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ANGER -> are you reactive or mindful when responding to people? *New members are very welcome to contribute
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Firstly I want to thank Karen, (Ggrand) who ignited my idea for this thread. (Not pun intended lol)
Are you 'reactive' when confronting someone? Do you run away, or step back and 'think' before you speak?
These are important questions about anger and especially rage. I'm sure everyone who visits these forums will have at some point in their lives experienced out of control reactions or even 'inaction' that they regret or question afterwards. Eg..."Why didn't I say anything?" or "I shouldn't have said anything."
Personally, I'm no stranger to the effects of reactive anger. It took me many yrs to address and finally defeat as an ineffective and damaging personality trait. I still struggle sometimes, but more times than not, I deal with it productively.
Anger's a normal animal/human reaction for survival. It goes hand in hand with Fight or Flight responses to keep us safe and alive. What modern society's done though, is create confusion, denial and fear in understanding what a 'threat' actually is.
There are so many 'rules of engagement' outlined in our laws and cultural niceties, we're stifled trying to identify when a 'real' threat is immanent and, how to approach matters effectively...nature vs nurture.
I think this is a discussion we really 'need' to have. It plays into our recovery and how we want to live our lives in peace with confidence.
Are you known as an angry person, a fence sitter or passive/aggressive for instance? These are all tied into our responses to internal or external anger. For the sake of this thread topic, I'd like to keep anecdotes etc to personal experience and not about 'others'; to look at ourselves for answers.
I'm eager to hear your thoughts...
Sez
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Great question, in that it makes one examine themselves, and maybe chart some progress.
Unfortunately, I am rather reactive, though I have a long fuse. I think I've had 10 or so eruptions in my adult life, where I was justified in defending myself, but was excessive in my defense. Sadly, the last "event" got me into quite a bit of trouble, getting arrested when you were initially the victim, is rather confusing and depressing.
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Hey Gang,
Thought I'd pop in my two Centavos worth on this 'Anger Thing' ....
... I am presuming we, here on BB, are about getting better ...
I was taught a 'Healing Formula' from my Old, now dead, Raja Yoga teacher...which I won't bore you with here...but in essence is about the vital importance of learning and applying new tools, techniques and 'tricks of the MH trade' asap, to get over shit quick and get on with in-joying life..
There is no merit in needless misery and self suffering.
OMWARDS! ~ Buddhist Mantra
Flick SnotGrass
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Hey and welcome MMS;
I hear you loud and clear! 'Reactive' has gotten me in some tight situations in the past too; not exactly police worthy, but probably close to it.
These days I'm more of a step-back gal to avoid the reactive fall-out. Once words come out of my mouth, I can't shove them back in.
Stepping back and biting my tongue gives time to find mindfulness in the moment. That in turn provides space (away from emotions) to see the forest for the trees so to speak.
Silence can be a mighty tool actually. If people think they have free reign to talk it up, they tend to give away some pretty interesting material for future discussions, and sometimes even shoot themselves in the foot as far as defending their position goes.
It takes practice and patience to learn, but once stepping back's refined, peace comes. And, preoccupation with being 'right' becomes a thing of the past. I'm not saying not to defend ourselves; I'm saying we don't always 'have' to engage. In fact many people lose steam when there's no-one to argue with.
I think of all the times I was in a rage 'reacting' to comments - it was probably all for naught. Focusing on me and 'why' I was in a rage is far more compelling and insightful.
I mean let's face it; I'd rather walk away feeling at peace and seemingly lose a battle, than have my adrenal glands shot to pieces or have a reputation as an unreasonable bully.
Hi Flick;
'..the anger thing' as you've called it, can be the bane of some people's lives. If we don't speak up, we're not acknowledged. If we raise our voices, we're out of control. If we push a little, we can lose our audience or create a worse situation. It's a fine line, so it needs to be discussed.
Those tools you talk about sure are important. For instance, learning to argue properly is a gift. Apart from stepping back, I use words that express how I feel or what I want. "That hurt my feelings" is enough to let people know why I'm upset.
Or "Can you please stop talking 'at' me and allow me time to speak too?" This along with a calm demeanour and neutral face can help to keep energy flowing back and forth instead of one person hogging the lime-light.
Misunderstandings are among the most powerful contributors to anger. My new mantra? Keep it short, direct and tactful, or don't speak at all.
That's my 2c worth... 🙂
Sez
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Hi Sara.....my apologies for interrupting your thread for a second....
Hey Flick....As Sara mentioned you have brought up some good methods to help us help ourselves. This is my 34th year with anxiety/depression and I am still waiting for someone that has had success with a quick fix....as per your comment "to get over shit quick and get on with in-joying life.." It doesnt happen.
Maybe we can have some empathy for the various levels of anxiety/depression that others experience
Just my humble opinion Flick....I prefer not to proceed from a false assumption of a quick fix as it can have a negative effect on people's positive path to recovery
Paul
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Hi Paul;
"...I prefer not to proceed from a false assumption of a quick fix as it can have a negative effect on people's positive path to recovery"
You didn't interrupt Paul, you offered solid advice!
There's no such thing as a quick fix. It's step by step and a long haul, whether you're young, old, long time sufferer or newbie. At best, we can stumble upon a coping strategy, but we need to work at it to make it automatic.
Good pick-up Paul; no offence intended Flick.
Sez
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Wow!!
What a classic comment! Love it! You rock RUTH!
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Hey MMS;
I don't like to use the C word, but if it's how you feel... 🙂 I'm lucky I don't need Mood Stabilisers, I'm on arthritis med's that seem to interact with everything but my AD's and anti-anxiety pills. Thank God!
Are you reactive with anger or internalise it?
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Hi Sara,
Most of the time I internalize, though in some instances I'm reactive (when I'm attacked on a personal/physical I lash out)
And, I should be mindful of using the C word, thanks.
MMS