- Beyond Blue Forums
- Mental health conditions
- Depression
- Reflections on our current health crisis
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Mark Topic as New
- Mark Topic as Read
- Pin this Topic for Current User
- Follow
- Printer Friendly Page
Reflections on our current health crisis
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
Hello there,
Just a comment..... but I've been asked so many times in the last few weeks , how I'm feeling about it all. I must also say that I am in no risky cohorts..... so maybe I have a luxury around that. But basically I wanted to talk about and see what others might be thinking, in terms of this whole thing. I, to be honest, have it at the very back of mind. Not that it's not important, but just that my Mental Health scenario always has to take precedence. (And in some ways, it would be nice to have the tiny luxury of focusing fully on this health crisis; rather than my mental health)….. so it would be good to see where are others are with all of this..... I am watching the wind (i.e. the virus) whoosh past me and watching it go by, but essentially, day-to-day, it is always about getting myself and keeping myself somewhere in the middle (emotionally)….. hmmm......
that's all from me, for now...… thanks for your thoughts
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
Just wanted to post a few thoughts...
There's certainly a hell of a lot of media attention on this issue. Even people who are normally very healthy and happy are getting worn right down into anxious messes. Their usual routines which give them meaning, purpose and keep them active have been suspended and people are not sure what to do.
I agree with Elizabeth in that it would be prudent for mental health organisations to really step up right now, but of course they're limited by their funding, and the economic fallout from this pandemic is already looking enormous. I think now is a very crucial time for people like ourselves with lived experience of mental illness to look out for our friends and family who may not be as accustomed to the solitude and isolation that many of us have grown accustomed and desensitised to. I appreciate that sounds strange, asking vulnerable members of the community to look out for the healthy, but we as individuals are in a pretty strange and unique position to relate to the struggles that they may be experiencing and to make a tangible, positive contribution to society in this way.
Some interesting perspectives on this issue that I've either heard or have occurred to me include the fact that global emissions are probably going down. Moreover, we may see a shift to more people working from home/online in the future which could lower emissions in the long-term (less commuting).
I feel strange saying this as I'm quite young, but in terms of world history the last few decades have been ones of extreme consumerism, waste and excess. An event like this pushes us to more austere living, which may harm the economy as we're not $pend $pend $pending our dollaridoos on consumer goods, but that economy is built on the illusion of endless growth which more and more countries are realising is not feasible long-term.
We've been on the cusp of a post-capitalist era for quite a while now, and I will be very interested to see how different countries seek to reform and rebuild their societies during and after covid. Already we're seeing massive economic stimulus as welfare. Just how different is this to a universal basic income? I can already sense idealogues from every corner of the political spectrum forming up ranks....
One other quick thought, I think it's amazing that some deeply religious states have put public health over religion and banned prayer in churches, mosques, etc. Where is their faith?? Really makes you think....
Felix
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
In response to the comment re churches stopping public worship. This is not lack of faith as much as caring for everyone. Our church was one of the first to stop church meetings in the interest of public health. We are still able to pray at home, read the scriptures at home and are encouraged to watch out for each other by ringing up and offering help. We're in isolation and have had calls checking if we need anything dropped off since we can't shop. Our church has provided resources to help us study the scriptures to help maintain our faith.
The basic doctrine of Christianity is to love God and to love our neighbours as ourselves. If all who have faith in God could unite in prayer to ask for guidance for as all esspecially our leaders to know what to do to overcome this crisis.
Secondly if everyone regardless of faith 'loved our neighbours as ourselves this would help. This means following the social distancing recommendations to reduce the spread of the virus, Looking out for the vulnerable, being extra patient with those around us because we are all under stress sharing our resources rather than stockpiling essentials & leaving others short.
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
Hi Elizabeth,
Sorry if what I said came across as harsh or dismissive of religion - I was running out of characters and couldn't really elaborate. I realise it's a very personal matter and can provoke strong reactions. I think it's great that you can find community, purpose and belonging within your church, and then share that support with others in the larger community.
I guess my comment was relating more to strange situation that religious leaders all over the world are having to make. Somehow, they're needing to reconcile public health with public prayer. To present some global examples, you may recall there being a mass prayer in Bangladesh recently, which is an immense display of faith and submission to God. Similarly, many Shia Muslims in Iran are continuing to pray at local shrines, much to the dismay of their nominally religious government which sees the risk to public health. Even the great Kaaba in Mecca was shut for a clean early this month I believe. How they'll handle the Hajj I have no idea.
If we look at the Vatican, they're transitioning all of their upcoming services to online delivery. To an outsider with knowledge of the science and the way this virus spreads it makes total sense to suspend religious gatherings, but I wonder how they can rationalise it in their own minds? Surely, as God's chosen spiritual leaders on Earth and as his faithful, they would be protected should they continue to hold services? It seems to me like there's some serious cognitive dissonance going on here.
Also, if I might just take my cynicism to another level entirely, if a religious congregation were to have an outbreak within its ranks (I think this happened in Malaysia recently) it looks pretty bad for that religion, so perhaps that's a reason that religious leaders are so happy to close their doors. Again though, if they had total faith in their God, why would they have anything to fear?
Sorry for the ramble or if I've stepped on any more toes, I just thought I'd better give a slightly more detailed explanation of what I was talking about. Would love to hear other people's perspectives on this. 🙂
Felix
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
Hi Felix
Thank you for your thought provoking post. You raise some really interesting issues.
I am not a religious expert, haven't been in a church in years, but I do consider myself to be a person of faith. Due to a variety of reasons (primarily sexual abuse of children) I do not choose to participate in organised religion. I have my own relationship with God, guided by my principles, values and faith.
Disclosures done, I'd like to encourage you to consider that the move by various faith leaders to limit opportunites for public worship is both warranted and consistent.
No responsible faith leader would encourage members to smoke tobacco believing God will protect them from lung cancer. No faith would encourage members to limit exercise and over eat believing God will protect them from heart disease or diabetes.
The evidence is simply overwhelming that these behaviours are dangerous to human health. So, I'm not surprised that faith leaders are doing what they can to protect people from this virus.
I don't think that any religion promises that God will protect them from all suffering, hardship, illness and even death. Religion is not a magic shield. It is a set of beliefs that provide reason, comfort and meaning to millions of people world wide.
Elizabeth may know more about this than me, as I said I am no expert. (Nice to see you again, Elizabeth).
Kind thoughts to you
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
- Mark as New
- Follow Post
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Post
Hi Elizabeth
Thanks for letting me know. I will join in tomorrow's effort. Stay well.
Kind thoughts to you
- « Previous
-
- 1
- 2
- Next »
- Anxiety
- BB Social Zone
- Depression
- Grief and loss
- Multicultural experiences
- PTSD and trauma
- Relationship and family issues
- Sexuality and gender identity
- Staying well
- Suicidal thoughts and self-harm
- Supporting family and friends
- Treatments, health professionals, therapies
- Welcome and orientation
- Young people