]

Thanks Waterfalls~

At least I've not lost it completely:)

Croix