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Fit for duty assessment advice

Mark213
Community Member
Back in October I went on stress leave due to work matters I have already addressed. I returned in November on a return to work plan - not workers comp related I wanted to deal with this internally. I was on medication to assist with my low mood and feeling anxious. I had a mmreactioni ld reaction, reported it immediately and got off the medication with confirmation from my Doctor. My work sent me to a corperate medical doctor who stated that I to be supervised with staff and I cannot drive machinery, however he stated I am fit to work and need bipolar excluded by a Pyschiatrist. So, I went to a fitness for duty assessment with a Pyschiatrist and was determined that I have no mental illness, I'm fit to return to full duties and I was suffering from low mood which resolved on its own, no further treatment required. My doctor agreed I can return to work. I have sent my paperwork to my HR and the last meeting I had is they are still investigating for an outcome due to the conflicting reports with the Pyschiatrist and medical consultant.

Has anyone been through something similar? Remember, this is not a workers comp claim. I'm starting to feel depressed because I feel like they want to terminate me.
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Summer Rose
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Mark

Please don’t worry about the multiple posts. I understand anxiety and I am here to support you. I must stress, however, I am not a lawyer—just a business owner.

You’re in a complicated situation but please know these kinds of issues in the workplace are surprisingly common. I know you’re worried about your job but your employer would be taking a real risk to dismiss you.

If I was your employer, I would not terminate your employment. This is because I think you would have a very good case for unfair dismissal and/ or adverse action. You can lodge two complaints.

Your employer is vulnerable on a few fronts. You were the victim of workplace violence and there was no proper investigation or support provided to you. You were then bullied by your manager and again no appropriate response. In addition, you were mislead about the real purpose behind the medical appointment.

On top of all this, you have become unwell because of this and suffered significant financial loss. (They will argue, however, it was your choice not to apply for WorkCover. You need to think about why you wanted to keep it internal to explain this.)

Are you sure you want to work for this employer?

If they take a risk and dismiss you, and you want your job, don’t get angry or say too much. I suggest this because one of the remedies at Fair Work, along with compensation, is to make your employer reinstate you.

You have 21 days from the date of termination to make a Fair Work claim or claims. Because it’s really complicated please get a lawyer to help you right from the start.

In the meantime, send an email explaining that you expect an outcome at the next meeting, as the excessive delay is unreasonable and causing unnecessary financial hardship and stress. Take a support person to the meeting, it always helps to have a witness.

Kind thoughts to you

Thank you for this. I feel like because I brought all of this to their attention they are trying to twist it as though it is me. If I didn't say anything at the begining, everything would have traded as normal and I thought it was best for me to make a complaint. When I had the meeting about my complaint it was as though they were trying to make out that I was blowing it out of proportion. However, they admitted to better screening the casuals in future. I didn't go through work cover because I like my job and all I wanted to do was resolve it and move on.

Can I ask that if they do find me fit to work, will they have to back pay me and if they do terminate me would they have to pay me the termination notice.

Also the reason why they have labour hire casuals is to replace a guy I worked with who was fulltime and really injured his back a year ago in the warehouse with me. He has been on work cover since.

Its hard because I feel hopeless and my partner is paying for everything at the moment so i really just want to know the outcome so I can move on.

Summer Rose
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Mark

I want you to know that you did nothing wrong raising a concern about safety.

Safety is everyone’s responsibility and nobody knows the risks and issues better than the people who do the job. Your actions may very well have reduced the potential for harm and injury in the workplace.

If they do terminate your employment it’s my understanding they must pay out the notice period. But, if this happens, I would head straight to Fair Work.

It only costs about $80 to lodge a complaint and there are plenty of “no win, no fee” lawyers to choose from. The financial compensation can be significant, up to six months pay and it’s fast. You will have an outcome in 2 to 3 months max.

Most employers will look to settle before it gets to court. I obviously don’t have all the facts or your employer’s side of the story but I would encourage you to try.

But, like I said, I would be surprised if this happens. They now have two reports that deem you fit for work and they’re not squeaky clean in all this so there is risk for them.

They probably feel lucky to have dodged a WC claim. The reason they’ve put you in for all the leave etc, is they can’t have you working if there’s any question about fitness—just in case something happened. If there was a further injury or set back and you changed your mind and went to WC they would then have a significant issue.

I don’t believe they have any obligation to offer back pay.

There is, however, no time limit for lodging a WC claim. Trouble is you’ve now recovered. I still think I would call your WC authority and ask if there’s anything they could do to help.

Please know that I am sharing my experience in good faith but I am not an “expert” or lawyer. You can call Fair Work and WC on Monday and get some expert advice.

I’d really be curious to know how you go but no pressure. Post any time.

Kind thoughts to you

Hi again

Just been thinking about the financial side of all this. Has your employer picked up all of your medical costs?

They can do this for you without you lodging a WC claim up to a certain limit. In Vic it’s just under $1,000.

King thoughts to you

Hi summer rose,

I 100% understand you are offering advice from an employers point of view and it is good to have someone who is an employer give scenarios of what could be happening, I appreciate this. I was told by fw that there isn't much I can do until I find out what the outcome is. My issue is since I have handed in my clearance it will be nearly 3 weeks next week and the way it was worded in HRs response is like they won't even have an outcome for our meeting next week. It was called a "catch up". It was mentioned to me by fw that if they do find me fit that they may have to back pay me from the date I was cleared. Fw offer limited advice.
They have not covered any medical costs besides sending me to their doctor. I think at this stage i will send them my recent medical certificate along with a note that i expect an outcome. Im just trying to think of ways to word it without sounding overly demanding. I also want to mention that my DR advised that their doctors report is incomplete because he never touched base with my Doctor. Anxiety can sometimes make you over explain so I'm not sure if I should say it or not.

I also wanted to mention if I am terminated I will go to fw. My partner has all the evidence ready for me. Once this is done I will also make a complaint about the lady in HR because of the way she made me sign a new contract implying that this job might not be for me if i dont sign, those were her words.

Last question and I'll update you with what happens on Wednesday:)

If I have been cleared to work since Feb 5th and they are taking longer to investigate conflicting reports, should they be paying me since Feb 5th now the hold up is on their end? Or does it still count as sick leave with out pay?

Summer Rose
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Mark

Quick questions before I respond properly. Did you make an application (eg fill out a form) to go on leave without pay? Did you provide an end date for the conclusion of the leave without pay period? If there’s no official paperwork how did you get on leave without pay?

Kind thoughts to you

No I didn't fill in any paperwork. They placed me on sick leave until I addressed their doctors report. I asked what happens when my sick leave runs out and they said I can use my annual leave and once that is exhausted it will be SLWOP. I had no choice and confirmed via email in Dec 14th because my Doctor was on leave returning January 18th and the next pysch appointment available was Jan 18th. Now they are investigating the conflict in medical reports since Feb 5th however I am fit to return. Their doctors report is incomplete because they never provided questions when my Doctor refused to speak over the phone. I was also not told their doctor will be contacting mine and that they couldn't get in contact. So he signed off the report saying he couldn't get speak to my Doctor over the phone and could result in implications with my employment.