Staying well

Support each other to stay well, from mindfulness, sleep, diet and exercise to reducing drug and alcohol use and coping with difficult emotions.

FAQ

Find answers to some of the more frequently asked questions on the Forums.

Forums guidelines

Our guidelines keep the Forums a safe place for people to share and learn information.

Pinned discussions

Sophie_M Sleep and Mental Health
  • replies: 0

Many of us have struggled with bouts of troubled sleep, and needless to say, these periods of nocturnal restlessness can be utterly overwhelming and exhausting. Sleeplessness can filter into every aspect of our lives: our ability to be present, remem... View more

Many of us have struggled with bouts of troubled sleep, and needless to say, these periods of nocturnal restlessness can be utterly overwhelming and exhausting. Sleeplessness can filter into every aspect of our lives: our ability to be present, remember things, regulate our emotions, or to feel excited and energised… it can change the way we think and feel in such a significant and impactful way. Whether it’s due to big life changes, global pandemics, financial or work stressors, health concerns (like menopause), how much ‘you’ time you have, or even unprocessed emotions you weren’t aware were there – so many things can impact how you sleep. All of this goes to show that not only do your daily habits, routines, and experiences play a huge role in maintaining healthy sleep cycles, but so does your mental health. And frustratingly enough, your sleep also impacts and informs your mental health and daily habits. Like most things, it’s a very easy cycle to fall into. So, it’s imperative that we are gentle and compassionate with ourselves on our journey to understanding what is making us so hypervigilant and unable to rest in the first place. Studies show that journaling or mindfulness practices throughout the day, healthy food, movement, sunshine, connection with loved ones, and support from health professionals can help us to feel more grounded and able to rest. But we are curious… what has worked for you? When do you notice that your sleep is most affected vs. when you get the best rest? And is there a way you could practice regulating your nervous system more throughout the day to help promote better sleep at night? We would love to hear your thoughts! Let us know if you have any questions and be sure to check out our page on ‘Sleep and Mental Health’ for more guidance and insight into a more supported and restful night’s sleep: Sleep and mental health - Beyond Blue - Beyond Blue Looking forward to hearing from you! Kind regards, Sophie M

Just Sara A Bouquet for Pearls - share your appreciation for other members
  • replies: 715

Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful word... View more

Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful words. I hope this thread stays active through members giving out praise regularly to people they feel deserving, and therefore keep generosity of spirit alive within the pages of BeyondBlue Forum. My bunch of Red Roses (my choice) goes to Wishful for the following sentence; 'Personally, I see no reason to be praised in me, but I'm learning that seeing through the eyes of others can be more accurate!!' I so hear you Wishful. Just beautiful... Try to keep your leading comments short to focus on 'their' words. Choose specific flowers (or a gift if you like) to present to them. Sign off respectfully and sincerely. I hope this takes off... Spreading the love...Sara

All discussions

beyondblue_member My Story
  • replies: 1

This… this is my story… My name is Nathan and I suffer from depression. It all started when I was a kid. Growing up with two loving parents, albeit a severe lack of money, wasn’t that bad. So home life was alright. School on the other hand wasn’t. Be... View more

This… this is my story… My name is Nathan and I suffer from depression. It all started when I was a kid. Growing up with two loving parents, albeit a severe lack of money, wasn’t that bad. So home life was alright. School on the other hand wasn’t. Being born fourteen week premature meant that I was always a lot smaller than the other kids, which of course meant that I was at the mercy of the other kids in the schoolyard. They used to pick on me constantly, all the time. They called me tiny, midget, and pushed me around, stole my stuff and generally made school a living hell for me. At the age of eight, I was diagnosed with ADHD and ODD, which meant further insult. When I got to high school I noticed that apart from being smaller than the others, I was more different still. I decided to instead of being ashamed of my differences, to embrace them. I started wearing a lot of black, listening to heavy metal, and rejected all authority. That, of course meant that I received even more punishment from my fellow students. By the time I was fourteen it was unbearable. I started smoking as I thought it would help me cope. I started doing anything I could to get out of going to school, and when I had to go I would ditch. Due to the influence of a few “friends”, I began to steal stuff from shops, just for a bit of thrill. This was how my life went for two years. I started to get depressed because of a few failed relationships and despite always being a straight A student, my grades suffered, and I mean really suffered. I was diagnosed with bipolar and put on medication. The depression just got worse, I even considered suicide. Many times. I ended up leaving school when I turned seventeen, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I started Tafe, doing a business course. It was and still is, boring, but I still get my Centrelink benefits. At this point my depression hit its worse. I’m still going through my darkest times. I never bothered with self-harm; I didn’t see how physical pain could help me cope with emotional pain. But I know that there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. So I keep plodding on, even through all this pain. And it’s not just me. There’s a tonne of kids out there suffering from depression. They get up every morning and simply don’t want to do anything. They don’t want to go out and have fun like other kids their age. And it’s not just kids either. It’s adults as well. To them, us, life is a constant struggle. But here’s a shout out to those who suffer from depression. Although it may seem that you’re stuck in a deep dark hole, trapped in a constant darkness, a pitch black night, with no moon or stars to light your way, remember, no matter how long the night is, the sun will always rise to the dawn of a new day. I know that you can’t simply “get over it”, or “deal with it”. I know that beating depression is a long, hard constant battle. I haven’t beaten it yet, but I know others who have. It IS possible. You won’t have to fight for the rest of your life. There WILL always be people who WILL stand by you and never give up. There WILL always be people who WILL believe in you. Who WILL help you through this. Who WILL drag you out of the abyss on depression. I believe in you, so maybe it’s time to start believing in yourself.

Rosemary ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE
  • replies: 4

ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE This is my story: in the hope of helping people to understand, lessening the stigma, reducing the shame. I suffered depression as a teenager but I couldn’t talk to my parents. They jus... View more

ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE This is my story: in the hope of helping people to understand, lessening the stigma, reducing the shame. I suffered depression as a teenager but I couldn’t talk to my parents. They just didn’t talk. I suffered child abuse, though I didn’t understand it till years later. I blocked it out. When I left home I went to South Africa, which I loved; but while visiting Cape Town I was nearly strangled and raped, and when I screamed for help the hotel manager told me to leave. I tried to take my life whilst in South Africa and was too weak to return to work for some time. The doctor was kind; however there was no follow-up. Not long afterward while my husband, a chef (then my boyfriend), was at work I witnessed his mother climb over the balcony of her 8th storey unit. Back in England after our marriage, I again suffered dreadful depression but didn’t see a doctor because I knew nothing about postnatal or any depression. My son of 5 months developed meningitis and I would have lost him but for a good doctor and a professor at the hospital (young doctors suggested treating him for oncoming mumps). We came to Australia and again I attempted to kill myself (I remember saying sorry to God) and I was out of my body looking at dreadful creatures trying to pull me down into hell; I can never forget that. The doctor (presumably the one who resuscitated me) was really nasty to me; again I had no support. I was still extremely depressed but didn’t know why. My husband was an alcoholic and became violent and I became scared. One day at a railway station about 4pm after work I was attacked from behind by three youths. I was in shock, crying, bleeding, with torn clothes; but no one spoke to me. I remember thinking people on a previous train and people in a large building must have seen it but no one offered help. I was working at the YMCA and detectives worked hard to find the youths. When I returned to work, being pressured by my superior, I wondered every time youths came in, if it was them and spent many months looking over my shoulder whenever I heard voices. Around that time my son, who was previously so loving, got into drugs and breaking and entering; even my neighbours’ homes. It was a dreadful time lasting about four years. During this period my husband drowned and unbelievably was buried. That involved a year of my faithful counsellor and the coroner getting him exhumed and cremated so we were finally able to have a funeral service which I held at home, thanks to a very kind funeral director. My mother also died during my illness. I left work to care for my crippled mother. Sadly she was totally immobile and couldn’t even toilet herself. My son came with me, helping him back to normality. He was very good with his grandmother, helping me a lot. One day a pastor told me to see a doctor and do whatever he said. I didn’t understand. Then I had my first panic attack. I visited my doctor and he also saw something I didn’t, and he wanted me to have a couple of weeks rest in hospital. I thought that was ridiculous. However, I had another panic attack and he admitted me straight away. That was the beginning of several years of barely existing and a deep black hole. I became very suicidal and really wanted to die. I was in and out of hospital with serious attempts at suicide. I harmed myself and tried to end my life in several ways; I was sectioned to a secure facility twice, which was really frightening, sent to Perth on the RFD and my family was called in several times when it looked as though I wouldn’t survive. I was diagnosed with PTSD and later Borderline Personality Disorder: I understood PTSD but fought against BPD. I was desperate; I burnt all id and photos, locked the doors and tried to take my life again. However God had not finished with me yet. Apparently, two days later the door was broken down and I was found unconscious. I had E coli pneumonia. My doctor said I had finally done it. I didn’t respond to treatment, I was in an induced coma and again sent to Perth. In a final attempt to save me I was sent to a specialised program facilitated by a wonderful psychiatrist (who explained anti-depressants can be needed just like blood pressure tablets or any other long term medication), caring psychologists and counsellors, where I attended full time for about two years. I had spells in a ward attached to the program and was also again sectioned to a secure facility (extremely scary because I didn’t know when they would release me). While there a friend was discharged and killed herself. After the funeral her mum and sister came to talk to me to try to understand and get answers. Another friend tried to end her life , sadly she became a quadriplegic, so I visited her also. Nevertheless the program was excellent and I was with others who were suffering. We understood each other. We supported each other; we talked and talked and there was a genuine caring link. The program had many varying sessions, including talking about our pain, relaxation, craft and especially beneficial, CBT. How I wish there were programs like this all over Australia. I finally felt ready to leave even though they wanted me to stay longer. In hindsight I wish I had taken their advice. Recently I was again assaulted. The justice system letting me down (they changed the law but it was not retrospective), I had to struggle to finance two eye operations. Only recently I finally discovered what BPD involved. It was a tremendous relief; I now understand why I still suffer such emotional pain and feel the pain of others. This week I suddenly fell into a bad space again; it was a dreadful shock. I must practice self-care and find ongoing help. Throughout these events I have hidden behind a strong pretence and worked with Hospice – Palliative Care, teams visiting maximum security prisons, telephone counselling, face to face counselling and mentoring with Kids Hope (World Vision). People are drawn to the peaceful empathic nature of the gift I have been given - not for my benefit but to understand and listen to others. It is a responsibility I must not waste. Rosemary Hayflick (2004, as cited in Sigelman and Rider, 2009) is sceptical about the research focusing on extending life and discovering the secrets of youth. He says: “If our society would learn to value old age to the same extent as we presently value youth, then the drive to slow, stop, or reverse the ageing process would be as unthinkable as intervening in the developmental processes of youth” (p. 505).

anna3 recovery!
  • replies: 11

Hey, I'm relatively new to all this and only checked out the website this year. I just wanted to share with everyone what it felt like for me when I started to recover and get my old life back, because I remember how hard it was to imagine I went thr... View more

Hey, I'm relatively new to all this and only checked out the website this year. I just wanted to share with everyone what it felt like for me when I started to recover and get my old life back, because I remember how hard it was to imagine I went through my most recent bout of depression. 1. I can make decisions again! I no longer go food shopping and spend 20 minutes in each aisle trying to figure out what to get. 2. I notice when I do something well! I can feel pleased with myself when I finish an assignment. 3. What people might think of me no longer dictates what I do. I can chat to the friendly-looking lady on the bus and enjoy the conversation instead of wanting to escape. 4. I feel like the future is exciting again and I remember why I chose to do my course (Outdoor Education). When I was depressed I was not only feeling crap but also trying to re-plan my life around the new, unhappy 'me'. 5. I can help other people AND let other people help me, instead of feeling useless and totally reliant on my mum or dad. 6. I have energy- so much energy! I wake up and instead of the day seeming impossible it is now full of little enjoyments and happy moments. Sometimes I even stay in bed just because it's comfortable! (And not because I'm trying to hide) These are just the things that came to me as I was writing this. There are many, many more. I would be interested to read what things you guys noticed during your last recovery, or at the moment if you are not currently affected by depression. This movie is what made me want to write my list: http://www.youtube.com/movie/the-crash-reel -If you have a spare $6 and a couple of hours I highly, highly recommend it. It is about a 21 year old (same as me) guy who gets a brain injury from snowboarding. His judgement of what he can and cannot do is affected by his injury much the same as I found with my depression. Unlike him though, my illness was not permanent and I am now enjoying me hard-earned perspective and sensitivity to happiness. Thinking of anyone who reads this because they are trying to escape the constant misery that is depression. You're doing it tough. Try to be gentle and understanding to yourself during this period, that is how I first found some brief relief.

Scotty2013 Cyber Bullying
  • replies: 5

Hi guys for about 3 months i been a member on a group in Facebook, Last friday a Admin also who runs an anxiety support network sent the most nasty emails calling me a freak, and said she was following me around face book groups. I find this behavior... View more

Hi guys for about 3 months i been a member on a group in Facebook, Last friday a Admin also who runs an anxiety support network sent the most nasty emails calling me a freak, and said she was following me around face book groups. I find this behavior unacceptable from a professional, and its left me shaken . How do i handle this, i feel i dont trust anyone anymore., I dont feel like posting anything since then... Thanks Scotty. Here is a few things what she wrote many of the Emails... I find this disturbing for someone working in a Mental Health Capacity and It's left me very un trusting of websites now, and its set me back in reaching out. Below are the emails.. Group switched on, you unfortunately NOT. Just sit in your little house and play online 24/7.....in a way I feel sorry for you dude. Well I am off as I have better things to do and catch up with my friends at my favourite club. Enjoy cruizzziiingggg all your groups. you little piece of s*** Well guess what? I am going to be your worst nightmare. I am a smart person and a f**** hard arse who will give it you when you least expect it. Other members despise you freak. YOU ARE DEAD MEAT Adios amigo

Chickadee After recovery - decision making
  • replies: 5

Has anyone found that their ability to make decisions remains poor even after "recovery". I can make the small ones fine, like what to buy for dinner. But I am completely stuck at making any long term decision, especially if it will affect others or ... View more

Has anyone found that their ability to make decisions remains poor even after "recovery". I can make the small ones fine, like what to buy for dinner. But I am completely stuck at making any long term decision, especially if it will affect others or I can't predict the outcome. I freeze in fear of getting it wrong. For example, I've been trying to choose a paint colour for about a year, and planning a holiday to anywhere I haven't been before is impossible as I simply can't sort through all the options and simple decisions like where to stay. I don't remember being like this prior to depression, so am curious if it is an after affect of depression, or just me getting older! As background, I've had one episode of major depression four or five years ago for which I was treated (anti depressants, therapy) and I'd consider myself recovered. I had a previous episode nine years ago, post natal, that was untreated. Thanks.

Walter Anti-bullying! Pro-resilience!
  • replies: 3

Hello. This is my first posting. I'm writing this as someone who has been impacted by the suicide of a 29 year old daughter. A beautiful child and young woman who suffered from chronic depression for many years. In fact, she was under the care of a m... View more

Hello. This is my first posting. I'm writing this as someone who has been impacted by the suicide of a 29 year old daughter. A beautiful child and young woman who suffered from chronic depression for many years. In fact, she was under the care of a mental health clinic at the time of her death. I believe the primary cause of her depression was the relentless disdain and bullying of her peers during school years. I'm no stranger to emotional and physical trauma. Lost my mother to a drunken hit and run driver when I was 13. Family broken up. Sporting career ended by motor bike smash at 18. Great for many years but was then diagnosed with Parkinson's at age 60 and lost my daughter at 64. Our family was rocked by the suicide of wife, sister and daughter and has left me with a deep resolve to endeavour to use what I have learned to try to help others combat the negative impacts experienced in life with positive, resilience building resolve. My personal contribution, with help from a friend who also lives with Parkinson's, has been to use the power of song to give light, lift spirit and offer hope. So, with the humble and honourable intention of someone who will enjoy his 70th birthday tomorrow, and with moderator's OK, I invite you share my take on life by visiting www.preciousdiamond.net (see Emily) and www.eachlivingmoment.net.

Brendo82 The Big Book of Blue
  • replies: 5

I don't remember exactly when the thoughts in my head began to add up, stacking one on top of the next and creating the pattern that led to the most serious times in my illness ( see Brendon's Story originally posted 01/08/2013 ) and I guess then bro... View more

I don't remember exactly when the thoughts in my head began to add up, stacking one on top of the next and creating the pattern that led to the most serious times in my illness ( see Brendon's Story originally posted 01/08/2013 ) and I guess then brought me to this point. You can find analogies for how it goes. I think of the thoughts that go with each new episode of anxiety or depression or self harm as being a little story of their own. Each story then becomes a chapter of a book - made up of the thoughts you create for yourself to justify the hurt and the fear and chapter by chapter, the book grows. My own book over a quarter century became massive - so big it became like a physical weight on my shoulders - like a Stephen King novel of personal horror. The stories were and are constant and recurring. But day by day I learn to recognise them as just stories. I don't have to read them. I don't have to invest in them. I don't deny them or try to push them away or change them. They are neither good or bad - I simply just choose not to give them power over me anymore. Perhaps you could recognise some of these in your own experience of mental illness. "People will judge me." "Trying equals failure. It's best to not try so I don't become embarrassing." "I have nothing worth saying or contributing." And that old favourite "I don't deserve to be loved. I am unlovable." Don't buy in to these stories. They will cost you, as they have done for me, so much of your time and energy that the world will just pass you by. Write a new book instead, and fill it with all the things that you hold precious. It's worth it!

The_Real_David_Charles Mindfulness - does it work ?
  • replies: 1

Has anybody done a course in Mindfulness with any kind of result ? One way to prevent a slip into anger/depression is to be aware of small disagreements. If, at this initial stage, you can change your mindset from angry to accepting, i.e. "why did th... View more

Has anybody done a course in Mindfulness with any kind of result ? One way to prevent a slip into anger/depression is to be aware of small disagreements. If, at this initial stage, you can change your mindset from angry to accepting, i.e. "why did this car crash into me ?" to "there are thousands of cars on the road each rush hour and accidents sometimes happen", then a full scale depressive slide might be averted. Once you get fixed in the "anger"/"why me ?" mindset things will react the same way until enough negativity is there to do serious damage. Just gotta be aware of that initial angst. Hence, my question on Mindfulness - does it work the same way ? Adios, David. PS More personal examples obvioulsy take their toll more. Does hanging onto misery really define us or entrap us ?

Single_Soul Aarghh Depression!!! My Story....
  • replies: 4

Hello everyone! I just joined Beyond Blue and would like to communicate my experiences with depression and life thus far: Firstly, it is a relief and a god send that such a place exists here. This is a real and soulful place where anyone can express ... View more

Hello everyone! I just joined Beyond Blue and would like to communicate my experiences with depression and life thus far: Firstly, it is a relief and a god send that such a place exists here. This is a real and soulful place where anyone can express their feelings upon their life and current situation. I'm 32 years of age right now and to be honest lucky to be here. I've abused my body to the extreme (smoking, drinking, drugs etc.) seen many a friend come and go & I'm considered as a 'black sheep' by most of my extended family. Not too long ago, I went to bed and left the window open thinking 'If I have a heart attack and die tonight they can jump through the window instead of knocking the door down trying to find me, thus less trouble for my mother when she has to travel to my town to clean the house up'. That was my most recent rock bottom. A time before that, I got drunk at the local pub and as drunk people do, acted like a total fool and disrespected the girl that I was seeing at the time, and my mates. That was the end of short-lived relationship with that lovely girl. Furthermore, the next night I was feeling like total crap and called my mother and acted like an idiot. Not long after received a call from my dad saying 'do not call your mother in that state again!'. I lost the respect of my family and friends, I was alone and the closest to committing suicide ever in my life the next day. I felt like a total loser and that I had no friends or family who gave a stuff about me! As you can see, I have past issues with wanting/willing/waiting to end my life. It was a fight and struggle to straighten up! Drinking and drugs helped dumb me down and forget about the issues I had in life. Dumbing down came with it's consequences. I was spiralling in and out of depression, my health was failing and I never really learned to deal with the issues head on! On the positive side, I have a mother who has listened and supported me from day one! Thank God for her! She has understood me, bailed me out of situations countless times and see's the true me. Also, I have managed to be full time employed all my adult life earning a dollar (at times 50c), and I love weight training, mountain biking & bushwalking. It isn't all grim. I am a good person! I pride myself on my realness, honesty and integrity. Let me tell you this; If YOU are also a real, honest and good person (indeed you are!) ALL YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ARE VALID AND JUSTIFIED!! Let me tell you what else, YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS WORLD!! There is ALWAYS someone out there who can help and listen. Sometimes you just need to look ok?! Life is not handed to most of us on a silver platter. We must work hard, fight the temptations & not believe those who want to draw us into their negative whirlpools. We must control our internal dialogue (thoughts) because not everything we think in our minds is reality (especially negative thoughts about ourselves). No one is superior, not the bully at school, not the prime minister or even the queen! If someone does have a superiority complex it is because they are actually covering up their feelings of in-superiority. In the end, a person may be a member of this or that group but we are all INDIVIDUALS!! We ALL feel specific emotions (love, hate, jealousy etc.) that are actually not limited to this earth, they are experienced in some other animals on this planet and beyond! Aaanywho, I will continue to focus on the positives, my health and being a genuine real person who feels. I will project my genuine self (soul) and try to understand and see the real person (soul) in everybody I encounter. Check out my recent walk/jog in the bush dedicated to everyone here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OyIeP-HcZ8 Peace and love to you all

Denis Always be an optimist
  • replies: 3

Like many of you I suffer from depression,anxiety, PTSD etc but my mottos for survival is "Always be an Optimist" and":There is always someone worse off than you'. These certainly are platitudes but my personal story might help. I am a Vietnam Vet - ... View more

Like many of you I suffer from depression,anxiety, PTSD etc but my mottos for survival is "Always be an Optimist" and":There is always someone worse off than you'. These certainly are platitudes but my personal story might help. I am a Vietnam Vet - I saw a man shot dead in front of me - it only got to me in 50s.I was a Bandsman (musician) and the Bandmaster still kept conducting even when the shots were fired - stupid bugger. I am fortunately on a Vet's pension but in my last job as a consultant and teacher I was earning $900 a day in 2004, not every day of course. When I was born in 1949, I had an elder brother who had Cerebral Palsy (CP) - spastic they called it in those days.Five years later my sister was born - she also had CP. My other sister has her Masters in Nursing. I have been married threee time sao I do understand those issues -0 my wife and I have been married