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BeyondBlue Tradies National Health Month
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Hi everyone, August is Tradies National Health Month, to highlight the importance of health and safety among Australia’s trade workers. Mental health and wellbeing is crucial to the safety of anyone in the mining or construction industries, so Beyond... View more

Hi everyone, August is Tradies National Health Month, to highlight the importance of health and safety among Australia’s trade workers. Mental health and wellbeing is crucial to the safety of anyone in the mining or construction industries, so Beyond Blue is hosting a special free webinar for our tradie community on Tuesday 12 August at 4.30pm which you can register for here. We know that Tradies can face unique stressors, with a culture of toughness and difficult job demands that can impact personal time and self-care. It can also be tough for partners and family members who aren’t sure how to support someone in a trade who may be showing signs that their mental health isn’t at its best. If you’re unsure where to start your conversation this is the space for you. Whether you want to share your own experiences, ask questions, or simply connect with others who understand what you're going through, you're in the right place. If you're seeking additional support, here are some resources: Hope Assistance Local Tradies: Home This Is A Conversation Starter: TIACS - This is a Conversation Starter Mates in Construction: MATES - Industry Based Suicide Prevention - MATES Don’t forget - our counsellors are always here for you on 1300 22 46 36. We’ll also use this space to post some of the questions and answers from the webinar discussion. Feel free to dive in and keep the conversation going. Thank you again for joining us — we’re glad you’re here.

Just Sara A Bouquet for Pearls - share your appreciation for other members
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Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful word... View more

Every now and then, members share a beautiful Pearl of Wisdom. How often do you think to yourself; "OMG that's great! I wish everyone could see this." Presenting someone with a bunch of flowers is a generous way of acknowledging their insightful words. I hope this thread stays active through members giving out praise regularly to people they feel deserving, and therefore keep generosity of spirit alive within the pages of BeyondBlue Forum. My bunch of Red Roses (my choice) goes to Wishful for the following sentence; 'Personally, I see no reason to be praised in me, but I'm learning that seeing through the eyes of others can be more accurate!!' I so hear you Wishful. Just beautiful... Try to keep your leading comments short to focus on 'their' words. Choose specific flowers (or a gift if you like) to present to them. Sign off respectfully and sincerely. I hope this takes off... Spreading the love...Sara

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white knight Vulnerable? Dwelling? Unprotected?
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Most of us are weakened by our mental illness. We are in the minority, we are not part of the majority and the majority rules. So add to that naivity of mental illness with pseudo medical expertise that results in "just snap out of it" comments we gr... View more

Most of us are weakened by our mental illness. We are in the minority, we are not part of the majority and the majority rules. So add to that naivity of mental illness with pseudo medical expertise that results in "just snap out of it" comments we grow frustrated. Futhermore if we decide not to counter/defend ourselves immediately inappropriate comments are unleashed we suffer the fallout from that in terms of regret, guilt and dwelling. Not to mention anxiety from future comments we plan to make...to counterattack. If you are at home and suffer a violent home invasion would you fight back if you had opportunity? If you were a paraplegic would you react if someone told you to "get up and walk"? Isaac Newton found that an action of force takes an equal reaction. The gravity of a tennis ball in your hand is a downward force. Your hand has an equal forve upwards to hold the ball stationary. So in theory if we apply it to our vulnerable lives, unless we counter other peoples words or actions we are sitting ducks and in a world where the strongest survive we better take action. If you have a reputation of taking abuse, such abuse will multiply The second step after realisation is developing strategies for self protection. A defense is highligjted in (use google) Topic: fortress of survival- beyondblue But we cant put up walls for every situation. We have to have a list of responses to verbally respond to the onslaught of the "crusher", the person that prays on the weak. Be prepared to limit your hurt and defend your sensitive and emotional fragility by countrring with direct phrases. Or you'll be walked all over. All questions answered. Tony WK

white knight Why social media is no good for you
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Facebook has in my case been my biggest Achilles heal in the last 3 years and on line forums before that. My problems with Facebook has, admittedly been my sensitivity, my not realising it is a haven for nastiness and my ignorance to how to use it. M... View more

Facebook has in my case been my biggest Achilles heal in the last 3 years and on line forums before that. My problems with Facebook has, admittedly been my sensitivity, my not realising it is a haven for nastiness and my ignorance to how to use it. More on that later. But my last straw with FB was this morning. Two friends I know personally, husband and wife, have each posted fresh posts about who is their best friend. The woman posted her husband as her best friend. Her husband posted another woman as his best friend. Time to jump ship here!! This is kindagarten stuff that should have been left at the sand pit. These are people over 50yo. Doesnt it all seem a bit..err...childish? I thought I had tried everything to make FB work. I defriended 140 "friends" earlier this year. I've blocked the toxic and the bullies, I've refrained from commenting when it would explode the topic. I've gone to the end of the earth...well it seemed I did. My problem is that I dont want to lose the service. There are long time friends on there that I value, that dont cause me harm and it is my only means to maintain contact with them. So, having said that I realised today that by clicking the "follow" button to make it "unfollow" I can still have contact if I want to but I dont get to be sent their posts, only their occasional comments. I'll give that a try. Pity there wasnt a half day class I could have attended 3 years ago to educate myself on how to use Facebook. It all has resulted in driving me to the garden. No I dont have FB on my mobile phone- I refuse to. I've also come to the conclusion Fb is not productive to my life enough to warrant it. In fact if I take an overview of the concept, it has harmed me in more ways than any other over the years, caused confusion and I would have been better off without it- period. I have a dear friend that works in therapy and I've consulted her on many occasions to see her view on FB comments made so she can steer me away from my over reactions. So I'm off to the garden, might cook some mini muffins, might play with my Fox terrier. And if I can try hard, I might just log onto Facebook only to see if there are any messages. Then log out. The Facebook game's final siren is near. Some of us have enough issues in life without so called "friends".

LilacGirl What's the best random act of kindness you've ever received?
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Hey guys, I'm sure there is already a thread for this type of thing so I hope it's okay if I start another one? I was wondering if people could share a random act of kindness they've received that still makes them smile. It could be from a stranger o... View more

Hey guys, I'm sure there is already a thread for this type of thing so I hope it's okay if I start another one? I was wondering if people could share a random act of kindness they've received that still makes them smile. It could be from a stranger or from someone you know. I'll go first and hopefully get the ball rolling: Once I was walking home alone at night and I happened to pass a group of 3 boys who all looked to be about 15/16. A few moments after we'd passed, I started to hear footsteps running behind me. I turned around to see one of the boys running back to me. He then started to ask me whether I wanted him and his friends to walk with me, so that I didn't have to walk alone. Even though we were going in opposite directions. I politely declined, since I don't really have any problem with walking alone. But I found it so nice because he seemed so genuinely concerned. I have so many stories I could have shared but I chose this one because people seem to think that young kids these days are really disrespectful, which really isn't true. Some of them may be. But I find that heaps of kids these days are really well mannered and considerate of others. But then I'm a little biased since I'm still young-ish. Anyways, would love it if people could share some more stories for me to read!

lilly2016 The sound of the rain doesn't last long enough
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I love the smell and sound of the rain as it falls onto the trees outside, it makes me feel protected for a short time. I try and sleep as much as possible so I don't have to think, I dream a lot and sometimes I wish I was stuck in that dream for ete... View more

I love the smell and sound of the rain as it falls onto the trees outside, it makes me feel protected for a short time. I try and sleep as much as possible so I don't have to think, I dream a lot and sometimes I wish I was stuck in that dream for eternity without the harsh reality of waking up and accepting things how they are and facing my worst fears.Tthe rain creates a blanket of security for me as long as I'm inside. When the sun is shining it makes no difference in my world, i wish it did. Having no interest in anything is debilitating you have no real discussions no enthusiasm and you come across incredibly boring, which is in my case.Everyday tasks take an effort and my body is tired as as is my mind. I need more hours in the day so I can dwell on the things that are causing this crippling pain so I can somehow come to a solution.

Miranda888 Advice please! - Getting rid of self-doubt/Setting boundaries
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Can someone please help me before I go crazy/send my husband crazy? My mum is a narcissist and my dad is an enabler. They show no interest in my life, she makes me feel guilty over nothing, they never offer to help look after my children or do anythi... View more

Can someone please help me before I go crazy/send my husband crazy? My mum is a narcissist and my dad is an enabler. They show no interest in my life, she makes me feel guilty over nothing, they never offer to help look after my children or do anything really other than drop in to our house for an hour when it suits them and talk about themselves. I have a fantastic husband and beautiful children. I also have a good career. How do I get rid of the self doubt though? How do I relax and feel happy? How do I feel good about myself? And how do so set up boundaries and not let them get to me? thank you

white knight The goal of happiness
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So you've been correctly diagnosed years ago, found the ideal treatment that could have included therapy, meds, exercises, meditation, spiritual discovery, better quality friends, a career change...even a tree change. The problem, as I found out abou... View more

So you've been correctly diagnosed years ago, found the ideal treatment that could have included therapy, meds, exercises, meditation, spiritual discovery, better quality friends, a career change...even a tree change. The problem, as I found out about 6 months ago, is going that final step- being happy. See, I'm now 63yo. I carried bipolar, anxiety, depression and dysthymia for 46 of those years without knowing it, the last 17 years battling to achieve some level of normality and acceptance of my disorders. But as I've never been a very happy person -how could I know how to be happy? Happy by my definition with anyone with a MI entails- acceptance of their illness as (likely) lifelong Stablility of medication Our MI is no longer prominent on our minds, taken over by hobbies, sports or even relationship contentment Laughter and fun mmm, laughter and fun? But, how do you have fun when you dont know how? You learn it! Most of us have a natural sense of humour. Pursue it. For me that meant obtaining DVD's of Mr Bean, I love Lucy and Billy Connelly. I also purchased joke books. By watching these comedians my anxiety dropped. It wasnt long before the subject would dominate the bbq with friends. The contagious need to joke around overflowed between my wife and I. That happy state leads to a tickle or playful fun. Suddenly friends enjoyed their stay not burdened by topics of MI....in my desperate need for understanding. We laugh together. What a change. This for me is the final frontier of happiness in overcoming (not eliminating) MI. For you, struggling with your new diagnosis or with depression could not dream of this possibility. It will take time, many years in fact but laughter can enter your life if you persistently go through the processes to recovery. Keep those psych visits, pursue the ideal meds dosage, allow the black dog to go through his visiting process then as he leaves then motivate yourself, change that full time job in stressful customer service for the variety of two part time jobs, rid your life of the toxic and dominating persons and ignore the stigma of MI. Give love. Then you will be ready to introducing fun in your life. A long journey with a happy ending. Laughter eventually, is the best medicine. TonyWK

Roughy A Slow Decline
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I’m nervous even starting this, I’m not one that likes asking for help. Im currently married, 4 kids, 3 dogs, large mortgage, shift worker, ex-fifo and largley a shell of how I remember my former self, before these and other challenges fell before me... View more

I’m nervous even starting this, I’m not one that likes asking for help. Im currently married, 4 kids, 3 dogs, large mortgage, shift worker, ex-fifo and largley a shell of how I remember my former self, before these and other challenges fell before me. I know I have been unhappy for a long time. I’m 38 now, and I can remember sitting at work 12 years ago noting that my enjoyment of life had been on the slide. I think from around age 23 is when the decline probably started. Back then I would have described myself as well known, socially active with a reasonable confidence level. I had plenty of friends but I’ve never had any really intermittently close friends or BFFs. I’d be invited to mates weddings but never be invited into the bridal party. I knew I had some quirks that held me back from ever going to that next level. Since that age of 23, I’ve noted a decline. Firstly I moved interstate with a then, new GF. My sporting commitment fell away and my shift work life started. In a new city I realised how few friends I had and how I was struggling to making new friends was a challenge. I latched on to some previous acquaintances and basically used them for about 6 years. I started noticing in this period, that socially I was feeling awquard. A feeling that was on the outside of most things and I never really wanted around. I would need to invite myself to social engagements. I never settled in this new city and because of this I always wanted to return home. Along the way I started working FIFO, I was/am very good at what I do, quickly climbing my way to a +300k job with ample time off. I made lots of new friends in this close knit environment, but the nomadic nature of the work meant friendships always had a time limit. Eventually after 6 years of being away, marrying and after the arrival of our first baby girl. I convinced my now wife to return home. I continued flying for work for another 10 years. On return, I naively thought I would be welcomed back into the old circles and that things would be as they were. But, the world hadn’t stopped for everyone else, and bar a group of 5, most people had moved on. I am never any good at staying in touch. Friends were having kids and life had slowed FIFO wasn’t helping in this regard as most people assume you are away anyway. Fast forward 10 years, we added another 2 girls and a boy. I finally made a decision to end FIFO because I was getting massively depressed by it. The work was ok but I knew socially it was killing me. I even gave up trying to make friends at work because I knew they would only be temporary anyway. I got myself a secure job back home on shift work. It was a massive change of pace and seems to take up so much more of my free time. In the 2 years I’ve been there, I’ve made good relationships with people but this hasn’t translated to friends out of work. Of the few friends that did remain, I’ve managed to let these mostly slip by to the point that I’d go a month without receiving any social phone call or message from anyone. The straw that finally made me write this, was seeing Facebook posts of my last remaining friends, at a planned family camping trip over a long weekend. 5-6 families, all with young kids, all my old mates. The following weekend, they are together again at a concert at a winery. Its embarassing when it’s noted by your wife that you weren’t invited, she is shitty with them but I’m not angry with anyone but myself, I’ve let this all happen. It it was then that I knew I’d hit the bottom, at least I hope it’s the bottom. If it wasn’t for work colleagues I wouldn’t be social with anyone. I feel sorry for my wife most, she is entitled to a better life. I mostly do nothing with my spare time other than argue. We have barely had sex in 5 years and I’ve all but given up on the relationship. If she said she was leaving I wouldn’t be surprised or even put up a fight. I know she’d be happier at least. Where to from here? I won’t go see a quack or shrink. I won’t talk to anyone about it so it’s not a brilliant outlook.

white knight Negatives to positives
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Much has been written about changing the processes of how we think. sadly thise needing such change are not the ones seeking it, it is often their friends/family that notice they are becoming annoying. Why annoying? Because when you are a positive pe... View more

Much has been written about changing the processes of how we think. sadly thise needing such change are not the ones seeking it, it is often their friends/family that notice they are becoming annoying. Why annoying? Because when you are a positive person you have no other way of existing. Furthermore a negative thinker, in order to change needs change from within, they rarely change from others recommendations, sadly. Such inner change is a journey within itself. That journey doesnt happen overnight, it takes a process Acknowledgement Learning what being positive involves Implementing changes Returning to positive thoughts and actions when you revert back Solidifying your new way of thinking. The exception is allowing for mental illness. MI will stamp upon positive thoughts, override it and you'll feel you are no longer positive. In such a situation wait for the right time to recover before implementing positive thought processes. Google Beyondblue Topic the timing of motivation Once you become a positive thinker the world is your oyster. Nothing can stop your progress. Beyondblue Topic 30 minutes can change your life Good luck TonyWK

CMF By this time next year I plan to...
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Hi all, This thread has been inspired by the program 'This time next year', a TV show where people pledge to work on changing something in their lives within the space of a year. It could be anything, overcome a fear, lose weight, learn a new skill, ... View more

Hi all, This thread has been inspired by the program 'This time next year', a TV show where people pledge to work on changing something in their lives within the space of a year. It could be anything, overcome a fear, lose weight, learn a new skill, overcome illness, get fit, anything at all. It doesn't matter how big or small it is, just something that's important to you. Hopefully, this time next year, we can look back and reflect on what we have achieved, with updates along the way. So I will kick it off; By this time next year... I would like to be back working or doing something with my life to feel more independent and better about myself. CMF x

Brett Letting Go of Perfectionism
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Hi All, I have spoken to a few people about high standards or perfectionism. The link between perfectionism and my mental health has been strong for over two decades. If I don't do a perfect job (in my mind) there is something seriously wrong with me... View more

Hi All, I have spoken to a few people about high standards or perfectionism. The link between perfectionism and my mental health has been strong for over two decades. If I don't do a perfect job (in my mind) there is something seriously wrong with me. If someone is looking at me, again, (in my mind) they are srutinising me and there is something seriously wrong with me. I am tired. I am trying to get used to doing a good enough job instead of a perfect job. It is taking time but I am already feeling the benefits. And if someone really is looking or staring at me then so be it; the problem is their's and not mine. My guess is that some of us worry too much about what we do and what other people think. I am not talking about doing the wrong thing or hurting other people. Instead I am talking (actually rambling) about lowering the care factor to a healthy level. If anyone knows more about lowering high or perfectionistic standards, or has something to add, please give me a reply. Kind Regards, Brett.