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    <title>topic Intesnse self loathing and depression. in Young people</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370613#M16255</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Jackson M&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;As Paul mentioned, you've done incredibly well in finding someone who knows how to help you through mental health issues. This is so important.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;There are so many &lt;I&gt;destructive &lt;/I&gt;mental programs up there in our head which dictate the terms in regard to how we live our life and we typically begin receiving such programing from a very young age. These destructive programs might sound a little familiar:&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Toughen up, otherwise you're weak. Especially do not cry in front of others.&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Don't talk about your problems, especially to strangers (such as therapists, folk on forums like this etc)&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;If we can't function effectively in this world then we are defective to some degree&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Friends are people in social circles&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Jackson, I'm going to take these 4 points and change them to reveal &lt;I&gt;constructive truth&lt;/I&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Emotions are a form of internal &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;e&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;nergy in &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;motion&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;. Yelling, crying and so on are forms of stress/energy release. If we keep this energy inside, the energy manifests in &lt;I&gt;other ways&lt;/I&gt; throughout our body. This helps explain why when people are seriously stressed they can become physically ill. Crying can be seen as an achievement not a weakness&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;We are communal creatures designed to share both our joy &lt;I&gt;and &lt;/I&gt;our sorrow. I believe we are meant to come together in support, in moving forward. Folk at BB recognise this truth wholeheartedly&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;If we cannot function effectively then 3 &lt;I&gt;individual &lt;/I&gt;facets should be explored. When we refer to our self as 'I' we should remember that we are not one single simple entity. Physical dis-ease, mental dis-ease and energetic dis-ease will present specific sets of symptoms. Any one of these 3 aspects of us (or even all of them at once) can express dis-ease in unique ways. The mental dis-ease part can relate to thought networks as well as chemical imbalances. There's a network up there in that thing in our skull for everything we have learned in life, from tying our shoelaces to feeling self-hatred. Some networks need attention. The chemistry thing...the levels of dopamine and serotonin in our brain will go toward determining how motivated and happy we are. Thoughts and chemistry &lt;I&gt;are &lt;/I&gt;interactive&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Each relationship we have in life is reflected in how &lt;I&gt;we relate&lt;/I&gt;. You relate to your therapist as someone who cares, someone who listens, someone who helps you come to know yourself and the world better. I believe these are the traits of someone we would regard as a friend. Your view is definitely not pathetic, it makes perfect sense&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Take care JM&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 18:35:21 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-11-01T18:35:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intesnse self loathing and depression.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370611#M16253</link>
      <description>My anxiety and self-hatred &lt;G class="gr_ gr_60 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="60" data-gr-id="60"&gt;has&lt;/G&gt; been getting progressively worse over the last few years, to where I unable to meet new people or walk outside without feeling incredibly scared for no reason. I have broken away from all my friends, TAFE and have begun started online schooling; having to redo the last school year to check boxes for the government. I hate my life and I know I was always meant to be more than this.  The only person I could consider a friend is my therapist which I already know is pathetic, after refusing to properly cry in front of her and then leaving that appointment to get a haircut and rushing home to throw-up after as a reaction to how bad I look, I already know there’s something seriously wrong with me but it’s even worst then I could imagine. I have had little to no motivation to work or live, I spend most of my time blasting music at 100% with headphones to stop my thoughts, I never thought I would join a service like Beyond Blue but I don’t know what to do anymore. I not even sure what this letter serves but to act as nothing more than a cry for help.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 09:38:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370611#M16253</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jackson_M</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-01T09:38:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intesnse self loathing and depression.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370612#M16254</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Jackson M&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Welcome and thank you for being a part of the forums. It takes a lot of courage to post and good on you for reaching out and posting with us &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I used to have the same awful feelings when I was at school and it can be an awful place to be in Jackson. You have a strong focus on your well being. There is nothing pathetic about you in any way!&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;It took me 12 years to cry in front of my therapist when I was in your situation....and yes...I felt awkward and embarrassed too. &lt;I&gt;It does take time to have a good cry with our therapist&lt;/I&gt;. You have done so well by engaging a therapist in the first place! Good1 &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I understand you where anxiety is concerned as I was a jerk and didnt have it treated as soon as I should have. You are no jerk as you have taken some great steps to care for your health&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;The headphones are a good distraction for the time being...no worries there. Can I ask you how frequent you see your doc/therapist?&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;I&gt;The forums are a safe and judgemental place for you to post JM&lt;/I&gt;. It would be great if you post back when its convenient for &lt;I&gt;you&lt;/I&gt; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;you are not alone&lt;/B&gt; and thank you for being a part of the forum family too!&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;my kind thoughts for you&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 10:27:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370612#M16254</guid>
      <dc:creator>blondguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-01T10:27:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intesnse self loathing and depression.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370613#M16255</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Jackson M&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;As Paul mentioned, you've done incredibly well in finding someone who knows how to help you through mental health issues. This is so important.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;There are so many &lt;I&gt;destructive &lt;/I&gt;mental programs up there in our head which dictate the terms in regard to how we live our life and we typically begin receiving such programing from a very young age. These destructive programs might sound a little familiar:&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Toughen up, otherwise you're weak. Especially do not cry in front of others.&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Don't talk about your problems, especially to strangers (such as therapists, folk on forums like this etc)&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;If we can't function effectively in this world then we are defective to some degree&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Friends are people in social circles&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Jackson, I'm going to take these 4 points and change them to reveal &lt;I&gt;constructive truth&lt;/I&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Emotions are a form of internal &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;e&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;nergy in &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;motion&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;. Yelling, crying and so on are forms of stress/energy release. If we keep this energy inside, the energy manifests in &lt;I&gt;other ways&lt;/I&gt; throughout our body. This helps explain why when people are seriously stressed they can become physically ill. Crying can be seen as an achievement not a weakness&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;We are communal creatures designed to share both our joy &lt;I&gt;and &lt;/I&gt;our sorrow. I believe we are meant to come together in support, in moving forward. Folk at BB recognise this truth wholeheartedly&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;If we cannot function effectively then 3 &lt;I&gt;individual &lt;/I&gt;facets should be explored. When we refer to our self as 'I' we should remember that we are not one single simple entity. Physical dis-ease, mental dis-ease and energetic dis-ease will present specific sets of symptoms. Any one of these 3 aspects of us (or even all of them at once) can express dis-ease in unique ways. The mental dis-ease part can relate to thought networks as well as chemical imbalances. There's a network up there in that thing in our skull for everything we have learned in life, from tying our shoelaces to feeling self-hatred. Some networks need attention. The chemistry thing...the levels of dopamine and serotonin in our brain will go toward determining how motivated and happy we are. Thoughts and chemistry &lt;I&gt;are &lt;/I&gt;interactive&lt;/LI&gt;
	&lt;LI&gt;Each relationship we have in life is reflected in how &lt;I&gt;we relate&lt;/I&gt;. You relate to your therapist as someone who cares, someone who listens, someone who helps you come to know yourself and the world better. I believe these are the traits of someone we would regard as a friend. Your view is definitely not pathetic, it makes perfect sense&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Take care JM&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 18:35:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370613#M16255</guid>
      <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-01T18:35:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intesnse self loathing and depression.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370614#M16256</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Jackson,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I had that problem too and it took me a while to get over it so, it will take you a while to as well. Take a look in the mirror and tell yourself that you are amazing. Try to look at the positives. It takes sixty days to form a habit so try 2 times a day and you should see the difference. Also, try and open yourself up to the world and find people with similar interests as you or similar music taste. I am not a professional and just a teenager but I found that 7 cups helped. I could talk with a person that understood what it feels like and they were just really helpful and free.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 23:02:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/young-people/intesnse-self-loathing-and-depression/m-p/370614#M16256</guid>
      <dc:creator>Indigoangel178</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-01T23:02:05Z</dc:date>
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