The world is overrated because of people!

[Jaibigrone907]

1) Society only conceives themselves and they don't try to understand others. Everyone's bias and no one can disagree with themselves typically.

2) People either cause your problems, they otherwise don't care, or they even potentially enjoy hearing about them with some.

3) Advice and support is usually cliché, interaction is superficial, often the only redirected recommendation is shrinks that leads to detrimental pharmaceutical treatment and involuntary clients who feel invalided and become victims. 

4) I can't relate to my nationalities culture, only since my generation globally is following a unified consensus to not be interested or believing in Christianity Religion or with being all under the same political left wing mainstream consensus. I find their indisputable with any of their popularised views and they argue with illogic. They project their insecurities too often and they can't have as much meaningful or broaden conversation, everything's usually awkward, weird, or whose cringe, a hipster, desperate and they feel things are worth addressing. I don't like their music since 2008, their too into Andrew Tate, women aren't prude. I only like older generations. 

5) The 21st Century is horrible, people are high consumers and overt materialist's, which than makes them more socially superficial, shallow, narcissistic, insincere. Their less emotional courtesy and manners today, people are more grandiose and with potential audacity to not care, it's too much with financial net worth and being entitled. I don't like globalism - diversity.

6) Everyone's more innocent until proven guilty and they won't take needed accountability, they have no humility to be wrong anymore, they treat sincerity and make it that your so humble or rare, to normalise to feel & be mental, fake and laugh at what's true or say that it's strange or weird, but to be guilty of the same acknowledged things. 

7) I couldn't relate to my father. I am a male cultural misfit Christian Fundamentalist and my father is a generic misogynistic that's chauvinistic, sexist. His got no issue with the bloke culture in my opinion and he is stoic and selfish, His not creative. He tries to vicariously live his sports team through me at times and he diverts his illiterate limits onto me that I'm dyslexic. His potential with rarer jealousy and puts his average mediocrity on a pedestal with being the bread winner and the family bill payer. His sister and family is narcissistic and with dysfunctional differences.

[white knight]

Hi, welcome

Interesting post. Rather than dissect every point I'd like to comment on the post overall.

Firstly, in my 20';s (I'm 68 yo), several times I pcked up my tent and headed for the hills on my motorcycle with the intent of abandoning the bike and living in the bush... somehow. After 5-6 days I'd return to the city. Then the last time I was cruising home and passed a cute farm house and wondered if that symbolised the answer- a half way point in order to tolerate the modern world and its shallow people? Eventually I moved to a regional area.

From a new quieter, environment I was able to regulate my life, my visitors and my input to the local community but it still needed tweaking because I still had involvement with toxic people intent on conflict. I'd been in the Airforce and a warder so conflict wasnt desirable. So it developed, I had to find new ways to protect myself from the toxic and mould who I interacted with.... take control. So fast track to a few years ago, for the benefit of my mental health I developed my "fortress", that resulted in ridding my life of some family members that were using triangulation, emotional blackmail and so on that they believed was ok and wouldnt take warnings. I treated workmates as temporary necessary relationships and held no special feelings, I was civil but not too inviting unless I really liked someones attitude.

But, I embraced positivity that I'd learned at 26yo at a lecture and I'd recommend such. Thats why when you mention modern times and the horrible things taking place in th world I think to myself - well prior to 1932 we didnt have penicillin, Cancer treatment, flushing toilets, a car or two for every house and so on. 

All of the above resulted in a fine tuned attitude that serves me to this day. 

I have a few posts below. I'd be more than happy to discuss this further. You only need to read the first post of each.

https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/fortress-of-survival/td-p/216226

https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/30-minutes-can-change-your-life/td-p/154525

TonyWK

[therising]

Hi Jaibigrone907

I'm wondering whether you've managed to find a spiritual circle of some kind, somewhere that offers you a sense of support and belonging. Personally, I've found the right circle can offer a chance to contribute as well, providing a sense of purpose to some degree. I agree with you in regard to the world being highly questionable in many ways. A circle can also support our sense of questioning, while also being able to provide some of the answers we might be looking for.

While I was raised Catholic, eventually there came to be something within me that was leading me to search for something beyond Catholicism. This search led me to a local Anglican church that seemed to offer more of what I was looking for, including a circle which held group meetings on certain nights. It was such a lovely experience. Further down the track, I began to explore more so mainstream spirituality which also offered certain ideas and circle opportunities. While I appear to be someone who jumps from one thing to another, I'd more so describe myself as someone who is a collector of inspiring and soulful ideas and a participant of circles that are about support, especially when the world gives us so many challenges.

One of the greatest pieces of advice I was ever given was 'Find your circle, a group of people who will raise you to discover who you naturally are'. I think when we meet with who we naturally are, this becomes a soulful and liberating experience. Do you know of any spiritual circles in your local area? Sounds like you could be looking for a strong and supportive Christian circle.

[Jaibigrone907]

There's a lot of other things that bother me about the world. The lack of sincerity, how it's more socially superficial, how everyone's more shallow and into generalisations, stereotypes. The reality of social norms trying to dictate what anyone should achieve, do, think or be insecure about. The conformity with this 98% normalised feeling that anyone has to feel less than celebrities just because their very rich and happen to be famous, even when they have nothing to do with most ordinary people. It bothers me more how they want to feel maybe flattered or have you with hysterical reactions if you meet them, too many divert their own flaws and insecurities onto others, it's being born sane in a world that's diverse, mental, everyone's unique and everything is subjective, but not when certain people vicariously want you to be them or when there's any consensus, you become to unpopular to be allowed to think independently with open disagreement. Everyone vaguely trusts their doctors as flawless experts and no one acknowledges that shrinks are narcissist's and how detrimental their pharmaceuticals are. I can admire celebrities if I like their music or acting ability, but I would want to meet them, I wouldn't know what to say or have really any questions for them, it would be such a rare thing to be around anyone of their status, but it's more the feeling that your made to feel like your just less of existent value, based on their fortunate achievements that are only relevant for themselves, the next person makes you feel jealous and their not even beyond mediocrity themselves.

[Jaibigrone907]

I meant to say that I wouldn't want to meet any of them. I can't statistically say how many people in the world enjoy others problems, cause them or don't care. I will just believe that decency and courtesy is very marginalised in any country. 

[white knight]

Hi again,

It's sad to read how you're struggling in life. I don't read much positivity from your post nor any sign that you've read mine and "the rising's" replies which tries to put you on a better track. 

This ultimate means imo that professional medical staff are required to delve deep to find out what's going on. If it's any relief, many of us here have done exactly that and made life so much better.

Regardless I hope you're enjoying the site and feel better venting. Your posts are direct and honest and that's appreciated 

TonyWK 

[therising]

Hi Jaibigrone907

I think just about every area of society has its spectrum. In psychology you'll have psychologists at one extreme who are big on bringing in the money while solving just about everything with pills, and then at the other end there are those psychologists who care deeply and work hard to find ways forward while wishing they had more time to offer their clients. There are celebrities who are humble, thoughtful and deeply caring, right through to those who couldn't care less about anyone other than who they see when they look in the mirror. While there are triggering people on the roads who fully believe everyone should give way to them, there are those who give way with a smile and a wave even when they have right of way. With young people who, at one end, have an emotionally detached self entitled and self absorbed way of thinking, at the other end there are young people who feel so deeply for others to the point where it hurts. From one extreme to the other in so many areas of life, it can be hard not to observe people at the most self serving end of each spectrum, as many can be rude, depressing, attention seeking and more. They are often the most outstanding people and not in a good way. The quiet achievers often don't stand out, those who achieve bringing us a smile, an opportunity and some sense of ease. For those who achieve the ability to feel, sometimes in painful ways, I feel for them while considering how the world remains an incredible place while they are in it. Where we look will often dictate who we find.

[Jaibigrone907]

I agree there's certain people that are surprising. But generally the world's worse than good, people care about sex and money, that's the main thing. Otherwise they are typically vain with their motives for most. The world is a place of unwanted conformity and often negative influence. People only normalise anything under a popularised consensus, they treat anyone peculiar or unique as being weird, different, rare, wrong or special, the modern term is wither their a hipster. Society always laughs about what's true and they just say if whatever's strange or that they don't know, even if they could say more. Socialising is small talk and it's all about petty, trivial things, people care too much about politics that divides society and their passionate about their beliefs that doesn't significantly change the world, no matter whose elected, the politicians don't deliver with most of what they advocate. People truthfully want you to be average, but they want everything for themselves, the world's hypocritical. Everyone is a Babylon nature and they wrongly hate Christianity, they don't read the Bible and adapt to it's greater values, morals, humbleness, humility, superior qualities.  There's more injustice in this world than unconditional satisfaction. The world also bullies you into modernist attitudes. Every nationality and society is xenophobic and insular with their own countries, their raised in one ignorant place to think their the right way, with any customs, beliefs, sports, personality etc. AEveryone idolises Hollywood trash celebrities that are pretentious, narcissistic, material, their immoral and entitled, with behavioural ugly audacity. Their overrated with whose popular today. The next person in society only understands themselves and they think you need their approval, with if your likeable, sane, controversial, intelligent, they try to define you with anything they say and think. If your average, attractive, yet they can't handle being told the slightest thing. Also how with the Google search engine, it's just all influenced by progressive politics and it's correlated to the media's narrative, so what statistics or articles you read, are just told the way they want you to know, rather than what's actually the truth. You can compare between them and the stories don't add up, through different ordered journalist's. Everyone works for just money these days, they don't care about being authentic to what their passionate career direction should be. Their willing to be insincere and selfish for the sake of income. A criminal can be in diverse ways, not just prisoners in jail, it could be a detrimental pill enforcing shrink, a high school bully or a negligent parent.

[therising]

Hi Jaibigrone907

While higher levels of consciousness can definitely feel like some form of torture, it becomes understandable how ignorance can be bliss. When we become conscious of a lot of the things that trigger us, it really can feel tormenting in so many ways and on so many levels.

I tend to wonder about people, wonder about human nature in all its forms. I've found it's somewhat less emotional to be an observer and simply wonder about certain people. I think this has come about through having better come to understand and manage 'disappointment'.

If I appoint a group of people the role of being thoughtful and they dis-appoint themselves from that role (through their words and actions), it's me who suffers through frustration, anger, intolerance, resentment and more. On the other hand, if I don't give or appoint them the role, there is no disappointment to be felt. I'm free to feel a sense of wonder, as to why they tick the way they do. Btw, I'll choose to give the role of 'thoughtful' to those who can fill it brilliantly.

It's of no interest to me to appoint caring roles to those who could not care less, to appoint inspiring roles to those who are degrading and depressing, to appoint roles that reflect higher consciousness to egotistical bullies and so on. It's a waste of my time and my focus. After many disappointments, I think one day I just woke up and thought 'I'm sick of this' or sick because of this, feeling let down, feeling disappointment. Then I thought 'How can I stop feeling this?' and that's when what came to mind was 'What are the appointments you're giving to people?'. Unrealistic ones, would be the answer.

[Ggrand]

Hello Dear Jaibigrone907,

I am sorry you’re struggling so much with society….

Their are kind and caring people out in society, who do their best to help others when the opportunity arises….also lots of people don’t work for money but volunteer many hours of their time to help the community and the less fortunate…..

I really do hope that one day soon, you will meet these kind of people instead of the ones you’re talking about…

My kind thoughts Dear Jaibigrone902….

Grandy..