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    <title>topic Recent bipolar diagnosis and the struggle with social stigma. in Young people</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, welcome,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm bipolar2, you've described the symptoms perfectly. The illness can be brought about in various ways but living with it, accepting it and explaining yourself all the while appearing normal, is your challenge. I hope I can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Firstly, we have an ongoing thread here called "&lt;STRONG&gt;my bipolar life&lt;/STRONG&gt;" that you can chat to other sufferers. Put it in the search bar. The thread exists because of the isolation of which you mention.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Nobody will understand you that doesnt have the disorder nor the empathy level to do so. If they at least try then they are special people.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Google&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic they just wont understand- why?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The extreme option is hermitising. I've mentioned in the next thread this less appealing option&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic want to be a hermit?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Overtime you'll get more and more annoyed with peoples lack of tolerance. Better to take the view that you have a right to not have to explain or give excuses. Seek employment non customer service, non food, non assembly line, non law enforcement and non shift work. Best is 2 or 3 part time jobs working alone-the ideal. That gives you a regular change of environment and less hours with the same people.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival part 2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival (work)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My cycles slowed and my swing extent  lowered when mood stabilisers were prescribed. With a small amount of AD I eventually found the dosages just right. In my ex you'll try to get it perfect in vain, so get it as stable as you can.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have triggers that are annoying like a stretched rubber band. Pow! My wife nor I see its coming. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;beyondblue topic triggers that down you, triggers that life you&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic triggers recovery&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Re: &lt;EM&gt;"Soon enough, the depression disappears and a new lifechanging goal or snap decision comes along and sweeps me up"&lt;/EM&gt; I have found that mood stabilisers slow that down as does aging&lt;EM&gt;. &lt;/EM&gt;But Ive also learned to embrace my spontaneity. Google: &lt;STRONG&gt;famous people with depression /bipolar/mental&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;illness&lt;/STRONG&gt; and you'll be surprised.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sleep. Get into a pattern. Very important. I  have sleep apnea and a cpap machine ensures enough oxygen for good sleep.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Toxic people. Mentioned in the fortress thread. Remove them from your life. A pet helps and distractions when depressed even jigsaws, crossworfs, suduku.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Self esteem takes a battering. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyondblue topic low self esteem&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyondblue topic worry worry worry&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Well done in joining us. Post anytime here or in those threads.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TonyWK &lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:46:56 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-08-09T09:46:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Recent bipolar diagnosis and the struggle with social stigma.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/recent-bipolar-diagnosis-and-the-struggle-with-social-stigma/m-p/501208#M21041</link>
      <description>I'm 23 and have been coping with a bipolar II diagnosis for 9 months.
&lt;BR /&gt;At first, I thought bipolar was only my past extremes of blurry party binges, cheating strings, snap lifechanging decisions and periods of depression, complete social withdrawing and suicide attempts.
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;Recently, I have noticed how much I hide behind a fascade throughout my more subtle, regular cycles, trying to channel it into work and unreasonable lifestyle goals. When I'm hypomanic, I work multiple jobs on top of uni. I set unreasonable career goals and hide behind a fascade of being hardworking, high achieving all the while dealing with racing thoughts, uncontrollable spending, erratic behavior and an increasingly busy schedule.
&lt;BR /&gt;Trying to hide my internal struggle eventually leads me to a place of anger, anxiety, frustration, uncontrollable crying, overconfidence and egocentrism. It's logical that denying my internal struggle, hiding my symptoms from the world makes me explode and spiral into depression.
&lt;BR /&gt;When I'm depressed, all my hard work is suddenly left unfinished, I disappear from social media, avoid family and friends, cancel on work, stop cooking and eating, lose all motivation and interest in doing anything. Soon enough, the depression disappears and a new lifechanging goal or snap decision comes along and sweeps me up. Nobody knows I was depressed for weeks because I have pushed everyone away, broken friendships and hidden away before making my grand, confident entrance into my work and a new social life.
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;I am going to therapy which has been helpful in tracking my moods, recognising the signs and understanding strategies to counteract the cycles, but in reality it's hard when I don't want to explain to people why I'm taking a step back when I look like I'm doing well, or am heading home early from a party when I don't look tired or sick. Im afraid of the social stigma associated with the disorder so continue to make excuses that don't add up when people ask why.
&lt;BR /&gt;Despite my therapist reassuring me this is a common disorder, I can't help but feel isolated. 
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;How has everyone learnt to deal with their illness head on, breaking the established habits which hide the illness, but perpetuate their cycles? 
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;How have you learnt to apply your therapists advice, and not care about the social stigma associated with taking care of yourself?
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;Does anyone else feel isolated by their illness itself and by practising self care strategies?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 05:51:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/recent-bipolar-diagnosis-and-the-struggle-with-social-stigma/m-p/501208#M21041</guid>
      <dc:creator>Yelmel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-08-09T05:51:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Recent bipolar diagnosis and the struggle with social stigma.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/recent-bipolar-diagnosis-and-the-struggle-with-social-stigma/m-p/501209#M21042</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, welcome,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm bipolar2, you've described the symptoms perfectly. The illness can be brought about in various ways but living with it, accepting it and explaining yourself all the while appearing normal, is your challenge. I hope I can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Firstly, we have an ongoing thread here called "&lt;STRONG&gt;my bipolar life&lt;/STRONG&gt;" that you can chat to other sufferers. Put it in the search bar. The thread exists because of the isolation of which you mention.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Nobody will understand you that doesnt have the disorder nor the empathy level to do so. If they at least try then they are special people.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Google&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic they just wont understand- why?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The extreme option is hermitising. I've mentioned in the next thread this less appealing option&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic want to be a hermit?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Overtime you'll get more and more annoyed with peoples lack of tolerance. Better to take the view that you have a right to not have to explain or give excuses. Seek employment non customer service, non food, non assembly line, non law enforcement and non shift work. Best is 2 or 3 part time jobs working alone-the ideal. That gives you a regular change of environment and less hours with the same people.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival part 2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic fortress of survival (work)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My cycles slowed and my swing extent  lowered when mood stabilisers were prescribed. With a small amount of AD I eventually found the dosages just right. In my ex you'll try to get it perfect in vain, so get it as stable as you can.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have triggers that are annoying like a stretched rubber band. Pow! My wife nor I see its coming. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;beyondblue topic triggers that down you, triggers that life you&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Beyondblue topic triggers recovery&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Re: &lt;EM&gt;"Soon enough, the depression disappears and a new lifechanging goal or snap decision comes along and sweeps me up"&lt;/EM&gt; I have found that mood stabilisers slow that down as does aging&lt;EM&gt;. &lt;/EM&gt;But Ive also learned to embrace my spontaneity. Google: &lt;STRONG&gt;famous people with depression /bipolar/mental&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;illness&lt;/STRONG&gt; and you'll be surprised.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sleep. Get into a pattern. Very important. I  have sleep apnea and a cpap machine ensures enough oxygen for good sleep.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Toxic people. Mentioned in the fortress thread. Remove them from your life. A pet helps and distractions when depressed even jigsaws, crossworfs, suduku.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Self esteem takes a battering. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyondblue topic low self esteem&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyondblue topic worry worry worry&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Well done in joining us. Post anytime here or in those threads.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TonyWK &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:46:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/recent-bipolar-diagnosis-and-the-struggle-with-social-stigma/m-p/501209#M21042</guid>
      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-08-09T09:46:56Z</dc:date>
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