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    <title>topic Social phobia - do I really need a diagnosis to get better? :/ in Young people</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warning; migraine induced rant.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've never spoken about my feelings with anyone before, so this is a little bit hard for me. I hope it all makes sense.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A friend shared a SAD link on Facebook last week&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt; and almost everything in the article related to me. I did a bit of research and I'm pretty sure I've had SAD my whole life. Every article I've read has suggested getting a diagnosis. I want to listen to this advice, but I've spent three days worrying about &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;how&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt; and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;why &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;to get a diagnosis and now I've given myself a migraine over it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm an unemployed uni student so I can't afford to go to a psychologist. I live in a small town, too, so I'd be worried someone would see my car parked there. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't know if a GP is the right person to go to, either. I keep worrying that they'll tell me I don't have SAD and to just live with it, or that I need to see a psychologist for a diagnosis, or I won't even be able to speak to the doctor once I get in there; that has happened before. The website for the GP doesn't say which docs are bulk billing and which aren't, so I'll have to call to make an appointment. I tried to call today, but couldn't make myself do it. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm not entirely sure I have SAD. I avoid situations where I'll be invited to social events (if that makes sense), but if I'm invited to an event I almost always go with only a little anxiety beforehand - although I always regret it as soon as I'm there and lose sleep over it for at least a week afterwards. I have never been able to have a normal conversation with anyone except my mum and one particular friend (my only friend). I can get really anxious about things I do all the time, like going to the shops or gym, but I can make myself go 98% of the time. I can answer the phone, but that's because the fear of answering isn't as great as the fear of calling them back. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;I know a lot of people with SAD have the same dilemma and I'm not alone (although it feels like I am). But do I really need a diagnosis to start 'getting better'? Now that I'm (pretty) sure I have it, can't I just deal with it and fix it alone? I'm tired of living like this, but just can't make myself get help.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:41:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Just_some_weird_chick</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-04-23T08:41:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Social phobia - do I really need a diagnosis to get better? :/</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/social-phobia-do-i-really-need-a-diagnosis-to-get-better/m-p/373340#M16349</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warning; migraine induced rant.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've never spoken about my feelings with anyone before, so this is a little bit hard for me. I hope it all makes sense.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A friend shared a SAD link on Facebook last week&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt; and almost everything in the article related to me. I did a bit of research and I'm pretty sure I've had SAD my whole life. Every article I've read has suggested getting a diagnosis. I want to listen to this advice, but I've spent three days worrying about &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;how&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt; and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;why &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;to get a diagnosis and now I've given myself a migraine over it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm an unemployed uni student so I can't afford to go to a psychologist. I live in a small town, too, so I'd be worried someone would see my car parked there. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't know if a GP is the right person to go to, either. I keep worrying that they'll tell me I don't have SAD and to just live with it, or that I need to see a psychologist for a diagnosis, or I won't even be able to speak to the doctor once I get in there; that has happened before. The website for the GP doesn't say which docs are bulk billing and which aren't, so I'll have to call to make an appointment. I tried to call today, but couldn't make myself do it. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm not entirely sure I have SAD. I avoid situations where I'll be invited to social events (if that makes sense), but if I'm invited to an event I almost always go with only a little anxiety beforehand - although I always regret it as soon as I'm there and lose sleep over it for at least a week afterwards. I have never been able to have a normal conversation with anyone except my mum and one particular friend (my only friend). I can get really anxious about things I do all the time, like going to the shops or gym, but I can make myself go 98% of the time. I can answer the phone, but that's because the fear of answering isn't as great as the fear of calling them back. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;I know a lot of people with SAD have the same dilemma and I'm not alone (although it feels like I am). But do I really need a diagnosis to start 'getting better'? Now that I'm (pretty) sure I have it, can't I just deal with it and fix it alone? I'm tired of living like this, but just can't make myself get help.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:41:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/social-phobia-do-i-really-need-a-diagnosis-to-get-better/m-p/373340#M16349</guid>
      <dc:creator>Just_some_weird_chick</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-23T08:41:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Social phobia - do I really need a diagnosis to get better? :/</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/social-phobia-do-i-really-need-a-diagnosis-to-get-better/m-p/373341#M16350</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Oh wow, I ask myself the same question. Does it help to have a label, or does that just make me focus on symptoms more? Does it even matter which diagnosis? Etc etc.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the end, I've decided that it's helpful to have a diagnosis as that gives you the best chance of getting the most appropriate treatment approach....but the label never describes the whole person.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think it's hard to just treat ourselves, because we need someone outside ourselves to help us understand our thinking patterns.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But there is an good option for you - there is an online treatment programme set up by St Vincents hospital. It's cheap and all you need is a computer. There is a specific programme for social anxiety too. Just find thiswayup.org.au&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let me know what you think of it! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the meantime it would still be worthwhile to go to a local GP or psych. Some tips:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- park the car a couple of blocks away and walk in (if someone sees you walk in,well, lots of people get support)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- the GP can get you access to cheaper counselling (10 visits over a year), so it may be worth visiting the GP. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- it sounds like you are pretty clear you have SAD, and if the GP tells you to live with it, ignore them and move on&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- try calling the BeyondBlue helpline for tips, they may have some ideas (contact details on this website)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- remember most GPs have seen this all before&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry it took a while to get a response, I do hope you are still there : )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are tired of living like this, so it's definitely time for a change. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:08:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stormcloudz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-23T14:08:23Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Just_some_weird_chick,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A gentle welcome to the forums &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think, especially as you sound like a private person, that opening up here was very brave. It couldn’t have been easy for you...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You sound so on edge and nervous, which is clearly taking its toll on you emotionally and socially. That must be very exhausting...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My personal thoughts on diagnoses is it’s less about the “label” (so to speak) and more about the diagnosis acting as a &lt;EM&gt;guide&lt;/EM&gt; for creating a treatment plan for you.  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Finances are understandably a consideration...if you’re at uni, sometimes there are on-campus GPs and mental health professionals (counsellors, etc) that can give you free or bulk billed services. Perhaps that’s something you could look into...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;About GPs, I hear what you’re saying about your reservations and I get where you’re coming from. That being said, I still feel they are a good “gateway” to receiving mental health support.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; If you book an extended appointment with a GP, you can discuss the possibility of a mental health treatment plan, and getting a referral to more specialised help e.g. a psychologist, etc. Your mental health plan entitles you to a number of subsidised/Medicare rebatable visits to a psychologist, which will help reduce the financial burden of seeking help. It’s up to you but maybe it’s something you might like to think about...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you feel like talking some more or venting is good too, feel free to make good use of this thread. As I said, you’re most welcome here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind thoughts,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Pepper&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:01:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Peppermintbach</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-23T21:01:23Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Stormcloudz and Pepper for your responses. It was really helpful. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The online programs sound like they could be helpful, Stormcloudz. I will look into it. But at the same time, I'm not a fan of self-diagnosis, so I think I'll try to book a GP appt to maybe get a diagnosis before I start trying to fix the problem &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; Just need to get brave and book the appointment &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":neutral_face:"&gt;😐&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm not too worried about a label. When I read about SAD and tentatively decided that's what I have, I was quite relieved. I'd spent my whole life thinking this is just who I am. Now, there is a little bit of hope that I can be 'normal' (wish I could think of a better word to use). So I understand what you're saying about the label being a guide to getting better, Pepper. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My sister goes to a psych in the next town for her mental health issues. That could be an option for me too, I guess. I study online at an interstate uni because of my SAD (I'm way too afraid to move towns), so on campus options aren't available to me, unfortunately.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Feeling a bit better today. Your replies really helped. Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:33:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Just_some_weird_chick</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-23T23:33:32Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Just_S_W_Chick,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the community here. A diagnosis would be a good idea. I was told I have Borderline Personality a decade or so ago. It really helped me understand myself better and why I sometimes react the way I do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Through some education on this issue, I have been able to change how I think and act and get on much better with life...and other people. Ha. Ha.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As mentioned already here, it does not have to  be a label, it can be a tool and a way for better understanding and change.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Going to a different town for help might be beneficial if you are concerned others will see you. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I find that writing down how I am feeling helps me to sort out thoughts and emotions and helps me get to the bottom of issues a lot quicker. You could even write out information for the person you chose to go and see.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you have hobbies and interests that help to keep you busy and entertained? Distractions help at times.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope you find some answers, cheers for now from Dools&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:55:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Doolhof</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-24T04:55:00Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;So glad you are feeling a little better JSW Chick : )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Come back anytime and let us know how you go.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:36:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stormcloudz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-24T08:36:51Z</dc:date>
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