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SourceShield
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Hey,

I'm taking a break from my studies for the moment, by sharing what I am studying and researching at the moment.

Keen for opinions, and reflections.

At the moment we are looking at Pathological Liars.

What do you know of this condition?

Can you understand how we would see this as a condition?

In the past, we have punished "the liar"!

And perhaps...rightfully so?!?

Who gets to be judge, and jury?

And why?

Do you understand the anatomy of a lie?

Lets discuss.

In my home, we learned that telling lies, sometimes kept us safe.

Sometimes, telling the truth, still got me a hiding!

So telling lies, became a negative-positive phenomena.

In other words, lies - the negative, kept us safe - the positive.

Have you ever experienced something like this in your life?

If the act of telling lies is normalised it can become a condition - a pathological condition!

The Cure...well for me anyway!

Just start telling the truth...start with oneself, and people that one trusts - Could be many, could be just one trusted friend.

My friend, Tricia, once told me that...You Only Need At Least One Friend In This World.

And, I believe that too!.

More is nice.

But trust is the key.

The door is ones soul.

We are the guardians of the Soul - The Mind, and the home of the Spirit - The Body.

Now, Im getting a bit metaphysical...are you into that?

I am.

But, that can be rather intense for many...

...because it involves looking at the whole picture - The Holistic Self.

We consider this to be the TRUE WAY to complete health.

Just stop me if this is of no interest to you though...

...I could write about this stuff...

...forever...

...and ever...

Amen.

What do you know about psychopaths?

Did you know that......they only make up 5% of the population...

...but actually contribute to 50% of the crime in this world?

Thats why I am doing what I am doing - in terms of my studies and research.

Not completely but a big part of it.

My research has 4 main branches.

I'll discuss that at another time.

But - Psychopaths, cost us all a lot of money!

Did you know that?

But...they are sick.

Some say incurable.

I am autistic.

They say that is incurable.

Some autistics are high functional, some are not.

Some psychopaths are 'functional', and 'some' are not...at all!!!.

We, as a society must address this in a serious way...lets discuss!

Or, not...'cause I'm gonna study the stuff anyway.

But I enjoy healthy intellectual-debate and conversation.

Peace.

MuchLove.

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Hi all,

Another thread that I have just found. I need to get out more. Hahaha

I Will try to catch up.

I have dealt with this in my work many a times. I probably have also unwilling contributed to it as well.

peace

Matt

Hey again Esse'

In my post this morning, I addressed as well as I could, the 'study' you say you're currently working on..psychopaths and creativity as a combined subject. That's where my list come's from. But when you answered my 'goal' question, you told of other issues which you bought up in the beginning of this thread.

Each subject is (mostly) independent of each other which confuses me. Pathological liars, sugar addiction, psychopaths, repeat offenders (criminal recidivism?) and people with autism (I'm assuming you mean HFA)

You state you're on the path to a PhD, but haven't said where you are (qualifications) or if you've done your thesis for instance; I have asked. You used the term 'we' when describing this current study plan.

I want to be completely honest with you because that's who I am. So I want to put something to you ok? All the above plus everything I've read from you creates one question for me.

If I were to combine these subjects and your personal information, would it describe you and/or your past and; how could 'we' use this to your advantage?

As you've said, you may well tell me to piss off. As a CC, my main role is 'peer support'. My profile pic depicts my determination, guts and resolve. When I'm focused, I can achieve anything! I see myself as someone who can 'bring out the best' in others if they're willing to accept my help and do the work.

You praised me for my ability to self assess and process unresolved/repressed emotion. I learned this the hard way (alone) It doesn't matter that it has a name, just that it works.

In my personal life, if I can't establish a person's intent or MO, I tend to walk away. Not being able to 'know' someone has its trappings especially re PTSD. Trust is the main issue of contention.

The last thing I want is to alienate you or cause uncomfortable feelings. The enjoyment I get from our contact is immense to say the least. However, your randomness is beginning to fall into a pattern for me.

I've worked with people who have HFA in the criminal justice, mental health, A&OD, housing and correctional systems. I want to be open and honest with you. I'm not biased or judgemental, though it may seem like it at present.

My intent? To help you be the best you can be...

I look forward to your reply Kaitoa...Sara xo

Sconner,

There are still a few things that I hold dear to me - some 'personal' info, that I am still keeping to myself.

I know youve asked - I aint silly.

Im just not ready to go there yet, but the more I do learn that you are trustworthy, the more I will open up, is that okay?

And this is why I wish we 'knew' each other.

I use writing as an outlet, and I use humour as a way to process and reflect.

Call it what you will - I 'have' them all - PTSD, OCD, Major Depressive Episodes, HFA...

And, I am ONLY JUST coming to terms with the brevity of all that.

The truth is Ive lost so many scholarships etc...because of my 'random brain'.

I'm self-funding this, but working with other colleagues from all over the world, that are also looking at creativity.

I guess from the outside looking it may seem like these topics dont fit together, but the link is creativity, thats what I am out to prove!.

All of it - the addicts, psychos and the like - I can 'help' with creativity.

And, now I need the proof.

I know youre not asking for a resume but this has all come about because of my random education and employment history -

Bachelor in Performance Art

Double Degree in International Studies and Global Communication

Masters in Cross-Cultural Communication...can you spot how totally random and all over the shop that is?

What career path was I expecting to get out of all that???

I was academically confused.

Then theres my work history...I have had possibly hundreds of different jobs.

Again, random all over the shop.

But then I discovered 'Creativity' in 1995...changed my life.

Fast forward to only a few years ago...and the HFA is discovered!

All of a sudden, I had proof, that all this wasnt just me...trying to be random, or wanting to be a 'weirdo'.

I had a great psych that set me off down this path.

I know that the areas that I am covering seem all over the shop but the overarching theme is Creativity - What Is It Good For?.

Sustainment.

Freedom.

Enterprise.

Expression.

Im here to prove that.

I know that seems like what-the-what-now???.

If you were here you'd see all the writings etc etc etc.

I use these forums because I have become rather misanthropic.

I have been a very selfish man.

Im a coward.

Im here in OZ because I am scared to face my 'destiny'.

I was born a leader of my tribe and people.

All this study and stuff, is my way of learning how to use creativity to bring about more good,'cause yeh, much of my life has sucked.

Brosif,

When I'm lost I look at the ground. Thats under my feet.

I sense a lot of self doubt in your last post.

Calmlyinterrupting

Matt.

p.s.

I also JUST realised that there is some info, Im not ready to give out yet because, I dont want people to look for me!

Kaitoa, is my Maori name.

My work is in my english name.

I guess if I give too much info away, some would be able to use that info...to track me down.

That makes me sound like a criminal.

I aint that.

I just hold this 'stuff' very close.

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Also, 'we' benefit from all this because...I am my own 'lab rat' - can you understand that?

If I am gonna tell the whole world that Creativity is what it is, people will want me to show them!

I believe that I can show them by my example.

So, 'we' monitor each other.

Its in our day to day life that all the answers lie...

I know some will find what I am about to say preposterous but the 'cure', or whatever you wanna call it, to all our 'stuff' - even the worst stuff like psychopathy and the untreatable like HFA etc, the answers that we 'seek' to move beyond all this 'stuff', is in our everyday life.

So we are monitoring how we are in our everyday life, but we can not be observed by 'outsiders', this must be as organic as it can be!

Do you understand that?

I get if its confusing.

The observer and the observed effect.

For creativity to 'work' just as I am claiming that it can, it must be applied consciously everyday, consistently.

Carefreely.

And, I am using my own life...as the experiment.

We report back to each other, on how its all going.

Does that help with the 'we' question?

I appreciate you.

Thank you for taking the time to care about me.

I'll understand if all this confuses the fudge outta ya, and if its best for us to stay in our own corner!.

You must honour your values, as I must honour mine.

I no longer desire cowardice as a bedpal!

I am here to be a leader of my tribe, and my people.

I accept that now.

MuchLove

Buddha teaches that self-doubt has its place...it can be a teacher.

This is merely a way for me to be honest and truthful with Sara, and to reflect sincerely of where I am at, what brought me here...and where I am heading.

Im going to be honest with you bro

I couldn't even start to understand the stuff you guys a talking about

I'm just trying to be a bro

Not offended at all.

Peace

Bro,

You funny goose!

It's all g.

I appreciate your care.

I now sense your self-doubt...of course you could understand what we are writing about, may take some time to digest it all.

But dont limit your intelligence.

Youre better than that!

Thats what I am out to prove with all this work with Creativity.

And, you arent 'trying' to be a bro, you ARE being an amazing bro!

Master Yoda teaches us - There Is No Try, Only Do.

You have done what any bro would do, calmly interrupt and check in on his bro!

ThankYou.

BrotherGiftFromGod.

All g.

I wish I had the time to read it all.

But I am going to be a little childish right now and say "it takes one to know one" nerdie nerdie nerdie.

Matt out

Excellent.

I love being a nerd!.