Do you ever feel worthless?

Aggy
Community Member

I have always felt that I was a good person with decent morals and values.

Even after many years of evidence showing I am useless and dysfunctional, Even my mum told me my life is a complete waste. I have always pushed on believing they were all wrong.

You know what? It's taken me this long to figure out all those people couldn't be wrong. I am worthless.

They were right and now I know I want to just keep out of everyones way. If my agoraphobia and I just stay home, I cannot be hurt in anyway any more. I won't upset anybody. I am safe here and I like it like that.

I have my first Psychiatrist appointment in two days.  I am feeling like not going. He's wasting his time on me.

I'm better off to stay here and rot. Society can do just fine without me. 

He should try and help someone worth helping, not some one like me that's worthless.

Has anyone felt like this before?

-Aggy.

 

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CMF
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

You are not gutless and worthless. you said so yourself - not ready to quit.

 Wanting to dig a hole and hide I think is your bodys way of telling you to rest. we need rest to recover.  I would love to spend a week in bed, and just sleep, or just lie there until I feel ready to move forward. only you know when you are ready.

Aggy
Community Member

Hi CMF.

Thanks for your message.

It's pretty hard to not feel worthless when you have been treated by people the way I have. It's just taken me this long to realise that it is me not them that is the cause of the problem. I'm just not worth the effort and it's been proven many times.

Sorry to seem so negative, but it's good to finally work out where I fit into society after years of trying. No where.

It's ok, I will deal with that.

Thanks again for your post and I hope all is well for you.

-Aggy.

 

Asche
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

I don't know if the storm makes you stronger, but it does give you a certain unique perspective, one that you may come to appreciate having. I certainly can't say that enduring the storm has made me stronger (if anything it's turned me into more of a pushover, but that's fine- the old me was a little insufferable, in retrospect), but it did force me to mature a little, and at the end of the day, I can't say that I particularly regret having to endure it. Not that any of us really have a choice in the matter, but...ultimately I'd consider myself compensated ("well compensated" is probably overstating it). I can't say I would've chosen this path for myself had I been given the choice though.

What it can do, is make you harder. But being "harder" doesn't mean stronger. Sure, hiding away and closing yourself off might make you more resilient and you may feel as if you hurt less, for a time. That might even be true. But hard things are also brittle, and the question you have to ask is: How long, how much more can I take before I snap?

That's what I learned, coming out of the storm. Closing myself off and burying who I was under a veneer of constant deception and hissing at everything that dared come close only made me "hard". I didn't become stronger. I might've even been weaker. Sure, it may hurt less at the beginning, but as you're undoubtedly aware, the storm always finds a hole in your defense. The floodwaters only trickle a little at first, but the gap is widening, always widening, and soon enough, you find yourself drowning all over again. Except this time it's even harder to get out because you've walled yourself off from everyone who could help.

As for not having a place in society; I disagree. I think of society as a machine. Dumb and unthinking, it goes about its motions, and by and by large, it keeps the majority of people content, if not happy. But it's not perfect, so some inevitably fall through the cracks, awkward and out of place.

But that's fine. Because we can make our own place. While we may be dim and dour souls individually, together, we shine. We can be beacons for others. We can catch the fall-ers. That is our place. And maybe, just maybe, if we can shine brightly enough, maybe no one will ever fall out of place again.

Isn't that what you're doing here, now? I've spotted a few of your posts here and there, and you're supporting others, even while enduring your own storm. That's worth something. You're worth something.

geoff
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Champion Alumni

dear Asche, there is so much that you say I totally agree with.

When we come out from depression our prospective on life changes because all the insignificant crap/rubbish that we once had to put up with we either ignore or just palm off, and when 'we come out of the storm you won't be the same person who walked in'.

So do we become stronger or more knowledgeable, both really, stronger mentally, and indeed have learnt a great deal, but unfortunately we have to go through depression to be able to do this. Geoff.

HelenM
Community Member

Hi Aggy

I've just been reading through your thread and I'm sorry you're going through such a tough time. 

In one post you said that you're too soft and you can't hurt people - I might have the words wrong but I think that's the gist. The thing is that's who you are and it seems to me that most of us with mental health problems are gentle people. We tend to empathise more easily and don't want to cause pain. I must admit that often I wish I could trade in my gentle nature for a hard uncaring one. That way I might be free from all the pain. The reason I don't is cos I can't. As my GP tells me, this is who I am. Your nature is part of you. To me you sound like a strong person and I admire you for coming on here to help yourself. Also I'm jealous because you play guitar. All I can manage is the school recorder.

Take care,

Helen

Aggy
Community Member

Hi Asche.

I'm just so confused and worried about stuff I don't really know what sort of person I will be if I make it through this to be honest. Agoraphobia keeps me inside my 'safe place'. I feel like an injured animal, hiding away safely waiting for my wounds to heal.

I suppose I have a small place in society by going to work each day for a little while is contributing something.  

I am so confused and trying to deal with this is starting to take its toll on me physically now too. I need to pay more attention to those of you that have done this and learn how to survive instead of sitting here feeling sorry for myself.

When you see me posting on here encouraging others it helps me too.

Thanks for your message I like reading what you have to say.

Thanks also to Geoff for posting too.

-Aggy. 

 

Aggy
Community Member

Hi Helen.

I have tried so hard to do the right thing by people and its gotten me nowhere. I cant see myself being able to change that so instead of being hurt or judged by others anymore I am now keeping them and the world away from me.

Its not just for me, I am doing it to stop everyone that comes near me from being disappointed as well. My whole life of trying to do the right thing so far has been for nought. People only remember the bad things, never the good stuff.

I come here to try and understand what is happening to me and to see there are others just like me. It's great here and the only place I am able to get it out. Trying to do this completely on my own is unrealistic.

I may be able to play a guitar but cannot play a recorder so I'm jealous of you!

Thanks for your message and I really hope you are doing well.

-Aggy.

Snoman
Blue Voices Member
Blue Voices Member

Hi Aggy,

Several years ago I worked in a company who's ethics did not align with mine.  This caused me much stress and I suspect helped my black dog resurface.  The problem was me not being true to myself.

Your morals and ethics make you want to help others.  You care and you put other people's needs ahead of yours.  That is who you are.  It makes you you.

Right now you feel all the people around you hurt you.  No one appreciates your values.  But you do.  You won't like yourself if you don't live to your values.

Looking back at my early work situation, I struggled because I did not act according to my values.  I should have made better choices.  I didn't see them at the time.  I thought my inability to cope was a failing in me.  With lessons learned through hindsight, I can see better options.  I could have left the company, or even more true to my values, I could have stood up to management and demanded better of them.

Last night I subjected my kids to watching the movie Groundhog Day.  Partly to give us something to talk about, and partly to remind myself.  It is much like Haruki Murakami's message and my earlier work situation.

Be true to yourself.  It's too hard otherwise.

What other people do with that is up to them.

Snoman

P.S. Given your comments several posts earlier, I'm guessing you can see where my avatar pic comes from. 🙂

Aggy
Community Member

Hiya Snoman.

I also worked for a company that let me bend over backwards to keep their production going. I would get called in the middle of the night and go in to get their machines running again all with no 'thanks' or 'well done mate'. After doing it for ten years I was let go for a small mistake that I made. I left quietly, blaming myself.

I know I try to hard but can't stop doing it. It seems my brain has come up with its own solution to the problem now, agoraphobia, which I don't mind. It's protecting me. Its just the extreme anxiety that comes with it that is crushing me.

There's gotta be a way through this but I just cant see it yet.

And yes, I can relate very well to your avatar.

Good to hear from you and thanks for your message. I hope all is well for you.

-Aggy.

 

white knight
Community Champion
Community Champion

Hi Aggy,

I'm not much of a reader. So I often speed read through threads. If I read all of the posts I'd lose focus.

So I've read the last few posts only and my heart reaches out to you.

When it comes to trusting other people- I'm so in line with what you feel. People - I think 80% are destructive, perhaps unintentional, perhaps their answers/comments are destructive but its normal communication for them? Whatever the situation its you that is the sufferer. I'm very very sensitive and have this problem with people also but I suggest it isnt near as severe in terms of stopping me from functioning normally- shopping and the like.

It's effect on my depression is severe however. In my small cocktail of illnesses- bipolar 2, dysthymia, anxiety (which has almost subsided) and depression, people particularly in a club context are my worse enemy. Common occurances like gossip from some to put down others infuriates me, committees that dont uphold rules that protect bullied members, all sorts of more minor events like penny pinching or comments about my vintage car that are negative when its the effort and passion that should be admired.  And on and on it goes. I dissect everything!

Someone once commented to me- "your problem is you cant allow things to drift like water on a ducks back". Of course I worried about that comment for weeks and 10 years alter still recall it and that persons demeanor!

So this year, my 58th on this planet, I made changes. I put walls up. I accepted that I could no longer aspire to be like others- to blend in. I reduced my FB from 180 to 45, I stopped contacting friends or neighbours that were not a positive influence, I joined this forum that is a positive world for me and one that educates me about mental illnesses, I've drifted from my motoring club to attend a run once a year- drift in and drift out that day is the plan. I bump into aquaintances in town and limit my conversation to 1-2 minutes only enough not to be seen as rude for that would worry me later. In short- for the first time in my life I am thinking of myself as number one

We are unique- you are unique. You deserve the right to be yourself and ALLOW yourself to be who you are. You can strive to make improvements without too many expectations. Take the wheelie bin out for collection. If you only make it to the letterbox, leave it there until later in the day when you find the freedom of mind to take it to the roadside.

Baby steps. Yours no one elses. Normality does not apply.