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Today I find myself thinking, probably over thinking.....well I am not good at small talk. Anyone got any thoughts on small talk? I know it can be helpful in a way but seems meaningless in other ways.
OK bye now
Shelley xxx
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Thank you for replying Carol, I know you are living with pain and such, and for you to answer, it means a lot to me.
I am understanding what you are saying and it explains a lot as to why I don't feel like anyone really knows me. Most of my life, I have listened and listen to others tell me about there life. Pretty much most of the conversations would be one sided. The idea of telling people about myself does not come naturally to me. So maybe it is like you say, it just doesn't work.
And when someone does happen to ask me a question about me etc, I feel awkward. I don't get past the uncomfortable stage at all. My son is probably the only person that I feel totally comfortable with. However it is getting easier with my sister which I am really grateful for.
Love
Shell xx
PS please know I read you thread, but I don't have anything to say or add. But I do care about you. 🌸🌸🌸
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I just googled this "I hate small talk" this is what I found that I can relate too.
- Just the other day, you avoided making eye contact with your chatty neighbor when you saw her unexpectedly at the grocery store.
- In reality, most introverts are drained by small talk because it feels fake and meaningless
- Our distaste for small talk might cause some people to think we are socially inept or snobby. They imagine us turning our noses up at something that goes to the core of our culture. They assume that we don’t like chit-chat because we don’t like people. In reality, the opposite is true.
It is one of those social pleasantries that is inherently unpleasant.
- More than anything, we hope that just beyond the barrier of superficial banter we will find true connection.
These are my thoughts below:
I am not sure about all this, but if a person struggling with depression, anxiety and other mental/ emotional issues also finds it a challenge to even engage in small talk, how will they ever find a human connection to another human soul. They may be always hanging around the superficial stage. Which I find awkward. And because of this awkwardness ( which I hate feeling) I will choose to keep away from others.
Maybe that is why so many people who have these issues feel so alone, lonely, worthless and disconnected. Maybe this is one of reasons we have depression, because us humans have a deep need within to connect. And when that need is not meet, we start to feel sad or whatever.
Anyway these are just my thoughts in my head at the moment.
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Hey Shell,
That sounds right to me. I think you have explained that perfectly.
The hard part is how to work with psychologists or in self change to control the anxiety/depression enough to make those connections.
Another thought, if a person's self-esteem is low they may not want to share details about themself regardless of depression or anxiety. Working on one's self worth may help move past small talk.
What about talking about interests, do you find those hard to talk about? This is still small talk but has substance. For example; I like the mindfulness colouring in books that they have out now. Do you like them? Have you tried colouring in any yet? I know some people who are framing groups of the ones they colour in and hanging them as art in their house.
Thanks for looking in on my thread. I know you care, as do I for you. I think you and I have moved beyond small talk without needing the words. Though I would like to get to know you better, when you're ready xx
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Hello Shelley
I have been thinking about your dilemma with small talk. First I want to thank you for bringing up this topic and staying with it to get answers that match your personality. I know I have been challenged into examining why I say and do certain things.
I thought back to when you first posted on BB. I remember those posts. Very short and revealing little about you. Mostly, if I remember correctly, you were offering support to other people. If I am correct you joined BB about October/November last year.
Over time you gradually told us a little about yourself and your daily happenings. You are clearly at home in the cafe offering all sorts of goodies to eat and drink, with suggestions about furnishings and talking to the folk who drop in. Looking in from the sidelines it seems to me you have walked the small talk path very successfully. Many of your posts are short but they reveal a greater confidence in your interactions with others. And I think you are more trusting.
You returned to the Small Talk thread because you wanted to learn more about this. At least, that's how it seems to me. Your increased confidence has helped in this. You offer comfort and support to others and sometimes relate bits of your life to others difficulties.
This is exactly how small talk works. I know it's a bit different in face to face conversations, but the principle is the same. I think several others have made this point about small talk leading to more connectedness. On BB you call the shots by talking when it suits you, choosing who to respond to and what to say. It is more tricky face to face.
Your research above talks about feeling fake by asking someone how they feel today. When I get to the checkout in Woolworths the checkout person invariably asks me if I have had a good day so far. We both know he/she is not really interested unless I respond with a very out-of-the-box answer. It is Woolworths policy for checkout chicks to greet customers pleasantly and make them feel comfortable while parting with their cash. But it does make customers return because they know, even if it is subconsciously, they will be treated in a pleasant manner.
I remember you once commented that you would prefer to jump straight into a proper conversation. Trouble is, most folk would not know how to respond to you, and how would you know what topic to choose? Have a look at your posts over time and see how your conversation has changed.
Mary
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Hey Shelleybelly 🙂
I have been sitting here reading your responses to your topic. I really have no advice for you. I have mentioned that you have been there for me many times which you know I love you for.
This is not small talk from me as I care a great deal about you. I mentioned a few days ago that you could be living in Broome WA and no one would care. I probably give too much away everyday on the forums.....and in January I was petrified of being of saying anything on the forums...yes I was...very much so.
You dont have to post anything at all. The people on BB care a great deal about you Shelleybelly and are so very proud of you. When I write to you (sorry..write...old fashioned) I feel you 'lock up'...and thats fine too! Everytime I post to you its from my heart....never 'small talk'.
I was dreadfully shy all the way through school....but I understand now that a conversation is a 2 way street. I do get where you are coming from though. Whenever you are up to it and you have even a 'tiny' issue just ask..
I have never used small talk with you Shelleybelly.
Here for you always
Mr Woof!
Your huge heart has and always will be a gift to me and many others.
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Hi Everyone 🙂
This is my third attempt at replying back. My words are not coming out easy, as I don't think I comprehend everything properly. I am very mixed and jumbled up in my thoughts about this whole small talk issue. I have been thinking and thinking about it for hours and hours. But I wanted to give you a reply because you all matter to me and I am thankful for you.
I just wanted to say thank you.
Hugs for you all because that is how I show I care.
Shell xx
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Hey Shelley
Love your new picture. Thank you for replying and thank you for your graciousness. I wish I had the words to explain what I meant and I am certain everyone else who has replied wishes the same. I will not offer any more suggestions because I don't want to worry you further.
Mary
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Lovely Shell,
Your small talk on Emmy's thread is 100% perfect!!!!!
🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉
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Hi there Carol, Are those little fire crackers that you popped on there? I thank you Carol, for trying to encourage me, and you even gave me 100%.
But I am thinking that my definition of small talk is wrong. Because I thought small talk was something that had no meaning, no depth to it. And sometimes hard to answer the questions, people ask you. For dear Emmy it was easier, because I didn't need to ask how she was, because she already had mentioned that. And I already know a bit about her. Not sure if that makes any sense. Sorry.
Love
Shell xx
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Hi Shell,
You have made me think 🙂
I guess I see two types, 1) the superficial small talk in an environment like a shop or supermarket where people ask you things but only expect a superficial response. 2) small talk when getting to know someone, the beginning of friendships and those deeper connections.
An example is the small talk on Music_Freak's new thread where again, you're aceing it! What you are doing there is exactly what you would do in real life situations to begin a friendship. Each time the person answers, e.g. details about the cat, and the other responds, you are beggining to form a connection. In real life you would do the same then next time you met you can start with a follow up, for example, a question about the cat.
Yes firecrackers and balloons! 🙂
I hope that makes sense.
Love Carol xx
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