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G'day
I'm 57 years old and I'm embarrassed to say that after years and years of therapy,
Iv only ' got,' the huge extent of trauma my borderline/narcassistic mother affects me and iv just put boundaries down.
I've never been sexually abused.
My pain and my trauma enveloped me all my life. Iv been there for many other people for years but never met a person with such a tragic story as mine without sexual abuse.
For years I wanted to be close to my brother's but we were all equally abused just different.
My youngest brother is a functioning drug addict however he has a very successful business and he is spending his money on what not. I want to reach out however I don't know how to.
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Hi, welcome
A interesting topic so I hope I can assist you.
I'm 69yo, bipolar, dysthymia, told I'm likely to be under the autism spectrum high functioning. My father passed away at 64yo in 1992, my mother passed away 8 weeks ago at 93yo but I was estranged from her for the last 14 years. I always said that even after my mothers death she will haunt me like a little boy not doing as he is told.
My whole life involving my mother was up and down, stability was never there. One day 20 years ago when telling a friend of the turmoil my mother caused advised me to rear a book called "walking on egg shells" by Dr Christine Lawson. Well due to my conditions I've only read 2-3 books in my life so I googled it and read extracts. The Dr found that with Borderline Personality Disorder the sufferer could have 1,2,3 or all 4 personality disorders. (Google - queen witch hermit Waif). After a long time studying my mothers traits I concluded she had all 4 of them. I had to rely on my own research as she was in denial.
So, briefly, if I defied her orders she would become the witch and hunt me down to the end of the earth which could involve ringing my employer!!, she could be the matriarch (queen) and considered she "owned" me which meant she controlled my thinking, the hermit is her fears and that played on my empathetic character and the Waif, an interesting one... crocodile tears to get other loved ones to become my enemy.
So all that resulted in behaviour that was unacceptable to us 3 kids but more than acceptable to others like my loving father and other relatives. My mother ruined my 1st wedding and 25 years later a few weeks away from my 2nd wedding she tried ruining that as well. She controlled my father, so sad.
It's really good to read that you've "put boundaries down". With us kids it was either "in or out". So good luck with that but its at least a start whereby you know now that idolising her doesnt work. She might however show frustration because those boundaries are limits and if she is a "queen" she wont accept them. You might lose relatives if she tries to include your changes and demonises you. I lost about half my family.
To illustrate their "power" when my mother died she ordered relatives not to tell me she'd passed. I found out anyway. But even my closest cousin kept it a secret- oh the power she had over people!.
Your brother- we get this a lot whereby a sibling needs help or a spouse. If they dont seek their own help like therapy and/or medication then there is little you can do so better to drop a hint now and then and step back to save your relationship. Ongoing hinting is better than a kneejerk rejection that could end up permanent.
Us community champions are here regularly, just reply and wait until we log on again to see a notification. Sometimes members issues are ongoing and need more chatting, I'm willing to do that and try to help you more if you have questions. We are not professional medical staff so we reply with lived experiences for our best form of guidance.
Thankyou for your post, it will also help others.
TonyWK
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G'day thank you.
The exact book your saying, by Christine Lawson was a go to read book for many years.
So yes, your could say my mother is a witch in Christine Lawson's book.
Everytime you write about your Mother my eyes flickered in same same.
I feel, I mean we are talking many years of therapy, I used to pay my therapy by cleaning houses - I feel my 3 brother's were equally as abused. Even when I was a very little girl I would sleep with my youngest brother he was so neglected.
But this is the past.
Although i agree with you about therapy - there just gas to be something else I can do. Unfortunately I only see him doing me when I was 32. He is 50 today and setting himself for a bad day.
Perhaps I can send him a meditation ?
Probably medical.
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There are a lot of beneficial videos on YouTube. Since 1987 I've watched many from Maharaji Prem Rawat in particular "all is well" and "sunset" but they all have words of wisdom. That would be a good way of educating him just to send a link every week.
I don't know of any others 🙂
TonyWK
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I don't think that will help him. He thinks he's the best looking most intelligent, ra de rah.
Do you think I should send him a message or fo you think I should leave him alone ?
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Yeah, I liked your message, oh I can write when you wrote about your memories I was actually behind you nodding my head, tears occasionally.
I discovered just two weeks ago that iv been so soaked up in grief and trying to keep myself alive It has been selfish of me but I feel it's a full time job to be me.
But a
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One thing to remember when trying to help someone-
"Charity begins at home"
We have to care for ourselves first before we can care for others. Being an empathetic person is lovely but there are traps.
So, what measures are best taken towards your brother? Well ideally if your goal was to become his best friend whereby he will always have you as his first choice of contact is the best goal. This might involve not trying to get him off drugs until he is ready and asks you for help. It might mean if he is depressed he'll call you for company, it might mean he'll ring to ask you to accompany him to therapy and so on.
The common event with people that suffer with mental illness or drug addiction is that they are alone with no one to rely on, to trust etc. To fill that void is a major achievement.
Your reward? Well being humble you don't expect reward but one day in decades time he might say "if it wasn't for you my loving sister, my best friend, I don't know where I'd be".
But keep it measured so you remain strong.
Do you think you can achieve that?
TonyWK
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Wow wow wow.. .
Thanks white knight Tony
My brother I have felt definately falls into the lonely bit. I tried to get close to him and it was happening but then some terrible things emotionally and financially.
I will think what you will say. I have never cared about ego and who did what.
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some mental illnesses have traits. eg ADHD can result in financial mismanagement. Falling on hard time with money can be enormously depressing in a world that revolves around money.
What are the answers to high debt if he has it? Well there comes a time when paying off those debts is too hard and the assets are few. So better to go bankrupt whereby one only has 3 years to go without high loans. Small loans for white goods and essentials is still available though. It can be a sigh of relief for many people.
Emotional instability is a major issue. In my experience with roller coaster emotions is that often medication is administered and very helpful but of course it needs diagnosis and self help. I've seen people in jails (I was a warder nearly 50 years ago) - go off medication for illnesses like bipolar and depression only to spiral downhill.
I hope you feel well.
TonyWK
